The Hardest Part

According to Tom Petty,  “The waiting is the hardest part”.   I do believe he’s right, but at times it is the safest thing to do.  For example, did you see the futures yesterday in the morning? The Dow was set to open up hundreds of points higher and in fact, most of the day the Dow was up 300+ points. We were putting in a very nice bounce and suddenly going into the close the Dow sold off and closed down 2o4 points.  The S&P and NASDAQ did the same thing.  Lets take a look.

DJIA – Both Monday and Tuesday if traders entered the markets during the rally, they were stopped out or seeing red by the close.  Today the Futures are up big again. 

DJIA 8-25 2

 The markets are very oversold.  I expect a bounce up to the major moving averages, but that may actually be a shorting opportunity. Now If you look at the Dow this way, you can see that several  more days like we just saw and you could make the case for the formation of a bear flag, wearing off oversold conditions.

DJIA 8-25

SPX–  The SPX was the same story. Futures were up strongly in the morning, people were jumping in to catch the “Snap back rally”,  and then it sold off for a second day in a row.  The S&P 500 range was 1948 to the close of 1867 . 81 points!

SPX 8-25

Trading is fast and furious and  until these markets settle down a bit,  the waiting may be the best part for most.  Patience.

USD – As expected, we are getting our bounce in the dollar, which will likely bring about our drop in Gold. I do not expect this to be a strong , long lasting rally.

USD 8-25

 

WTIC– speaking of waiting! Oil sold off very hard from $100+ to $43.58. After a nice rally, it resumed its sell off. $33.55 is an area of interest, and there is a lot of support in that area from 200-2004 as seen here.

WTIC 8-24

  Is oil reversing here?  Again, maybe waiting is the hardest part,  but to be safe, wait for OIL to close over the 10sma before taking a long position. I personally know some that bought the reversal at the end of July .  Not honoring or using stops, they are hurting for now. That was a false reversal.

WTIC 8-25

 

 GOLD, SILVER, & MINERS

GOLD – Quick review. As of Friday we hit resistance and the dollar was bottoming. Expect selling to start.

GOLD 8-21 & GDX

GOLD reversal Monday , but we got a higher high, so we have a high on day 21 cycle-wise. This is Bullish and we expect a higher high after this correction. 3 basic targets.

GOLD SUPPORT

Gold as of Tuesdays close.  I want to see a break of the 10sma and a trend line break. This is what is expected at a Daily Cycle low  (DCL). Then we look for a reversal higher and a swing low recovering that 10sma.

GOLD 8-25

Gold here is showing were some support to the left is possible.

GOLD 8-25

 

In yesterdays report, I went over miners pretty extensively. If you are new here, please read over some of the past reports when you have time to get a better idea of what we are looking at and expecting going forward.

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At times, Miners will have a steady short covering rally coming up out of their lows. There is more of a move sideways move as they seek out there daily cycle low. If you sell out at that time, it can be impossible to find another good entry, so sometimes I try to hold my positions from the ICL  (Deep lows at the bottom) to the top of the 2nd daily cycle.  This occurred in May 2014.  Notice that if you sold your positions, it would have been very hard to re-enter. 

GDX MAY 2014

 

Other times, The pullback can feel harsh,  especially if you are leveraged.  Miners can pullback 50% , 61.8%  or more, even returning all the way back to their lows. The 2nd daily cycle is usually a strong rally and makes up for these pullbacks, but it is very hard to mentally accept that miners are doing this with Gold holding up.

  We are experiencing a rather quick sharp drop off now in Miners.  🙁

GDX 8-25

As pointed out in yesterdays report,  we have seen this before, even at the very meaningful lows of 2008. After the first daily cycles rally, price dipped down twice toward the lows before moving up higher.

GDX 2008

The big question is, “Will miners keep selling off with Gold seeking its DCL,  maybe even doing a stop run to new lows?  Or will miners start bottoming?” Time will tell.

 

Sidenote : There is one problem with ‘waiting’ in certain situations.  

I have had people email me that they dont dare to buy when I recommend it at the ICL lows. Understandable.   They have their own systems that tell them when it is ‘safe’.  These systems may even wait for price to get above the 50sma. Also there are some that bought this all the way down at the recommendation of other letter writers.  What if you bought miners only after they got above their 50sma and other signals fired off, and you are still holding on?  That could be painful.  Buying at the lows, rallying higher, and holding back down to the lows is painful in its own way.  Buying above the 50sma was buying at the highs. Riding that down is not good.  What to do?

If this plays out as expected,  we should be rallying back to new highs, so your positions should be in the green in a week or so.   In the future, if you’re buying late in the daily cycle, stops are your safety net.   Yes, I had mentioned riding out the entire first & second daily cycle as a profitable trade, but that is best when buying at the lows and lightening up on leverage 1/2 way through the cycle.   It doesn’t always work out well if you mix your buy points at higher levels ( Above the 50sma) and do not use stops.   In that scenario, you need to honor stops because as we’ve seen, these sell offs into a dcl can be deeper than expected.   Remember that protecting funds is important and you can always get back in, there is always another trade.  I buy right around the lows, so riding it back down is breaking even or giving up gains. My stop is below my buy points. That is how they should be.

 

SO we are waiting for a DCL in precious metals, and Energy is really starting to look like it is going to offer some nice trades too. Some of the energy stocks are bouncing here and there , and they are doing it at 15-25% pops.  I saw 25% 1 day pops  in WG, GDP, and quite a few others, but there was no follow through.  They sold off shortly after, so Waiting is a good idea there too.   SDRL had positive earnings release – watch that today and see if it POPS.   I will be looking for good set ups in both Metals and Energy in the upcoming days. For now- I am trying to be patient as Gold looks to be seeking out its daily cycle low.   Gold & Silver are selling off pretty good here this morning, Silver has broken down  to fresh new lows.  We’ll have to see if Miners can start finding a bottom early or will they just keep dropping down with the Metals.

 

~ALEX

73 replies
  1. Chris
    Chris says:

    Another great report Alex and thanks too for the teaching points. Excellent reminders at worst and additional knowledge at best. Thanks again. 🙂

  2. Chris
    Chris says:

    Here we go. It’s that time of the day again and another ‘smack’ for silver!! 🙁 Has just hit aTL connecting March and July lows though, around $1410 now. Might that provide support!?

  3. Cal Staggers
    Cal Staggers says:

    Love your consistent clear thinking, Alex! Here’s a weekly view of silver – sitting on several support levels equals a good place to go long with tight stops? I learned years ago to treat silver like fire, so I don’t know for myself… http://tos.mx/f1GRT9
    (click on link then click on chart if you care to peek)

  4. Cal Staggers
    Cal Staggers says:

    I just thought yesterday was a spanking. My first purchases aren’t really looking all that bad – it’s what I added on Friday that are looking sad. The bigger picture is still intact as far as I can tell. Just increased my GDXJ by a third

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Pretty nice reversals (And a stop run on GDX) as I write…

      let me add that it has to hold though. We did this in GDX / GDXJ Monday as seen on a 5 minute 3 day chart – but it doesnt show on the daily because it sold off again

  5. Onlooker from Troy
    Onlooker from Troy says:

    I added just a bit after that perk up in GDX to about 13.10. Looking good so far and if we go back down under 13, I’m out.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Good plan for a trader in front of the screen.

      Try the reversal , but honor the stops.

      Or scalp it on the way up and keep scalping until the picture is clearer 🙂

  6. Ken
    Ken says:

    FWIW:
    If the low in GDX holds at 12.96 (not much of a stop run) for a few days and we get a daily swing buy in both Gold and Miners then maybe ……… that will be the low. My stop then will be below 12.91.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      I agree with the “Not much of a stop run”.

      Only 5 cents below and I would have expected to see a whole lot of volume at that point with shares being dumped and repurchased.

      • Maria
        Maria says:

        soooo … what does that mean? in UHO of course…
        people r holding?
        orrr
        …reverse split and much lower?

        • chartfreak1
          chartfreak1 says:

          There is a split coming for the 3x etfs ( I cant remember the date), but IMHO 🙂

          That drop below the lows on GDX just didn’t seem like a real ‘stop run’ , because usually when the lows are broken, stops are triggered and buying of those positions takes place, so volume increases. If I look at volume on 5 minute chart…it was average or normal.

          I’ll guess: Maybe price didnt drop enough for people to get stopped out? It only dropped 5 cents below lows on GDX. We could go down there again a bit lower this time & really run the stops?

          • Maria
            Maria says:

            yes…sorry – i was looking at the NUGT chart…:-/
            ………..silly me for thinking you were all up in my head with me… ;o)

          • SonOfGud
            SonOfGud says:

            A, how tight would you set a stop on GDXJ?
            im only 1cent below the low of 18.35… maybe i should give a bit more wiggle room

          • chartfreak1
            chartfreak1 says:

            Did you enter today , or are you saying your stop is from an early Aug entry?

            I guess that doesnt matter, but what I am thinking is…what was the plan when entered? If it was today, you entered thinking this may be the lows and you dont want to risk more than that. I’d agree with that. If this is a bounce and GDXJ tries to break the lows the way GDX did, its got a ways to go. I’d keep the stop semi tight.

            Gold is on day 23. We can get a DCL here….or day 29, so tight stop until we get a swing and a break over the 10sma for me.

          • SonOfGud
            SonOfGud says:

            yes i entered today.
            hoping that the re-drop at the moment is a right shoulder pullback, to make the higher low for the swing

  7. Carlnetscouts
    Carlnetscouts says:

    Another big volume day. GDX already at 25 NEM over 6m. I think the boys ran the stops and are buying. Starting to see a little green. Needs to be all green to get out of this muck.

    • Maria
      Maria says:

      yes…annnd according to “Ira” gold needs to close green today or it loses it’s ’embedded’ reading… if anyone follows that…

        • Maria
          Maria says:

          slow stoch…default settngs. .i believe it was his mid day metal report… {yesterday} i can get link if u care…??

          • chartfreak1
            chartfreak1 says:

            Thats fine… I just wanted to look back at Gold under similar circumstances

            If you look at Jan – FEB 2014…Gold lost the embedded slow stoch and it was just a sideways consolidation . The stochastic only dropped to the 50% area and then the 2nd leg up started, so if we lose the embedded, I’m not going to lose sleep over just that.

          • Maria
            Maria says:

            ok…. no biggie… i wasnt sure it meant that much myself…but he was all 8675309 about it….;o)
            HA!

  8. shermo
    shermo says:

    for the dow had a top last week…expected the top on 19/20 actually came in on 17th….looking for reasons to get long for a bottom due 8-28 to 8-31……then fake out rally into mid month 9-11 to 9-14…..we’ll see.

  9. Alan
    Alan says:

    GDX…well we could just get a double bottom with rsi divergence in place. I know we are supposed to get capitulation volume and I am a complete novice but is it possible most sellers have already sold given the bearishness that was already in place before this drop?

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Hi Alan,

      Refresh for a chart showing why I would’ve expected “Stops” below the lows and the amt of buyers that could be in that area.
      .
      Anything is possible, maybe no one is selling & stops are lower. Price may run down there and try stop run again.
      Not quite oversold yet : (
      .

        • Cason
          Cason says:

          I essentially had the same comment. We had the capitulation low with volume a month ago. Those guys are gone already. We only have 1 month of ‘buying’ (much was probably just short covering) so I wouldn’t expect that many had actually bought and needed to sell. Traders (versus investors likely dumped as we headed down not necessarily waiting for stop run- I sold for example). My broker is showing 97M on GDX now at end of day so not too paltry total day volume.

      • Onlooker from Troy
        Onlooker from Troy says:

        Of course the other possibility is that they’re largely in “strong hands” and that a retest of the lows on little volume shows that selling has dried up. It’s something that often happens in the broad stock market. I don’t know. Now that I’ve said that get ready for the sell off. 🙂

  10. Onlooker from Troy
    Onlooker from Troy says:

    Maybe the dollar has to touch its 10 DMA before resuming downtrend. Question is, how much, if any, damage is done to gold/miners in the meantime.

  11. Onlooker from Troy
    Onlooker from Troy says:

    Interesting that big vol (1.4 mil in min) came at 12.98 and that candle ticked up, so buying pressure there. And no follow thru once again to the downside after breaking 13 again.

    Another tease? Or no selling pressure. The question of the day. 🙂

  12. Bostjan Berginc
    Bostjan Berginc says:

    My expectation is that if market bounces dollar will go with the market and gold will dip more. GOLD broke trendline and through resistance at 1130-40 area. We could see new lows on GDX if that happens.

    • Cason
      Cason says:

      Yep, exactly what I had posted. However, GDX got to my lower target much faster than anticipated so what happens now while the market bounce continues? We set a new low today in GDX, absolute lifetime low on NUGT by a fairly wide margin.

  13. Cason
    Cason says:

    Alex, wanted to thank you for your continuous level-headed analysis on gold/miners. I have a tendency to be a bit emotional (clearly evident by some posts!) in my trading. So, I appreciate you guys putting up with that.
    I was a bit early to the ICL party and got worn out what for leg #1 to take its sweet little time at the lows and get going. That wore me down a bit, but I pretty much nailed the exit on DCL1 top – I was a little early on GLD, a little late on NUGT, but got the GDX (call options) top within pennies. I am absolutely shocked and appalled that this came ALL the way back down and did it with such force. However, the thorough analysis and possibilities kept me safe- since I knew this was always a chance I wasn’t interested in giving it back. I kept my non-leveraged shares (oops!!); AUY was lost in a stop, FSM is a dumpster fire still burning in my account.

    I sold out of DUST overnight trade today to grab more GDX. Will we run up now or just roll over and quit? Hard to know, but used options, kept total premium low enough if it goes worthless then so be it. I’ll need to see a perk up before hitting NUGT or JNUG. Let’s see what tomorrow brings. So, I am totally bummed, but at least I didn’t lose my shirt in the ride back down!

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