POPS

Quick thoughts…

I wont have a report in the morning

Just a reminder that we have the JOBS report Friday,  so caution is always warranted.   I do tend to like what I am seeing today, so I just wanted to point a few things out.

 

GDX –  it could close above the 10sma today,  or it may sell off into the close.  Either way,  you must ask ,  “Do I want to buy before Jobs report?”  You must decide, some whip saw can still be ahead.  We’ll discuss a few things to help you decide. 

GDX 8-6

We’ve seen these POPS before, but it’s nice to see so many Miners jumping in.

Here are what a few individual Miners are looking like. I wanted to point something else out here too,  with PPP & GORO.

 

This was IAG this a.m., and now its up 14%.   BAA is up almost 20% today.

IAG

PPP – please notice in MARCH when PPP popped, the next day was down . So tomorrow could be down, no need to rush in. This may impact your decision on buying now or not.

PPP

 

GORO– please note that when GORO popped in MARCH, the next day was down. So dont feel that you are missing the move if you want to play it safe.

GORO

 

SO I have been saying until we are all blue in the face, that the set up is great!  Metals should rally nicely soon.  There is still time to be cautious since we have Friday data to contend with, or you MAY want to start a small position in one of the Miners reversing off of the lows today.

Reminder: In March many popped and dropped the next day before really starting to rally.

BLUE MAN

 

I am also looking at OIL,  as mentioned in this mornings report.  It is Squeezed at a double bottom and could surge & rally too.  It is HATED & FEARED in the MEDIA, but if you look at Many energy stocks ? They are up  ( See XLE) .

OIL 8-5 live

 

SO I will be looking into these areas further for the weekend report.  The markets are selling off today .  I have to wonder , ” Will they bounce with Friday data and turn down again at a later date?  Are they selling off now as the start of an ugly drop to come , while Commodities have a relief rally.”   I wont know until after Friday and we’ll review it all in that weekend report.  YOu can wait until that report comes out to decide to start a position?  Add to one already started?

 

For those wondering, I am a trader, so I added on a “Trade set up” this morning for a quick trade.  Now  it has run up enough that I may hold overnight and just see what Friday brings.  That is risky, but the overall set up

 

Best wishes to all, and happy trading.

 

~ALEX

142 replies
    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Sure- I just started scanning Miners and saw so many up over 10% , some at 15-20%, so I wanted to point out the move, but also point out that POP in March on the first day. We had a pullback the next . SO IF WE ARE DONT A BIT TOMORROW, it may be fine.

  1. LeChiffre
    LeChiffre says:

    bought calls on COG. the hourly is yummy. (refresh)

    COG is so beat up. (daily, weekly you pick)

  2. LeChiffre
    LeChiffre says:

    One more update. this ratio cracked under its 50MA, which could lead to further selling.
    Just heads up

  3. Alchi
    Alchi says:

    Alex,
    Do you have an advise where you normally put a stop loss order? I put mine under recent low in GDX ($13.17) and when on Wednesday it broke it, I bailed out… only to see it recover and move higher. I do not mind taking a quick loss and would like to learn what to do if price broke recent low. Is it automatic sell or how much lower in percentage do you place your stop loss? Thank you!

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Hi Alchi,

      Thats really a tough question, in my opinion you did the right thing. The difference is that some place a tight stop ( they dont want it to break down at all, so they cut losses pennies below) , and others know that some break downs ‘shake out” & then recover, so they place a ‘losse’ stop ( maybe 20 cents under GDX $13.17).

      If Someone is in a leveraged vehicle, that can be too much of a loss to stomach.

      So you did the correct thing- its a personal choice as to how far under the low one places it.

      One other factor that I can mention for me personally is that if I am in front of the screen all day, and the day of the GDX low had 100,000,000 in volume, and I see it dip below on super light volume, I wont sell. Especially if GDX dips down on 40,000,000 at 3:30 p.m.. It will usually bounce back above and go higher, or bounce back above & then sell off heavier, but I usually wait to see. .

  4. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    CUDO’s to Maria for pointing out that she liked BAS 2 days ago. Looks similar to the start of the March run higher.
    .
    Now check out RIG & that volume. Nice looking pop.

    • SonOfGud
      SonOfGud says:

      g’day M (/rubs sleep out my eyes, lol)
      im buggered if i know whats going on with such a choppy morphing wave.
      its a real ‘zillion interpretations – take yer pick’ at the mo.

      but your first blue down wave 1, is a diagonal impulse isnt it? ie 5 waves with overlapping 1&4
      (but needs labelling i-v .. you only have i-iv??)

    • SonOfGud
      SonOfGud says:

      i spose this is a possible from whats presented so far.

      either 123(45) or abc version

      that ii stopped just short of the e

  5. Bill
    Bill says:

    ENERGY SECTOR? Getting close to a bottom in OIL, so time to start planning stocks to pick up for a play. Some have reported earnings, others this week. Which stocks do you expect to recover nicely from the beat down? Maria, I know you like BAS here, who else?

  6. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    Bill – I spent time looking at Energy stocks. Wow what a set up & wow what POPS.

    Just look at CRK, LGCY, OAS, BBG etc etc . Some of the %-Gains were crazy good for traders. I expect many will do that. Maybe look for ones that havent POPPED yet, or JUST put in a reversal with high volume.

    And REXX just went from $5.50 to under $2 in a month. That has to be worth a bounce.

    These were with OIL RED yesterday.

    • Bill
      Bill says:

      REXX had a nice pop Yesterday, but not the volume of the others? Beat estimate on earnings. I still think its a few days early to buy? I don’t want to catch anymore knives. LGCY’s earnings were awful and it still went up. CRK nice volume, OAS is actually making money. I like that……

  7. Onlooker from Troy
    Onlooker from Troy says:

    Still in limbo here. Could go either way. Gold still rejected by 10 DMA and now testing that bottom trendline yet again. If GDX loses the 13.17 level again it could get ugly for a bit. Could be a real good entry pt though with stop just below that. All up to the dollar, it would seem.

      • Geurt.
        Geurt. says:

        Bill…. when you think you will buy NUGT, let us know.
        You read charts very well. Thus where is the support line from NUGT ?
        Thanks Bill.

        • Bill
          Bill says:

          Geurt, I’m just throwing ideas out there, see attached NUGT chart for I’m looking at.. I have usually bad timing when I buy, follow CF not me.

    • Cason
      Cason says:

      Hard to tell right now, isn’t it? Hoping we can start a slow break to the upside after open and made that makes it’s own momentum that can then start to pick up…

  8. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    Remember what I mentioned yesterday…the past 2 Fridays were reversal days, and today jobs number was supposed to be the “concern”. I think it is of no concern, and likely this Friday will be a 3rd Friday reversal that stocks.

    • Geurt.
      Geurt. says:

      Doc…… you were right. Blood pressures go down.
      But, be aware of….. the unexpected enemy.

    • Onlooker from Troy
      Onlooker from Troy says:

      Sentiment is bearish (at least short term) with put/call ratio kind of high, etc. If mkt can’t hold up with that being the case that’s very telling. Maybe that fundamentals are eroding and the breadth issues are not a red herring after all.

  9. Onlooker from Troy
    Onlooker from Troy says:

    Looking good. Possibly we’re getting an intraday backtest of the downtrend line on GDX right here, which would make for another good entry pt.

    • Bill
      Bill says:

      CRK up again! Man I just want to jump in 100% right now, someone talk me off the ledge. Timing is key. When do we buy.

      • chartfreak1
        chartfreak1 says:

        Crazy, but CRK is up 100% in 3 days!

        So You try to buy the ones that havent run up too much. REXX was the buy yesterday

        MAYBE ONLY BUY ONES THAT ALREADY RELEASED EARNINGS TO BE SAFE

        • Bill
          Bill says:

          Okay, who is the buy Today? SD, EOG, EXXI? I really like EOG, they killed earnings and are making $$$. Also Krammer like the fundamentals.

          • chartfreak1
            chartfreak1 says:

            I havent studied any earnings on energy yet. I am not informed on that area. The SET UPS look great for some good %-Gainers tho.

            I also think the Miners might be on their way. GDX above the 10sma with 15 million volume in the first hr. Short covering may start.

            I added to my position from yesterday earlier today . Many Miners looking good here

    • Onlooker from Troy
      Onlooker from Troy says:

      That was one nasty fakeout below the 13.17 GDX low (assuming this all holds up). One thing about it is that it’s liable to erode peoples’ stop discipline. I know I got faked out of some of my position and it’s hard to see that happen. Knowing how you’re going to re-enter is key, or else it tends to lead to reckless chasing and emotional trading. Been there, done that.

      • SonOfGud
        SonOfGud says:

        i got faked out of 1/3 of what i had… d’oh
        but least i got a good nights sleep that night.
        tonite? .. maybe not so good as it coulda been!

        • Ken
          Ken says:

          I did not get stopped out but just reduced exposure, now when to add back……I am thinking either adding if GDX closes above the 10sma near ths close or wait till Mondays action for verification of this up move???

          • SonOfGud
            SonOfGud says:

            hi K.
            yeah.. i was goonna ask a general question to the group.. as to what trading systems they use?
            at present, im using a hotchpotch of entry points… eg swings at oscillator extremes, eMA crossovers (inc Elder type momo), sMA breakouts & pullbacks, & congestion breakouts.

          • Ken
            Ken says:

            GDX short term time frame:

            MACD cross is positive.
            RSI trending higher is positive.
            Stochs confirming is positive.

            It is just the bullion banks that is concerning to me.

      • chartfreak1
        chartfreak1 says:

        Yeah, exactly and me too. Lately we’ve seen stop run, recover…stop run 3 days later, and recover. Stop run again 3 days later, recover. It gets frustrating & def could erode discipline.

        Less worrisome with individual miners . Some made higher lows ( NG, SA, SAND, IAG, EGO)

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Earnings release last night. That may be being digested.

      They werent bad earnings, but SSRI also held up better than others in the pullback. . It only pulled back about 62% , so maybe less shorts covering? Less new buyers? Not sure.

      • deshy
        deshy says:

        Thx. Thought it might be a ‘bad chart’ b/c the rest of those items didn’t seem that bad to me when I heard it either.

    • Cason
      Cason says:

      Yeah, I’ve been giving this one a lot of thought today. I thought we were ready to ride the rocket and wanted it to take straight off (and still do!). BUT it appears bears are not giving up. I have not seen any signs of short covering at all. In fact, I would tell you I think there is a large crowd still shorting every pop. So, I think this bottom might be a bit of a knife fight. Which really makes options and 3x ETF a bit tough.
      Gold still below 1100. Swing high of 1105 needs to get taken out then 1130 break down. If spot can get past that, we could get some real legs. So, while I am wholly unimpressed with GDXJ right now, trying to keep actual spot price in perspective.
      Alex, any thoughts on this would be awesome in the weekend report.

      • Cason
        Cason says:

        Stopped out of JNUG for yet again, another loss in PM land. Really, really hard not to be emotional now. Thought we had something going today, this is what pure heartbreak feels like. I have to question what I am doing here. Continuing to short the pops as they occur would be working much, much better. Why fight the trend (and the bullion banks).I’m really starting to wonder if a rally can even happen in this sector. All signs are there yet every attempt fails. Badly.

        • chartfreak1
          chartfreak1 says:

          If I may mention with a desire to help

          It sounds a bit like Too much leverage? I have no idea how big you are going in ( I dont need to know) , but you sound like your losses are big.

          If one waited for the GDX to get above 10sma, started small, and got stopped out…I dont think it would be that emotional. Its not time to swing for the fences.

          re-read your last sentence. That is from trying to catch the bottom, maybe you should wait until we have a low above the 10sma , and then a pullback towards the 10sma? Play it safer.

          • Cason
            Cason says:

            Thanks. I thought I did that when we busted the 10 day, drifted down to test and then turned back up. Obviously needs to close above that.
            I really can’t believe this sold all of the way off. I remain completely shocked.

            So, upset not b/c of the actual $$ figure today but more the batting average – I’m missing every trade right now. Also,I knew this conundrum to be completely true – 1) If I sell, it will be at the lows and it will move higher Monday 2) if I hold, it will move further against me Monday. I have some other positions just absolutely beat in the face today, too much all at once for me. Sorry for crapping on your board.

          • chartfreak1
            chartfreak1 says:

            Ur not crapping on the board, not at all. It has been frustrating. Other lows would have dropped and popped and run higher by now.

            I just thought that when you were saying how terrible it is (And I look at a chart of GDX and it hasnt really changed) I thought that the problem may have been position size , so I just wanted to mention that for future trading.

            What you said is true…we broke above the 10sma and seriously this morning looked good , because many miners were blasting off. SA, NG, IAG, etc etc tacked on some good % – so it looked “Real”.

            Still could be , we are “at” the 10sma area. It is just amazing from my view point too. I write a letter and 2 Fridays in a row ( now 3) we are left with a reversal candle going into the weekend ( Not many want to hold through Sunday overnight) so its a tad frustrating in that way too.

            GOLD may have close above its 10sma, but BARELY and on a friday, so it doesnt mean much to me with a SUnday night raid possible.

            Dont worry about crapping on the board… Thats what it’s here for and We just change the page with the next report 🙂

          • Maria
            Maria says:

            cason…so sorry about your week :-/ it’s a tough battlefield out there and getting tougher every year.. scratch that.. every month!! for my first few years I was strictly a swing trader and did pretty darn good…but .. since beginning daytrading… ugggh… it’s totally messed with my ability to swing… i suck at it actually… i seriously have to do some wicked deep breathing not to “intervene” during corrections…:-/
            annnnd daytrading is gruesomely difficult so let me just say you are not alone in getting stopped out .. we all get dinged, it’s part of the game just take a deep breath and wait for confirmation before you step in … or dont trade those evil 3x ers… they just compound the problem – for me anyway. I stopped trading them this year & I am a MUCH happier camper. ;o) (i did just take a tiny nibble at jnug…knowing full well wave 2 would be a deep correction i never know w/ work if I’ll have time .soooo.. i bit. ;o) 50 lashes with a wet noodle for me… ha ha…
            have a nice weekend my trader friend….
            M

          • Cason
            Cason says:

            Thanks, Maria. I meant to swing it, but I have just seen this tumble down without mercy so often and just didn’t did want to be a part of it. Should have started smaller and added but too late now. Day trading much harder than it appears.
            As far as the 3x ETFs, I hear you. I am small time and sometimes use 3x and options as I don’t have the full capital to go in 1x. But need to do a better risk decision. Thanks

    • Cason
      Cason says:

      This is really bad. I’ve actually had a really tough day. Not what I had hoped going into the weekend, may have no choice but to let go of JNUG. 🙁

    • Cason
      Cason says:

      All of that damage, spot gold never moved more than $7, but that was a 10% turn hi to lo in JNUG.

  10. Cason
    Cason says:

    GDXJ trying to turn negative. I try not to pay attention to GC_F moves this late – COMEX is closed for week, most big traders have packed it up for the day. But may got stopped out shortly.
    MUX was a favorite of mine to play in 2013, 2014 BMRs but has been absolutely gutted past year, may present a huge opportunity if a true bottom is in, watch but wouldn’t grab yet.
    Look at CDE, absolutely getting hammered, it was over 4 just a week ago. Def can’t get apathetic out here…

  11. Ken
    Ken says:

    I am not adding to GDX just yet, just cant seem to close above the 10sma but another positive is the USD hit resistance again today and sold off.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      XLE isnt above the 10sma either, so it isnt really safe . I’m not sure what is safe above the 10sma now, XLE closed above it 2x in July & gave it up.

      I think we need to see XLE or GDX move strongly above the 10sma for 2 days or so and then drifts back down to back test it on light volume. A higher low .

      That would be considered a ‘safer’ entry.

      But many of the energy stocks do look tempting.

      • Ken
        Ken says:

        Agree.
        Although….couldnt resist…. I bght a small position yesterday morning and added a little more this pm stop just below yesterdays low, it is a risk (1%) reward trade for me. 🙂

  12. Maria
    Maria says:

    i still think it’s behaving as planned… here’s where EW reallly help me understand where we are in the wave… wave 2 is generally deep 61%, so i was expecting a pullback. But..it ‘appears’ that 2 is over and 3 is on deck..woop wooop.. it did seem to bounce where it should have, but wave 2 CAN retrace up to 99% of 1 sooo.. i generally skip wave 1 cuz im not a happy camper sitting thru wave 2 correction .. which is why Im with Ken.. hop in AFTER 2… at the beginning of 3 and ride that mo fo heater to the top…

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/GutJpiDy/

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      I was thinking Gin & Tonic , but OK, I’ll start with a old one 🙂

      P.S. GOLD CHART looks pretty good. Closed over the 10sma and the past 3 Fridays show up as Reversals. Maybe this one sticks??

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