We Were Not Caught Off Guard

If you have been here for a few months, then you know that this is what we have been waiting for.  Lets review.

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GDX –  Way back in August I started to ready us for a deeper pull back than many at that time would think is likely. You may recall that I kept saying that a solid target was $22-$24 and I said to look for that steep drop at the end of September or beginning of October.

This chart from Aug 22 is an example of me preparing us for a coming buying opportunity. I expected a bounce first, then a steep drop.

GDX 8-22b

My Weekly chart showed GDX broke the weekly uptrend line. A wkly trend line break for an 8 month trend is ‘ugly’, and indicates that a yearly cycle low is coming.  That magenta box became the likely target after that bounce at $22-$24 shown  in Sept/ Oct.   We would monitor things a little closer when we got there.  

GDX 8-27 wkly

We are there, time to monitor things a bit more closely. 🙂

 

Lets just review some thoughts

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GOLD CHART FROM SEPT 16 –  Target $1250 possible?  Tuesday Gold hit $1269.

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GOLD –  First I want to show this. Yes,we had a huge 1 day drop Tuesday.  It looks as though Gold is about to drop off a cliff, and many have possibly been emboldened to “go short the break down”.  I do not recommend that, this can be capitulation / panic type exhaustion selling.  That 1 day drop does not always mean that we have entered a waterfall sell off where the next few days are deep sell offs, it can quickly lead to exhaustion of sellers.  Look at this chart for example.  In this bull market many 1 day slams had reversals in a day or two.  The selling into the May ICL wasn’t even a good short after the 1 day slam.  The selling slowed up and lasted 4 more days of bottoming action.

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The timing on this Mid September chart was pretty good.   This showed the early October slam that we got Tuesday.  Now what do we look for?

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GDX–  This chart shows that we are on day 22,  and that is good enough for an ICL in a bull market.  That is also capitulation type panic selling, it can lead to lows quickly.  I am pointing out the May ICL though, to show how price didn’t immediately take off higher after the strong drop. 5 days later the lows were in, so patience may be needed to wait for a reversal and a break higher before buying. It is safer to wait for the reversal  ( Swing low) and confirmation of the turn.

SIDENOTE:   I am always asked about buying a ‘starter position’ during these sell offs.  “Should I just buy on the way down now?”  In a bull market, buying here will be recovered soon and yes, these dips should recover soon.   The problem is that many do not enjoy watching the draw down, it actually makes them sick to see that they could have bought the same stock lower.   Lets Look at the May ICL box. If you bought 4 days before the lows at the green arrow, 2 months later price was much higher, but could you stomach the 4 or 5 days after the buy?  That is 1 week of trading.

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GDX– This weekly chart just shows the Fib retracements, and $22 is still a reasonable target area, it could dip to $21.   With that in mind, most of us here have a ‘core position’ from the spring.  If I DID NOT own any miners, I personally would nibble a bit during this sell off,  knowing that the bull market can correct an early entry. Let me show a couple of different types of lows on the next chart.

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GDX – 2 different types of lows shown here, maybe we get one of these now.

1. Red Arrow in May – High volume slam like yesterday and then dances around for a couple of days into a sightly new low ( not a lot lower). 

2. Blue Circles in July – Slam down July 19th, 2 neutral days, then a final slam (Not a lot lower). I drew this type in for us this week. This would bottom on the Friday jobs report.  That is not a prediction, just an idea so that you can visualize possible lows.

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 I own TRX as part of one of my core holdings, and if I was in front of the screen today, I may have added on this dip to possible support and divergence. I will be watching it and a few others to see how they act on Wednesday.

TRX, NAK, and a few others did put in reversals, but they may or may not hold. They could bounce and drop again and be accumulated while Gold bottoms.

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SO we have started possible capitulation type selling on day 22, we can see a low form at anytime.  I have mentioned that this sell off was coming for the last 2 months, so that when it gets here, we will not be afraid to look for entries. Further patients may pay off, but I think that we are close to bottoming.  A swing low is when you get a low price point and then that candles highest point is taken out.  This is an example of what a swing looks like  ( This one was a weekly swing).

You look for the price of the candle with the lowest price, to have its highs taken out.  

 

GOLD SWING 2

 

We are within the timing for a swing low to present itself, so we will be looking for a SWING LOW to form in the days ahead. You do not need to worry if you miss THE EXACT LOWS, once an ICL is in place, they tend to run higher for 3 months.  They also can meander around at the bottom, and individual stocks all act differently.   I will point out some good low risk set ups in the future reports.   At each ICL, we have plenty of time to enter low risk set ups in Miners. 

If your core is sore, that is understandable during an ICL sell off, but in a bull market you should see higher prices in the coming weeks to ease the pain.  The CORE is the Buy & Hold method that pays off nicely when we get surprises to the upside and are riding an uptrend, but can be difficult to ride out during corrections. We should see much higher prices going into the end of 2016.   🙂

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~ALEX

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P.S.   Those that use the  comments /chat section know that I am usually there regularly daily.  This week I was asked to do some house sitting / pet sitting and my laptop usually automatically connects to the wifi there. This week, even with the password, my laptop states that it cannot connect to that network.   I dont know if a security update with windows 10 or my antivirus is preventing it, but I ran the wifi trouble shooter and tried several different things to manually connect  – all to no avail.   Yesterday I only had my phone to watch the sell off and for those of you working away from your screen-   OH MAN DO I FEEL YOUR PAIN.  I LOVE watching the markets during these times, so I am going to try to drive back to my place by 9:30 Eastern and watch the action today from home for a few hours.

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If anyone has any additional advice on how I might try to override this problem, I’m open to suggestions.  Like I said, my laptop used to connect to this wifi set up this past spring, today it refuses.  I tried the password on my phone and it did connect.  🙂 You can write alex@bigleaguefinance.com or comment here. Thanks!  ( Yes, I may try a starbucks wifi for Thursday or Friday if I cannot fix it to see if the laptop will connect there, but today I’m coming home).

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      • R Byram
        R Byram says:

        I travel a lot and have found the following solutions – caveat, I try to never go into my trading account through any other wifi connection than my own:
        a) maybe try a complete reboot – shut down wifi on your laptop. then reboot, it should work.
        b) go to settings on your phone and turn on the hotspot. On your laptop click on the wifi signal icon on the top right and click on the Alex Iphone when it show us. This seems to use data a bit faster than normal.
        c) Buy a Hot Spot – you can get them at a wallmart phone store or at AT&T etc. Cost about $100 for 5 gig and it will last three months.

        I am using the personal hot spot on my phone right now, which is tied back in to my Canadian Rogers account – I’m a data use pig but it is sure nice to stay connected almost anywhere.

        • chartfreak1
          chartfreak1 says:

          Yes, Thx – I did that on vacation one time when I left the country, but I just got caught off line yesterday and the thing bugging me is that I was using the very same llaptop that connected last spring, and my phone did connnect- so I knew it should connect.

          The day before (Monday) I didnt really care and tried to just do some other things off line while I was there. Yesterday I saw that sell off and looked at GORO/ JNUG, NUGT, ( And GOLD / SILVER) on my phone and thought ” NOOOOOOOOOOOOO,,,,I need to see this!”

          I do feel for those working all day and away from the screen when days like that appear.

    • Bill
      Bill says:

      Alex, try deleting the WiFi that you are trying to connect to, then reaquire it and reenter the password.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Thx – I would have, but I dont carry one with me ( Haven’t used one in prob 10 yrs 🙂 And I was about 1/2 hr from a Staples or Wal Mart. Im sure I have one in that “endless cables, old routers,and connectors” dufflebag in the closet – lol
      I will bring one next time .

  1. Johnny
    Johnny says:

    Well I got to read the report then I lost the database connection. Disqus seems to work ok. Good luck on getting back up and running (assuming its not just my internet). Great report Alex. Its a confidence builder. Thank you!

  2. Bill
    Bill says:

    *Observation only* Gold seems to be holding the 61.8% retracement from the May lows to the July highs. IMHO!

  3. deshy
    deshy says:

    Alex, Any thoughts on possibility that we’ll have another LT cycle? If we are in the yearly cycle decline it seems a tad early and there seems to be ‘a lot’ of traders lining up for an Oct buy–mainly cyclists. Seems the greatest pain now that some are shorting is quick up to bring the bulls on board and shake the bears and then another down to lose the bulls and embolden the bears before up again in Nov. 2016 (all still within the weekly and yearly cycle timing band) i.e. another 4 weeks of bucking bronco to throw everyone off. Of course, I’m sure I’m over thinking this so I’ll be late either way as usual.:-)

  4. nancytheartist
    nancytheartist says:

    Alex, I had weird things with my connections all day yesterday…could it be because the overseeing of the internet was just turned over to some international group? I personally think that was really dumb to do considering all the hacking and fraud already…but I don’t believe our current leaders act wisely generally. Who is watching these new watchers?
    PS thanks for being so spot on with your ICL call…wish I could stay and take advantage but I am boarding up my house and running to the other side of the state for a few days to avoid Cat 4 Matthew. Probably won’t be able to trade much for now. May set up a few buy orders and see if the hit.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      That is rather ugly.

      Interestingly, NG is one of the ones that bottomed way ahead of the rest. It actually bottomed in 2013 and today it is exactly at the 61.8% of that entire 3 year run higher.

      • R Byram
        R Byram says:

        I had Jone on my screen for Monday morning – and hesitated, but still picked up a 1/2 position at the start of the week. It has a really good story to tell.

        • chartfreak1
          chartfreak1 says:

          I posted that weekly chart in yesterdays report and it just broke out from that 6 month consolidation that I was pointing out. That bodes well for the long term.

          • R Byram
            R Byram says:

            I’m starting to understand that you “see” the fundamental story in the chart. I’ve read a long and juicy report on Jones, but you seem to be able to see these stories just by looking at the charts

          • chartfreak1
            chartfreak1 says:

            In the books published by William O’Neil – that is his theory. That when a company is healthy, it will have healthy chart patterns based on insiders accumulating, funds with buying interest, etc. THEN when smart money is already in and it has been based out & is already running higher- others read the ‘news’ in the quarterly reports, headlines, etc. after the run up has begun.

            Same with a sell off. Most try to apply the news to a sell off that was due anyway

  5. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    Some miners do bottom ahead of others in these sell offs. TRX may have bottomed yesterday.
    That doesn’t mean that those lows cant be tested if Gold isn’t done selling off, but I think that TRX reversal candle yesterday was a good sign in the heat of the moment.

    And I ran through the comments yesterday, Crytstal liked it too 🙂

  6. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    AREX dropped lightly to the 10sma over the last couple of days

    ERF still looks very good

    BAS and CIE coming out of lows and flagging. ENERGY still looks pretty good while we wait for the lows in Precious Metals.

    REN

  7. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    This drop in GDX is exactly what I was hoping for so far. You want to see a slightly lower low, and the a rise above todays candle tomorrow. That would be a swing low and then you just need follow through.

    And as GOLD & MINERS sell off… I’ll watch for TRX to remain green : )

  8. Thomas Yarbrough
    Thomas Yarbrough says:

    Alex I babysit a 2 year old all day so I rarely can get to a screen except for my phone and it really hurts the quality of my trading and comments so I feel your pain

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      You need to rent a small puppy to help with the babysitting – that’ll keep a 2 yr olds attention for hours!

      Kidding, especially if it’s your kid, you dont want to miss out on those cute moments and bonding times with your kid- they do not stay babies for long!

  9. Mark Giangreco
    Mark Giangreco says:

    Hi Alex! I just noticed that huge gap on GDX at around 23 is all but filled but that same gap in GDXJ has another 10-12% to go. You think it fills just like GDX did? Seems the rate of descent appears to be moving approximately 2x as fast in GDXJ as it is in GDX suggesting that gap gets filled in GDXJ while the descent tappers off soon in GDX. Thank you

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      That is a tough question, because in 2008 there were 3 gaps that were left open until recently.

      There really is no way of knowing , and since there is enough time left in a daily cycle to drop & fill, we could see GDXJ fill the gap. Right now I am thinking that we may be putting a slightly lower low in, below yesterday. A rise above todays high tomorrow would give us a swing and that may be all we need.

      SO I see what you’re looking at ( even the difference in where the 200sma is seems relevant) , but I do not think GDXJ will keep dropping if GDX is finished. Unless GDX goes sideways whiile the juniors drop. Still seems less likely.

  10. Ken
    Ken says:

    Alex,
    I am still struggling with the cylce count in PM’s. Is it too early for an ICL assuming June 1 was the last ICL?

  11. nancytheartist
    nancytheartist says:

    Bye all! Heading away from Vero to the opposite side of FL to ride out the storm. Happy trading!

  12. R Byram
    R Byram says:

    if any Canadian oil traders are interested – RRX is a great company and has 4x volume so far today coming out of a long consolidation

  13. R Byram
    R Byram says:

    Any visions in your crystal ball for this oil cycle Alex? If I am counting correctly, PSCE says that it is day 15 – if I am going to harvest some profit is it time, or foolish to loose my cushion now?

    • Johnny
      Johnny says:

      Good morning Alex! IAG has decent average volume and is down around 60% from its August highs.. What do you think about the IAG chart? Thank you!

        • Glmus
          Glmus says:

          As a fan of EWT, but certainly not an expert, your count looks great. Perhaps we can look for your iv to be a flat since your ii is a zigzag? Now that would be cool if so. Also, your chart looks like an hourly, so perhaps iv can take a couple of days, then v to finish it off. I assume that your first v is an ‘a’ also. The a wave is about 6 points, thus that suggests that the c wave ‘could’ be equal, thus getting us down to 22. That would be very cool. Feel free to correct me

          • Glmus
            Glmus says:

            A 50% fib retracement comes in at 22.28! This gives us three ways to look for a bottom between 22 and 22.5. Very cool. Of course, as Alex correctly stated, all the gold stocks do not bottom at the same time. Thus, based on Son’s count, I will begin to look for some bottoms in a week or so. Thanks for your input.

          • SonOfGud
            SonOfGud says:

            don’t count on my counts! .. entertainment only, remember? 🙂
            sometimes the waves arent obvious and can be ‘hidden’ .. so it could shoot straight up thru the trendline i drew, which is why i’ll buy the trendline breaks rather than wait for any counts i might have got wrong

          • SonOfGud
            SonOfGud says:

            im even looking at that little blip wave at the end , could be the C.v.. cuz it gives the divergence on the green uptrend line.
            ignoring cycle timing for the mo, which might give conflicting info .. that could be all you get now for the C wave.

          • Chris
            Chris says:

            All these aspects coming together as well as the potential timing certainly gives us a ‘juicy’ target area to watch closely now for signs of lows forming. 🙂

      • Chris
        Chris says:

        I definitely am Bill. I’ve added a bit more to silver bullion itself as part of my long term core holdings but so far am holding fire on adding to the actual miners. With most if not all still below falling 10 day ema’s they are still in strong short term downtrends as far as I’m concerned and I want to see a bit of evidence of bottoming before I start loading up. I won’t cream the lows especially if there are sharp ‘V’ type reversals, which I’m personally not expecting but I’ll be happy to get somewhere close to the lows and potentially after they have turned. At least that’s the theory and my game plan!! 🙂

        • Bill
          Bill says:

          I think its going to be tricky. I expected a gap down this morning, didn’t get it. Instead we get the cross. My fear is we go up the next two days, draws me in and then a slam down lower low. We’ll see.

          • Chris
            Chris says:

            I’m having exactly the same thoughts Bill, that this may well be tricky and have settled in my own mind to remain patient, accept I won’t cream the bottom and not jump all over the first hint of a turn but wait for a bit of developing evidence. But that’s just me and my very conservative style. I’m also intending to layer in in two or three tranches as this is long term investment capital for me and not looking for shorter term trades, which also has a big influence on my approach. But as you well know, no one style is right and it’s whatever suits each of us and our own personalities. And mine’s a constant ‘work in progress’!! 😉

          • Cason
            Cason says:

            Too convenient right? Slams down, bounces around a bit, ends up right on the 200-day on the nose and then we scream higher? If it were that easy…

          • Cason
            Cason says:

            I was expecting the gap up. But was able to use the afternoon weakness to get my latest tranche of EXK. So, I’m continuing to add to ‘core’ holdings but haven’t touched options or NUGT/JNUG so any ‘baby miners’ under $1, etc. Not yet. Will. May even start longer date options Thurs ahead of the Jobs. Just in case…

          • Chris
            Chris says:

            I use an online facility called BullionVault (not sure if you can access that from the US?) and it is stored in professional (not bank!) vaults. And we also have a company on the island which only exists here but through whom I can take physical delivery as well. That probably isn’t a lot of use to you though!!

    • Cason
      Cason says:

      Yeah, I said last night that I was expecting a bear flag today. That’s still what I’m seeing. I’m in the ‘short ICL’ camp so hoping this plays out shortly. Some thought that the last slam into the early Sep DCL was “ICL-worthy” on the miner weakness. Anyway, I’d like to hit GDX 22, bounce and call it a day!

    • SonOfGud
      SonOfGud says:

      latter half of 2015 looks like only 4 & half months?.. maybe get another shorty like you suggest

    • Chris
      Chris says:

      What about a price low in the next week or so, a good bounce and then a severe back-test (even slight price undercut?) another month or so down the road. Splitting hairs whether this proves to be an early ICL now or actual ICL in another months or so’s time (i.e. marginal difference in price between low now and again in a month or so’s time). Just a thought of a possible scenario that might make you more comfortable with the weeks involved. As we well know and Alex has pointed out mutiple times some bottoms are a process rather than ‘V’ shaped even though that’s what many like! Just a thought though and most definitely not a prediction!! 😉

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