The Hardest Part
According to Tom Petty, “The waiting is the hardest part”. I do believe he’s right, but at times it is the safest thing to do. For example, did you see the futures yesterday in the morning? The Dow was set to open up hundreds of points higher and in fact, most of the day the Dow was up 300+ points. We were putting in a very nice bounce and suddenly going into the close the Dow sold off and closed down 2o4 points. The S&P and NASDAQ did the same thing. Lets take a look.
DJIA – Both Monday and Tuesday if traders entered the markets during the rally, they were stopped out or seeing red by the close. Today the Futures are up big again.
The markets are very oversold. I expect a bounce up to the major moving averages, but that may actually be a shorting opportunity. Now If you look at the Dow this way, you can see that several more days like we just saw and you could make the case for the formation of a bear flag, wearing off oversold conditions.
SPX– The SPX was the same story. Futures were up strongly in the morning, people were jumping in to catch the “Snap back rally”, and then it sold off for a second day in a row. The S&P 500 range was 1948 to the close of 1867 . 81 points!
Trading is fast and furious and until these markets settle down a bit, the waiting may be the best part for most. Patience.
USD – As expected, we are getting our bounce in the dollar, which will likely bring about our drop in Gold. I do not expect this to be a strong , long lasting rally.
WTIC– speaking of waiting! Oil sold off very hard from $100+ to $43.58. After a nice rally, it resumed its sell off. $33.55 is an area of interest, and there is a lot of support in that area from 200-2004 as seen here.
Is oil reversing here? Again, maybe waiting is the hardest part, but to be safe, wait for OIL to close over the 10sma before taking a long position. I personally know some that bought the reversal at the end of July . Not honoring or using stops, they are hurting for now. That was a false reversal.
GOLD, SILVER, & MINERS
GOLD – Quick review. As of Friday we hit resistance and the dollar was bottoming. Expect selling to start.
GOLD reversal Monday , but we got a higher high, so we have a high on day 21 cycle-wise. This is Bullish and we expect a higher high after this correction. 3 basic targets.
Gold as of Tuesdays close. I want to see a break of the 10sma and a trend line break. This is what is expected at a Daily Cycle low (DCL). Then we look for a reversal higher and a swing low recovering that 10sma.
Gold here is showing were some support to the left is possible.
In yesterdays report, I went over miners pretty extensively. If you are new here, please read over some of the past reports when you have time to get a better idea of what we are looking at and expecting going forward.
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At times, Miners will have a steady short covering rally coming up out of their lows. There is more of a move sideways move as they seek out there daily cycle low. If you sell out at that time, it can be impossible to find another good entry, so sometimes I try to hold my positions from the ICL (Deep lows at the bottom) to the top of the 2nd daily cycle. This occurred in May 2014. Notice that if you sold your positions, it would have been very hard to re-enter.
Other times, The pullback can feel harsh, especially if you are leveraged. Miners can pullback 50% , 61.8% or more, even returning all the way back to their lows. The 2nd daily cycle is usually a strong rally and makes up for these pullbacks, but it is very hard to mentally accept that miners are doing this with Gold holding up.
We are experiencing a rather quick sharp drop off now in Miners. 🙁
As pointed out in yesterdays report, we have seen this before, even at the very meaningful lows of 2008. After the first daily cycles rally, price dipped down twice toward the lows before moving up higher.
The big question is, “Will miners keep selling off with Gold seeking its DCL, maybe even doing a stop run to new lows? Or will miners start bottoming?” Time will tell.
Sidenote : There is one problem with ‘waiting’ in certain situations.
I have had people email me that they dont dare to buy when I recommend it at the ICL lows. Understandable. They have their own systems that tell them when it is ‘safe’. These systems may even wait for price to get above the 50sma. Also there are some that bought this all the way down at the recommendation of other letter writers. What if you bought miners only after they got above their 50sma and other signals fired off, and you are still holding on? That could be painful. Buying at the lows, rallying higher, and holding back down to the lows is painful in its own way. Buying above the 50sma was buying at the highs. Riding that down is not good. What to do?
If this plays out as expected, we should be rallying back to new highs, so your positions should be in the green in a week or so. In the future, if you’re buying late in the daily cycle, stops are your safety net. Yes, I had mentioned riding out the entire first & second daily cycle as a profitable trade, but that is best when buying at the lows and lightening up on leverage 1/2 way through the cycle. It doesn’t always work out well if you mix your buy points at higher levels ( Above the 50sma) and do not use stops. In that scenario, you need to honor stops because as we’ve seen, these sell offs into a dcl can be deeper than expected. Remember that protecting funds is important and you can always get back in, there is always another trade. I buy right around the lows, so riding it back down is breaking even or giving up gains. My stop is below my buy points. That is how they should be.
SO we are waiting for a DCL in precious metals, and Energy is really starting to look like it is going to offer some nice trades too. Some of the energy stocks are bouncing here and there , and they are doing it at 15-25% pops. I saw 25% 1 day pops in WG, GDP, and quite a few others, but there was no follow through. They sold off shortly after, so Waiting is a good idea there too. SDRL had positive earnings release – watch that today and see if it POPS. I will be looking for good set ups in both Metals and Energy in the upcoming days. For now- I am trying to be patient as Gold looks to be seeking out its daily cycle low. Gold & Silver are selling off pretty good here this morning, Silver has broken down to fresh new lows. We’ll have to see if Miners can start finding a bottom early or will they just keep dropping down with the Metals.


















Stopped out of NUGT. Oh well, we gave it a shot.
Another great report Alex and thanks too for the teaching points. Excellent reminders at worst and additional knowledge at best. Thanks again. 🙂
Here we go. It’s that time of the day again and another ‘smack’ for silver!! 🙁 Has just hit aTL connecting March and July lows though, around $1410 now. Might that provide support!?
Love your consistent clear thinking, Alex! Here’s a weekly view of silver – sitting on several support levels equals a good place to go long with tight stops? I learned years ago to treat silver like fire, so I don’t know for myself… http://tos.mx/f1GRT9
(click on link then click on chart if you care to peek)
Nice ending wedge Cal!!? That would be nice! 🙂
GDX chart = BRUTAL
2 weeks of gains gone in 4 days
Where do we see a bottom??
You dont see it until it arrives. A swing (reversal) is the start
Just broke the lows. I don’t feel well.
yeah…im pretty mizzy (miserable) about that myself…ugggggh … @*&^%$#!!
Well then dont look at JDST, that’ll add to the mizzies 😉
u do no u cant tell a squirrel not 2 look ..;)
Yes, quite nasty. One thing should be certain, this should keep people from getting too bullish on miners for a while!
And afraid to buy until the rally takes hold
Where is the ‘Dislike’ button?
GDX breaking to new lows (Possible Stop run). 100+% pullback , Still a pretty ridiculous move with Gold only at a 50% pullback.
Certainly running the stops on silver!! 🙁
yeah, whats that price go back to…2009?
August 2009 according to my charts!! 🙁
I just thought yesterday was a spanking. My first purchases aren’t really looking all that bad – it’s what I added on Friday that are looking sad. The bigger picture is still intact as far as I can tell. Just increased my GDXJ by a third
Pretty nice reversals (And a stop run on GDX) as I write…
let me add that it has to hold though. We did this in GDX / GDXJ Monday as seen on a 5 minute 3 day chart – but it doesnt show on the daily because it sold off again
I added just a bit after that perk up in GDX to about 13.10. Looking good so far and if we go back down under 13, I’m out.
Good plan for a trader in front of the screen.
Try the reversal , but honor the stops.
Or scalp it on the way up and keep scalping until the picture is clearer 🙂
dipped my toes in GDXJ at 18.68
im stopped out at 18.34
some good divergences on the hourly
FWIW:
If the low in GDX holds at 12.96 (not much of a stop run) for a few days and we get a daily swing buy in both Gold and Miners then maybe ……… that will be the low. My stop then will be below 12.91.
I agree with the “Not much of a stop run”.
Only 5 cents below and I would have expected to see a whole lot of volume at that point with shares being dumped and repurchased.
Agree……something like Silver this morning ay?
Yeah, that was believable 🙂
soooo … what does that mean? in UHO of course…
people r holding?
orrr
…reverse split and much lower?
There is a split coming for the 3x etfs ( I cant remember the date), but IMHO 🙂
That drop below the lows on GDX just didn’t seem like a real ‘stop run’ , because usually when the lows are broken, stops are triggered and buying of those positions takes place, so volume increases. If I look at volume on 5 minute chart…it was average or normal.
I’ll guess: Maybe price didnt drop enough for people to get stopped out? It only dropped 5 cents below lows on GDX. We could go down there again a bit lower this time & really run the stops?
yes…sorry – i was looking at the NUGT chart…:-/
………..silly me for thinking you were all up in my head with me… ;o)
A, how tight would you set a stop on GDXJ?
im only 1cent below the low of 18.35… maybe i should give a bit more wiggle room
Did you enter today , or are you saying your stop is from an early Aug entry?
I guess that doesnt matter, but what I am thinking is…what was the plan when entered? If it was today, you entered thinking this may be the lows and you dont want to risk more than that. I’d agree with that. If this is a bounce and GDXJ tries to break the lows the way GDX did, its got a ways to go. I’d keep the stop semi tight.
Gold is on day 23. We can get a DCL here….or day 29, so tight stop until we get a swing and a break over the 10sma for me.
yes i entered today.
hoping that the re-drop at the moment is a right shoulder pullback, to make the higher low for the swing
Agree……unfortunately
I beileve the split date is Sept. 10th
Another big volume day. GDX already at 25 NEM over 6m. I think the boys ran the stops and are buying. Starting to see a little green. Needs to be all green to get out of this muck.
yes…annnd according to “Ira” gold needs to close green today or it loses it’s ’embedded’ reading… if anyone follows that…
What reading is he discussing as imbedded…stochastics? RSI?
And I would need to know what setting to back-test it and see if it really matters
slow stoch…default settngs. .i believe it was his mid day metal report… {yesterday} i can get link if u care…??
Thats fine… I just wanted to look back at Gold under similar circumstances
If you look at Jan – FEB 2014…Gold lost the embedded slow stoch and it was just a sideways consolidation . The stochastic only dropped to the 50% area and then the 2nd leg up started, so if we lose the embedded, I’m not going to lose sleep over just that.
ok…. no biggie… i wasnt sure it meant that much myself…but he was all 8675309 about it….;o)
HA!
LOL
hmmmm … could it be?
https://www.tradingview.com/x/ddb52C95/
Let it Hold Maria Let it Hold !
HERE IT COMES – HERE IT COMES
Lets get a break to new lows, the real stop run, and some kind of divergence on the 15 minute charts .
uhh.. i think ur just a little bit too excited about MTJ being ‘starved’ for green snacks…..
I bought GDX today, let’s hope.
for the dow had a top last week…expected the top on 19/20 actually came in on 17th….looking for reasons to get long for a bottom due 8-28 to 8-31……then fake out rally into mid month 9-11 to 9-14…..we’ll see.
Might be a plan if the gold stocks recover
Dow rally stuck this time. I imagine we at least ride this up to 200 days then we’ll see.
Bill can you remember this?
I think you are spot on!
Take a look: http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/2429/5751/original.jpg
sweetness… right on Bill.
“…. go Bill .. go Bill .. it’s your birthday hava cupcake … ”
:oD
GDXJ will NOT hit $18. I will not allow it 🙂 (refresh)
Nice divergence so far anyway
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hmm.. studying that macd & chart reminds me of waves in the ocean…. makes me wanna take a nice cooool and refreshing ‘dip’ …. …………………………. ;o)
ok we need Bill to post his batwings daily now …
Where is Bill? Havent heard from him all day
I’d like to forget. 😛
GDX…well we could just get a double bottom with rsi divergence in place. I know we are supposed to get capitulation volume and I am a complete novice but is it possible most sellers have already sold given the bearishness that was already in place before this drop?
yeah maybe most sellers now are those that entered just a bit higher up… like me dammit
The volumes are very high today – so maybe that means something.
Hi Alan,
Refresh for a chart showing why I would’ve expected “Stops” below the lows and the amt of buyers that could be in that area.
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Anything is possible, maybe no one is selling & stops are lower. Price may run down there and try stop run again.
Not quite oversold yet : (
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Oh ok I see now exactly what you mean. Thanks!
I essentially had the same comment. We had the capitulation low with volume a month ago. Those guys are gone already. We only have 1 month of ‘buying’ (much was probably just short covering) so I wouldn’t expect that many had actually bought and needed to sell. Traders (versus investors likely dumped as we headed down not necessarily waiting for stop run- I sold for example). My broker is showing 97M on GDX now at end of day so not too paltry total day volume.
Of course the other possibility is that they’re largely in “strong hands” and that a retest of the lows on little volume shows that selling has dried up. It’s something that often happens in the broad stock market. I don’t know. Now that I’ve said that get ready for the sell off. 🙂
yeah…what HE said… :oD
Maybe the dollar has to touch its 10 DMA before resuming downtrend. Question is, how much, if any, damage is done to gold/miners in the meantime.
Agree Troy.
The strength of the USD is very concerning to me.
A lot!
Interesting that big vol (1.4 mil in min) came at 12.98 and that candle ticked up, so buying pressure there. And no follow thru once again to the downside after breaking 13 again.
Another tease? Or no selling pressure. The question of the day. 🙂
My expectation is that if market bounces dollar will go with the market and gold will dip more. GOLD broke trendline and through resistance at 1130-40 area. We could see new lows on GDX if that happens.
Yep, exactly what I had posted. However, GDX got to my lower target much faster than anticipated so what happens now while the market bounce continues? We set a new low today in GDX, absolute lifetime low on NUGT by a fairly wide margin.
Alex, wanted to thank you for your continuous level-headed analysis on gold/miners. I have a tendency to be a bit emotional (clearly evident by some posts!) in my trading. So, I appreciate you guys putting up with that.
I was a bit early to the ICL party and got worn out what for leg #1 to take its sweet little time at the lows and get going. That wore me down a bit, but I pretty much nailed the exit on DCL1 top – I was a little early on GLD, a little late on NUGT, but got the GDX (call options) top within pennies. I am absolutely shocked and appalled that this came ALL the way back down and did it with such force. However, the thorough analysis and possibilities kept me safe- since I knew this was always a chance I wasn’t interested in giving it back. I kept my non-leveraged shares (oops!!); AUY was lost in a stop, FSM is a dumpster fire still burning in my account.
I sold out of DUST overnight trade today to grab more GDX. Will we run up now or just roll over and quit? Hard to know, but used options, kept total premium low enough if it goes worthless then so be it. I’ll need to see a perk up before hitting NUGT or JNUG. Let’s see what tomorrow brings. So, I am totally bummed, but at least I didn’t lose my shirt in the ride back down!