Feb 8th – T.G.I.F.
SPX – The SPX dropped 100 points. My report pertaining to ‘thin ice’ has played out, the volatility remains . In the past, we have seen ICLs drop down close to the 200sma, and occasionally break right through it.
QQQ – In yesterdays report I used this chart to warn those ‘loading up on leverage’ that those lows could be revisited. Keep position size small until the dust settles.
QQQ – And this happened with the NASDAQ closing down 275 points.
Let’s discuss this sell off further …
NASDAQ – NASDAQ closed down 275! And we see the same thing here as we saw with the SPX and the 200sma in the past, so…
NASDAQ – If we got a quick a-b-c down, with the 2 legs of about equal length, it would get us to the 200sma.

WTIC – Oils selling is finally taking place. This may just sell off into an ICL, but IF we get a bounce, it could be that we put a dcl in place. The next daily cycle should be L.T. ( That will a good time to buy SCO or DWT). See the chart.
XLE – Will the 200sma hold? If Oil keeps selling, it may not. This has been a sharp sell off. No trades here yet.
I THINK I HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS 
UUP (for the USD)- I’m using this for volume. It looks like the USD is topping and that would be the L.T. Daily cycle that I want, to ‘top’ the dollar, and ‘bottom’ Gold & Miners.
GOLD – This shows that GOLD looks fine, though Miners may have been caught up in the market selling. Miners should rally if Gold does. Read this chart, if the USD is topping, Gold looks ready.
This blue candle is a true flat Gravestone Doji – it is a bottoming candle. Basically after a sell off, it opens at the days lows, rallies higher, but then gives it all back. That makes it look weak, and people think it is bearish, but at the end of a sell off, it is the bottom.
GDX – This is very similar to a flat gravestone doji, but I often call it an ‘ inverted hammer’. This often ends a sell off, and as you very well know, this was certainly a day after day after day sell off. Please read the chart.
This is from a textbook of candlesticks – showing that the ‘ Inverted Hammer’ is also a ‘ Gravestone Doji’ , often ending a sell off.
As mentioned in yesterdays report, I found a pattern at JUNG $12.90- $13ish that looked like the lows for GDXJ / JNUGand bought it. Are the lows in for GDX? 1. Gold has a reversal Candle. 2. The UUP volume is drying up and it is at day 10. 3. Look for a possible swing low on Friday 🙂 I think that we might finally be there friday or Monday. We may need a group hug after this week. 
After the deeper than expected sell off, I have heard some saying, “This is absolutely Bearish for Miners. There is nothing bullish about the way Miners are pulling back” and so on. We need to take a look and see if this sector is salvageable .
AUY – AUY is actually a very bullish looking pull back (so far), down to the 50sma and back testing the break out again. I like AUY as a bit of a leader here.
AUY WEEKLY – AUY broke out from a solid base and is back testing. If Gold does reverse & rally, I’ll buy this. See the chart.
IAG WEEKLY – Bear market material? I see a nice 2 yr uptrend. Well, what about that MACD?
IAG WEEKLY – We just need a rally soon to fix that, see the chart below.
GORO WEEKLY– After losing the 50 week MA for most of 2017, GORO just regained it with this ICL, and remains above it. Bearish? Not yet.
NEM – Big sell off, yes. As NEM broke the 50sma, volume surged, but price didn’t really crash to match that volume. USUALLY I view that as distribution. Lots of sellers stopping out, but not a big drop because the Big Buyers are grabbing the shares. It could be capitulation lows. This is a back test too.
GOLD (Randgold) – Massive volume in this one as it broke the lows and ran some stops. Randgold has held up bullishly since the 2016 rally. If it recovers, it could be a ‘stop run’. See the chart.
Some Miners have experienced more damage than others, but I wanted to show you the ones above, because they still look very bullish, as long as the sell off ends soon.
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Conclusion: The markets have had a volatile week, so any really good ‘low risk trades’ have been a bit difficult to come by. Patience will pay off, because often these sell off periods do lead to good buying opportunities. I am thinking that the Precious Metals markets are very close to a bottom (or there). Watch for a swing low to form.
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Thankfully it is Friday if you are in need of a little rest after this week. The Markets gave us some very fast movement and high volatility, they pretty much seemed to throw just about everything that it could our way. The good news? This kind of volatility often leads to opportunities once the dust settles.
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In this report, I am pointing out that basically with the Precious Metals, Time should be up. Gold looks fine and should be ready to turn higher, and the USD seems to be fizzling out. While some Miners got caught up in the market selling, they could make up for that if the sector turns upward. Miners can exaggerate moves in both directions. GDX has a Gravestone Doji after a prolonged period of selling. Let’s see what Friday can do.
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I have to admit that I was wrong when I expected The Miners to hold up as well as Gold did. I had reviewed the Rally out of the DEC 2015 ICL and Dec 2016 ICLs and saw that Miners simply went sideways into the first dcl at that time. Selling them often left people behind without a pullback to re-enter. Now we’ll see how they react when the lows are finally in for Gold, again I think we are CLOSE or there now.
I believe is still possible that with ‘short covering’ and ‘buyers’ stepping in, we can get the move that we were hoping for in the next daily cycle, as seen here. If not, I would think that we should at least get a move to the upper orange barrier.
I really hope that Gold , Silver, and the Miners move higher Friday, the last trading day of the week. Enjoy your Friday trading, and especially your upcoming weekend! Do something that you really love to do, get out of the house, have some fun, spend the time in a relaxing and refreshing way if you can. Then we’ll be fresh and ready to attack the trading week on Monday. Happy Friday.
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~ALEX
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awesome stuff Alex.. thanks… hard to be patience with GDX.. as long as 21.28 holds I’m optimistic not headed to 17’s… ABX seems to be the canary in the coal mine finishing lows…. regards to SPX need to get off lows or downside 200d test to match ES low which hit 2529.. fun times…
No doubt about it, waiting for the minors to find some kind of level of support has been crazy. As far as the SPX the 200-day moving average also has an open Gap from September below it. I don’t know if we will go that low though. We could see a V bottom if sentiment gets bad enough and I think it is getting pretty upsetting from any now.
thx chartfreak… 🙂
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Hey Alex. Great to get a report in the morning my time!
Hey you don’t have a long term chart of inflation and rate rises and then the reaction from stock market and gold do you? Trying to show my brother what happens when rates have gone up or down long term.
Hey Matt
Yeah, I guess you usually get the report right before bed time .
As for the inflation charts , I know I do I’ll find it later and email it to you if you want.
Alex, if you have charts showing how stocks and gold react to rising interest rates I’d like to see you add them to the weekend report. Fear of rising rates is supposedly what is causing stocks to sell off and the Fed intends to raise rates this year so I’m curious to see how stocks (and gold) have reacted to Fed rate hikes in the past. As I recall you have shown that gold actually tends to go up with rates, but I’m not sure about stocks. I think stocks are setting up a golden buying opp, just a question of when to pull the trigger and get back in heavy.
Gold rose with interest rate hikes, but the initial reaction on the day of the Fed rate Hikes varied. It would spike down & then rally 2 days later, etc
The General Markets pretty much did the same, but they really got choppy. They would drop & recover & drop & recover after a rate hike, but it didn’t drop the markets permanently, they ended up rallying later on to new highs.
I’ll put it in a future report
yeah… get on that … bum
#NoRest4TheWeary
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Great day all ……. cheers
Thanks!
You missed my wave C Fib Retracements on the SPX at the 200 sma. lol 😉
Alex, Don’t forget to make the chiropractor’s appointment for this afternoon so you can enjoy the weekend, too.
Thanks, CF. I´m down to 25% or so invested, and don´t like the thought of selling into the decline, but for me it will be important to see how the impending rally goes. I don´t want to load the boat only to see a 10% move in GDX bc I would have to exit into the rally after the damage that has been done. So I prefer to wait until I think the long term uptrend will come, and hopefully buy into a real hard shakeout and panic, this hasn´t qualified yet, in my opinion.
I will note that reviewing my charts last night, GDX and GDXJ have now flipped to a SELL on my monthly charts. This can change again if we get a sharp rally and soon, back to a BUY, but any further weakness virtually guarantees miners are not going up substantially from these levels for many months, again only my opinion.
Ralph, what are you using for your sell parameters?
I have already sold all I am going to sell for now, will keep the 25% invested and just look for another ripe opportunity to load up again. While it feels like we are due for a decent, tradeable bounce, as of now I am not trying to catch it bc miners have had every eccuse to rally including weak stock market, and gold doing well, yet they get sold every day.
I will get another shot to load up, unless this ends up being THE bottom, but Im not thinking that at the moment.
I still think we will see miners rally spectaculary, but dont think its imminent. I could change my mind if they start acting like they should, relative to stocks, gold, etc
I’m expecting gold to begin to move higher, we are due timing-wise, and I’m going to be invested in minors and just see how they react to Gold’s upside. Obviously with the market selling off they kind of overdid it to the downside. If they don’t make up for it on the upside I will have to adjust my Trading at that time. It will take a good couple of weeks off of the bottom to know for sure and so it will be in the reports as time goes by.
Yes, but on the bright side , Using a monthly, and only being on February 9, if we got a two-week rally that would completely change what February looks like.
” I have to admit that I was wrong when I expected The Miners to hold up as well as Gold did.” Alex, nobody expects you to have a crystal ball. You can”t get it right all the time. Not possible. You have an uncanny ability to catch low price solid BUY points. You bought JNUG at $13, very near the low. Hopefully that works out great. If not, you get out and try again. I hope the new guys notice your honesty and appreciate your ability to guide us into favorable positions. Happy Friday.
“Keep position size small until the dust settles.” Good one, I was in DUST this week sold it Yesterday. Ha
Ha… maybe the dust has settled 🙂
Thanks, Alex. Great report.
I would think markets selling off, plus signs of inflation, would cause money to move into gold. Anyone know why gold isn’t getting more appreciation in price? I get that the dollar has been rising, but I would still think safe haven assets would rise with such volatility.
I do think that gold will be rallying as they continue to increase rates and try to fight inflation. I do think inflation is evident in the rise of oil and the rise of Commodities and even gold is rising. I think the miners can be manipulated, so that the big boys can load up and often they do this by frustrating retail buyers and trying to get them to sell. I guess in the short-term we have to deal with things like that but in the long run, as shown on the weekend reports, I do think we will see upside when gold gets going. I’ll be reviewing that again in the weekend report… gold from July Lowe’s to now is a decent increase
Yes I agree you will get a good bounce in gold and metals but the real opportunity will be perhaps in May when US dollar tops and begins it’s real descent like 2011 … for a good year …..
I might be misunderstanding you, but the USD topped in 2017
Thanks, Alex. I’m holding strong. This has been rough though.
I can see higher highs and higher lows in Gold on the 1 hr chart. Looks like a H&S pattern with a move to $1340 possible. As long as we dont get a big sell off. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b0c0da400423af62be0a605d256ee5404e7eccd42079e3a8fa85f5d1ef6dff0e.jpg
Learning Process? Yiu can never know everything. I hope to continue to learn from you. Thanks for being here! 🙂
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I hate the fact that Gold never ran the last set of possible “Stops” overnight.
I was hoping that we would have seen Gold drop to around $1300- as shown on this chart from yesterday .
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Seems like GSV pops in the AM lately…hmmm
bot a little bit more JNUG 12.87
sold CBWTF +8%
You dirty Dog! I did that yesterday on the trip to the lows, added near the lows, and today looks like a shake out below those lows and a back test of the wedge that I had been drawing
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I didnt add today , but it has reversed and moved upside. NIce entry for you! Easy to use a tigher stop.
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interesting back test – like you am a bit disappointed we didn’t get a stop run, but maybe it shall not be
I will keep adding, carefully – but I think if GDXJ closes above 31.50 or so that shld break the down trend, and get the stochastics curling up
I’m looking at the same area, and now I’m hoping that Gold DOESN’T Run those stops =) Unless it happens overnight Sunday & recovers, because I’d like to hold my positions over the weekend, but they don’t make it easy bouncing around at these recent lows
yeah – I am taking a one to two week view, expecting / hoping for a strong bounce back to the recent highs…I will resist selling into new lows, keep ammo handy to add
I was in EYES – should have sold the break of the 50sma yesterday, but was away from my screen a lot of the day and missed it. Had to sell for a loss today (Had some pretty good gains, another one bites the dust). Tough trading in the choppy markets when so many are taking profits, you dont get any follow through.
and more JNUG at 12.6
I know JNUG tends to move better than NUGT in a trending market, but for the short term (once we get a bounce/swing low/USD top), do you think NUGT’s (and GDX’s) comparatively larger pull back would make any difference through the top of the next DC?
I was wondering the same thing- like a sling-shot affect, right?
I was watching NEM, ABX, GG, AEM, etc & wondering if FUNDS were selling to lock in Gains from the JULY or Dec lows, to offset the selling in the market.
Look at NEM from JULY lows, and AEM from Dec lows- they could be locking in gains, to offset losses in the general market sell off ( Especially if they were leveraged long with UPRO UDOW, TQQQ during the sudden drop Friday & Monday and yesterday)
Then when MIners move higher, I thought that maybe a big move comes back into NEM, GG, AEM, etc
I feel like It’s kind of a guessing game at this point, I FEEL LIKE I AM TRYING TO PUT REASONABLE IDEAS BEHIND UNREASONABLE SELLING. .
My DWT is somewhat offsetting my JNUG dip –
so the ‘pain’ isn’t really there, but neither is the ‘gain’.
back scalp TVIX as SPX broke morning lows
Crazy stuff. UVXY $40?? J/K but you never know 🙂
Playing TVIX as well but no scalping, just riding the channels on 5 min chart. Using DIA as a proxy, worked like charm yesterday and on this mornings trade. Waiting on another set up now or even SVXY if we get some upside.
In again at $12,27 target $13.30
$13.30 target hit, , I’m out but it may run to $13.80, DIA didn’t quite hit bottom channel yet,
fast action scalping
My ira may not be loving this volitilty but my trading is, this TVIX is a perfect swing vehicle right now.
small scalp LABD on Trump comments
out 1/2 TVIX +1
see if can get flush to 2550 ..
Tough times for “dip buyers” … stocks are headed lower IMO, this week’s “bottom” is likely to be taken out. And I don’t have to tell PM traders how hard it has been to “pick your bottom” lately. I’m 90% in cash looking for a good buying opp. You are not supposed to sell on down days, but my “capital preservation” strategy has saved me a ton of money over the past couple weeks by selling JNUG and TQQQ/UDOW on the way down, booking small losses instead of enduring massive draw downs. Good trading to all!
Well that was fast! I barely finished typing my post and UDOW, UPRO and TQQQ have already taken out the week’s low. Look out below!
out 1/2 LABD
out another slice TVIX
out rest TVIX scalp
taking profits LABD
Pretty big POP in gold on the 5 minute chart
Big Volume Pop at that
need back thru todays high 2620 to end (b) wave down and start (c) wave up IMO.. let’s go bulls ..
GDX must be getting close to a rat’s nest of stops right at the Dec 12 low.
Crazy – but true
that will be your stop run. Will be tough to hang on. Hopefully its over and recovers quick. I thought I had a good buy on NUGT at $24. Yikes.
21.23 watching..
That is CRAZY that they’re going to run the stops at this point. Really makes me think that Miners are in their 2nd daily cycle, even though GOLD looks to be in the first.
Cycles aside – Last MAY we had GDXJ bottom in MAY 2017 and never returned to break those lows at Golds July ICL- GDXJ put in a higher low in July.
I have seen JNUG have 20% up days, maybe we’ll see a 20% down day today
GDXJ at the 88.6% Fibo. Fingers crossed. GDX Double bottom
IO monster today.. from 3’s in july … wow
Gold was lower Yesterday 1307, and NUGT was 24.37. Today gold is higher at 1311 yet, NUGT is lower at 23.21. No linear relationship. Frustrating. Ive seen this before and miners didn’t fare well. Those are the lows so far, btw.
Has anyone else stopped out of miners?
many times .. yesterday stopped out JNUG
yes, but I still own AUMN, THM, SVBL
Ive been out, buying Today
and more at 12.36
back scalp TVIX tight stop
GDX $21.10 is the DEC lows, GDX is at $21.20 .
How could they not be gunning for those lows, flood the stops, and try to enter.
CRAZY CRAZY – I’d have to expect some kind of a capitulation reversal next
gritting my teeth…..bid at $12.00 for more JNUG
I’m looking for it around $11.50,
and just hit $11.49,
Dang…. idk what the rush is.. let it prove itself … No?
i still keep sticking my hand in the flame.. former day .setups keep falling apart.. grrrrr
Look away maRia… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/92fc82c1d46076bca860d14bf1afbcca847eea9427306ef4e753befd2eb399f0.png
i bought it based on the 10 day channel of a 15 min chart. Touched the lower line, indicators lined up and i only missed buying in at the days bottom by .16. Closed today right at my first target , broke the mid channel line and now should finish a move to the upper channel some where between 12.73 and 12.55 depending on rise and possible if gold rallies over weekend a gap open to 12.90, 🙂
miller • 3 hours ago
In JNUG at $11.60 using 15min chart, , Close stops, should see $12.20 zone and then $12.90
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WHAT are people getting for the lows in GDX DEC – I just got 2 different readings
$21.10 and $21,27.
I think they broke the lows in GDX. $21.27 looks like the real DEC low, right?
I think it depends whether you adjust for the $0.176 dividend on Dec 18.
Dec lows 21.27 July 20.99 May 20.89 . Starting to worry about the 20 point pops that we are getting and I’m ignoring. Miners never do what I expect and even if it is close, just may not run all the stops now.
21.27 – that is what I had, thx
12% of GDX is owned by hedge funds. Prob not helping our cause.
I have to ask the question. With GDX at a new lower low, does this mean the BULL is dead?
I don´t think so, not long term anyway.
I agree – 3 year chart says a lot- I’ll discuss it in the weekend report.
I think they ( Big Smart Money) Can manipulate Miners – GOLD still looks great. I also think that they are running the stops to gain larger positions for the next bull run that they see coming in what could be an inflationary environment..
For sure the fundamentals for gold are intact. #inflation
if the 2day 400sma/4day 200sma is lost (currently GDX just hovering above its support there @ 21.14.. previously held last march/may/july),…. i think there will perhaps be a completion of a c-wave down (abc correction from august2016) to take out the low @ 18.58 from dec2016
What do you think? Support at the trend line! Finger crossed looking for perma gold bulls to step in an start buying.
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GDX is also on a 1-year support… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5afdb2ff19e7f7d5b60f7fe379176323cc20ee5a40588079aae6a86063c8a6a3.jpg
I sold DWT @ $13.90 . I think that we might get a dcl, and then the next daily cycle will drop into the ICL (not this one).
I could be wrong, but I’m locking in profit and will try DWT again, if the next daily cycle arrives and rolls over L.T.
I also see a possible bearish wedge forming
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nice trade 🙂
good call, i’m out 14.05 + 26%
It’s riding right up that upper line. Looks like OIL is finally really in sell mode.
JNUG test Dec lows here…. potential failed ICL bounce in the works?
Just so you know , I dont count Miners- I go by Gold. I definitely wouldnt go by a 3x etf, they dip to new lows a lot, but I do think that GDX broke Dec lows.
I have seen Miners break lows of a prior dcl and it didnt affect the next run higher- still ran to new highs when Gold held up, so I am dismissing it at this point, with Gold still up at the 50% retrace.. I will want to see how they bounce out of these lows though- THAT will be vet important
One common characteristic in the current miners decline has been the absence of solid leadership. Until we see something in that front, pressure may abate but will remain a constant threat. The THM and AKGs of the world are not sufficient to trigger demand
SPY: Eventually it should tag the 200 ma @ 251 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4714e4919c532f83d3a4227d4aaacff317ca325b4deb6e826c676497a648430e.jpg
taking slice off TVIX on this run at resist .. raise stop entry
GDX dec low 21.20…..todays low so far 21.18….close enough, buying last JNUG for the day here 12.20
will have powder for Monday if they want to gun the stops
I already drew up this chart early in the week for the weekend report
I was thinking ahead to the next ICL for a MASSIVE stop run ( Could it happen NOW?)
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I edited the comments under the above chart
that would be in keeping with my comment below… with the dec2016 low being taken out by a completed wave c down (a c.4 bounce & c.5 drop are your dotted lines)
Your count only works with the bounce next and not a drop cascade sell off now, correct?
i sppose a larger cascade c.3 now, with a small c4/c5 at the end would work fine too.. the c might truncate & fall short anyways (my EWs always carry a disclaimer as ya know)
Well, you pointed out the drop below 2016 lows, and I could see that coming later, even if this row of stops is run. That would fit your count very well too.
On my chart, that row of magenta arrows being run all at once would fill their pockets quite well.
GDX ran the lows of Dec already, not much lower would run all magenta arrows. Crazy, But doable.
I think the dollar is getting propped up due to overall market sell off. That’s why gold isn’t bouncing here.
Wow- I see what you see. This has potential for a big move. Nice chart
Yes, and in the weekend report I’m going to discuss it more. I drew that up on Wednesday , I have already begun checking into it and those kind of ‘stop runs’ in bull markets do happen often actually. Right before a big move.
Not exactly the same, but you see it in NFLX – Stop runs and then a move higher
Alex,
With all that range bound trading in the rectangle, is that what they refer to as coiling?
I am with you on the above chart, though I would like to see a slight undercut of the 2016 lows to really wash everybody out.
It could
TVIX there she goes as SPX 2550 test near
new lows GDX
loaded w JNUG!!
And THIS is why it is safer to buy a swing low 🙂 cash on the side waiting for that reversal is going to pay off well, but I still own a few miners
The Dec 16 low in GDX is 18.58. We may see that soon as the supportive trend line off that low has been broken. Looks like the DUST has not settled!
Dust has definitely not settled
Looks like one of those 20% days that we used to see in JNUG or JDST
It looks like they are gunning for a wash out, while GOLD holds up pretty well ( Gold hasnt broken yesterdays lows. It truly makes no sense if you look at it that way, but it makes sense if they are trying to drive price down to load up on big positions
I just thought that was coming at the next ICL. Not now.
…. WORD..
much better view these days…
Darn.. can’t post videos here…I just learn that… o well.. haters the sky.. giggle
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Yes, that’s a little more relaxing that the sell off charts =)
I do hope most people waited for a swing low before grabbing 3x etfs. I mentioned that I jumped in JNUG at $13 as a trade attempt, but that it was a risky trade. That bottom area broke down- stopped me out.
Sometimes it really is Best to wait for the cascade to stop & reverse.
I do own a few miners though
I got caught in my 3x ETFs and it’s not fun at all. But as I’ve said many times, I’m holding until you believe a second DC isn’t in the near future.
Just a note for the future:
On a 3x etf- one really needs to honor stops, because of their decay & leverage they get cut in 1/2 so quickly. I trade in & out at times, I take chances when I should be more patient, but they move in big %’s that they really are a high risk vehicle of trade. I cut them quickly if they run in the other direction.
In fact, I never used to mention them in my reports or in my comments – specifically for that reason. I would have people take a trade and not let go as it drops. I think you’ll be ok later, but that kind of mental pain is brutal to have to endure.
I do believe that Gold will have a 2nd daily cycle run higher ( It may run those stops at $1300), but Miners are definitely selling down ridiculously to break lows. I know that it is not a refection of miners real value.
Think about this : If Gold trades at $1600- and they sell 100,000 oz – their profits increase greatly, by 300/oz. How can they not gain value as Gold runs higher?
This is an artificial suppression of price.
Yeah, I appreciate it Alex. It’s been the most pain I’ve experienced in a while. And I usually play it safe with 3x, but loss aversion took hold. So now I’m just taking the beating and trying to patient. But I have sold 3x too early before due to fear and usually at the wrong time. That is why I need to rely on people better at this than me. I will never make this mistake again. Believe me!
Pete, looks like we’re bros here, gl.
I got caught in tech and of course just regular mutual funds. So not just miners, the overall drawdown has been horrific. GL
Ya, just regular market got me…..didn’t own any gold, market was enough bad…
MJs bit me a bit last Friday – I just liquidated everything , because it didnt make sense
No news, no change, etc .
I do want back in though when things stabilize
It’s not new trades, it’s that I was too invested before the breakdown. I made the same mistakes Aug 2015/Jan 16. You’d think I’d learn. Nope
Not that you didn’t learn as much as that you had a new work schedule, not in front of the screen, and for instance when Friday & Monday crashed the markets- you were probably working or in Taiwan or Hawaii . I think it was a bit of both, BUT ALSO – This sell off is not normal at times like this .
This jam down on Miners is not like other ICLs . Miners are acting separate from gold, and I am afraid that they did have 2 daily cycles before Gold. THAT is not common. I saw it , but didnt believe it for more than a day. Gold looked so good.
My miner flavor ice cream melted. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b54dff9f4c3765812905cfd2a751e41dd416c1c115f24c6ca38f924febae3c8a.png
**here’s (damnAutocorrect) 😉
DIA basing for new lows on 5 min, TVIX basing at top of channel
bear trap on the 5 min , trying to run to upper channel id imagine
hit the upper daily channel at 236.94 and turned, retesting lows now at 234.73,
DIA forming a falling wedge pattern on the 5 min,,may get some upside on break of 236, at least retest of upper channel
Theres the the break, retest of upper channel at 237 on deck
Every time we’ve seen a hellacious fall in general markets on a Friday, it’s carried over into Monday in recent recollection. I’m waiting to see what the close is like.
I bought the last reversal and was stopped for minor loss, think I’m gonna wait this time.
Break of upper channel and of this mornings lows with conviction so far, 241 retest if momentum holds, move back below 236.60 and more downside in store,,all 5 min chart short term targets
DOW running for retest of Tuesdays lows now,
There it is,,denied first try , see where support holds now
238 zone should do it or 237.4 back in play
If we can hold 238 id guess a run and close on retest of 241.96 area
retest of 237 with high volume reversal there, break above 239 and we should test the 241.96
If so and TVIX breaks the channel , 11.20-11.25 in play
selling more TVIX but keeping a slice in case markets tanks down to ES previous target 2529 ..
HL making new lows.. looks fugly
make or break right now at Monthly ma support.
a failure here leads to an abyss below
JNUG getting wacked as GDXJ approaching Dec low 29.80… JDST thru 70..
Gold is hanging in there like a champ.
TVIX channel bottom .. raise stop on last under 12.90
It´s hard to believe after the recent beating miners have taken, that today is their biggest down day yet for the move.
I can’t put it into words. I don’t understand. It’s not emotions, I mean I cannot rationally comprehend with charts and analysis what is going on. I literally “don’t get it “
In JNUG at $11.60 using 15min chart, , Close stops, should see $12.20 zone and then $12.90
JNUG denied first try at $12.20 zone, hopefully get another try today,
and it did, closed right at 12.24 mid zone above mid channel,,barring gold dropping over weekend should run to upper channel minimum, and a rally in Gold could get a gap up to 2nd target at the open.
JNUG flagging on the 15 on declining volume which is good, but a break of 11.63 and im out,, I dont trust it over the weekend.
There’s a lot of bottom picking going on and probably worth the bounce but for me I’m sitting this one out…the weekly candle looks nasty if it finishes anywhere around this area with good volume.
True- if no reversal today, the candle really stands out.
In the past, the weekly candle that looks like this had a slightly lower undercut . So next week could present that.
You can see it on this chart last February & last May. 1 big weekly drop.
– the next week had the undercut reversal
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That’s exactly what I was looking at as well…challenge for me is how to identify the undercut when it comes as some were a bit deeper than others.
Yes CF you got it …. expect ICL in May load up… todays buy is good too for a good bounce….. dont margin especially with triple leverage
I just need enough of a bounce to unload this BS. I can’t believe this ICL failed this early, even earlier than 2017. Can’t call that a bull market. We didn’t even get an actual BMR.
I loaded up on Dec ICL. How did that work out?
You loaded up on leverage and are still holding it?
This has been brutal – I know this and the General markets put together has completely been a mess
Do u think it’s just backlash from those who were leveraged to the gills in general markets..getting margin calls? Ie. Forced selling…. pebble in the water… causing miners to “extend”
Don’t know about miners but for SPY/DOW the answer is yes.
Oh wait, you’d asked C.F.! 😛
Two other things- I know leverage is dangerous, but getting in in individual miners at the ICL I thought was “safe”. I’m baffled that did not work.
In general, I’m angry and upset, but not at CF. I think that your analysis and ability to pivot and stay frosty in unknown conditions is 2nd to none. So for any new subs, Alex doesn’t change to be “always right” but because the “market changes” and boy did it. I need to learn to be quicker or else…
I have two issues. One is ok, one is a trading change that I HAVE to make. I played options, the good news is that they are completely worthless, so if we sell down I don’t actually lose more, they can’t go below 0, so you have a max defined risk at all times.
2nd, I’ve been using mental stops and “stop at close” technique that I learned from another experienced trader. But when we get there I find the loss “unacceptable” so I hope for a bounce and limit my way out. 80% of the time that works. That is unless we have an extinction level event like this. I need to reformulate my rules or quit trading.
I was gonna send you an email bit barfed up in public instead. Thanks for listening to my gook below. I just $100 in therapy bills.
#UnintendedBenefits
Yes, email me next time.
Sorry, boss. #lazy
I can delete. I do feel better…
Ur fine- I meant send me an email if you need to talk, or want to run some thoughts by me. I think you took that wrong. Seriously, I meant “feel free to write”
Will do….
TeeHeee
(Slurp)
NOT YOU! 🙂
Hahahah
Hahaha
Ha Ha ..
Go drink at the pool and leave me and Alex alone!
I did take that wrong first time. Thank you for clarifying. Will email you this weekend. Thanks for all you do for us, mate!
.. I had my firehose ready …. 😉
I will triple leverage , but that is just me
..the house… the car …the boat ..the cat …
dont use margin I meant wnhen buying Jnug … I got burned … i would go all in now ….
failed daily cycle…… big boys loading up ? reminds me of dec 16 …..jnug deja vu
I just feel like we are so close to the MAY LOWS for GDXJ, why wouldn’t they run those stops and sell below that area?
refresh
It is ridiculous to see miners sell off this much with GOLD only pulling back 50% and above the 50sma. If GOLD is going to Rally and resume a bull run in the coming years – Miners profits will increase in a BIG WAY when they are selling Gold for $1400, then $1600, then $1800/oz- and the Big Boys know it.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2e00bdb55b8c876a7ae7da75cbcc6273b206cba421b6bd97ad5d97d345f3d376.jpg
the argument about gold holding so well has been around for a couple of years now and yet the miners continue to under-perform in a huge way
It is a consolidation…it has happened before
It is designed to discourage you and get people to hate miners and sell out.
The consolidation becomes a huge launch pad
Color me “discouraged”.
Where’s SOG, what’s 4 levels below “despondent “?
Catatonic , lol
Stopped out on life right now, mate
We should be reallllllly close then..when u get to barfin all over the feed…we’re close..:-)
Damn..that pool bar is 2 deep & there’s music & a lot of laughter rising up from the crowd…. hmmmm … (maria coyly moving closer) 😀
I need cash to redeploy at lows, #1stWorldProblems
i think these are the dead lows…..powder dry for the turn
… don’t be snorting that powder… Lol
or inhaling that cannabisCannaber….
Stay Frosty… 🙂
what’s the saying.. picking bottoms can lead to smelly fingers 🙂
Lol
OMG! #HB
OSnap… sweet home Alabama. Playn……
Luvluv…. 🙂
What a great Vibe …..
……..They pick me up when I’m feeling blue, now how bout you?
LMFAO
One interesting thing… Bitcoin is not following the markets lower. Perhaps digital gold will be the new safe haven play.
solid rally from the tuesday lows, BCH doing very well. CCs will become the safe haven play, doesn’t sound right
I was in a trading group a few years ago with some younger guys and they said nobody cares about gold as a “safe haven” any more because everything is going digital. And that was years before Bitcoin was on the radar for most people. So the cryptos may in fact take on the “safe haven” role … as crazy as that sounds to a grumpy old man like me. I USED to be a hardcore “silver stacker” with thousands of ounces of physical silver bars and coins. But I sold almost all of it back in 2013 for $21.50 to $22 per ounce. And glad I did. Selling a few thousand ounces of silver showed me how difficult it will be if/when all the guys holding physical silver and gold finally decide to “sell at the top.” Price will crash quickly because there is not enough cash available to buy up the metal. I literally cleaned out a couple of local coin shops of all the cash they had when I went in to sell my silver, which means the next guy through the door trying to sell his silver that day would get nothing. Multiple that experience a few thousand times and you can see how fast price would drop. So physical silver and gold may only be good in a SHTF bartering situation where the normal financial system has collapsed. Sorry to get off on a rant, once I started typing I couldn’t stop. LOL
WTF WTF WTF
Chillax mun…go chop wood… orrrr sumthin… 🙂
I was gonna get a shrink but I lost all of my money so I can’t afford one.
Hitting the gym then hitting the bottle. That should do the trick.
#ChillPill
😉
Must be nice to be on vacation. My 2018 vaca just got cancelled this week. #NoMoney. #FML
Says the guy who travels the world…for his job
. ..:-)
Cya… need to go cool off this hot bod in the pool….and I think ill grab one of those fruity drinks for something new ….
#meow
now you´re talking! 🙂
#Smirk
I go to Guam in 2 weeks. But I gotta work!
Hope youre ok brother
Thanks for asking, Bay. I needed some therapy and the trading group here provided that. Thanks to you all for comments and support, man!!
markets need to turn before the close, if there is liquidation at 3:45pm and it gets nasty, Monday could be an ugly day
I don’t want to jinx it but AXU is holding well
I dont want to jinx it either, but intraday, GDXJ popped and tried to break the 1 day down trend.
refresh – GDXJ INTRADAY
DONT WANT TO JINX IT
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There is follow through – WHEW, MAYBE THE STORM IS OVER AT HE LOWS AGAIN, and the next ICL breaks all of these lows and the buy of the century!
Gold holding up, miners getting hammered
I hate to think what happens to miners if gold ever starts joining the party on the downside. In 2008, miners led the whole market debacle and dropped 65% or so, so far we have only cascaded 18%, so I am still not buying big. I am bidding below the market for more SVBL, but that is it. I prefer to buy at GDX $18 or so now.
Bought 300 shares JNUG @ 12.29, just bought 500 more at $11.68
Thankfully I don’t need any of this money. If my account and retirement and life blows up, I can finally become a monk and reach enlightenment. The fuck am I attached to material things for?
might not believe this but etf THD is up more than 1% right now
Little over 2 hrs to go… Come on miners! Let’s see a power reversal and close at the high of the day.
PLEASE DO
191 comments (100 by Cason) on the site…short-term bottoming sign turning positive :-)))
I’m going to work soon so it will dry up…
I haven’t been on during day for 2 week selloff. Holding so much inside. You guys are my therapy.
I SHOULD have gone to work today…would have at least made some lunch money.
DESHY- Can you ( When u get time) Explain again what you ddi to get your name from Grey to Red>
Ray is having that problem. I dont see his comments unless I refresh the page. Thx
Does it depend how u sign in to pst?
ie .. gmail etc.
Maybe- If I log out of GMAIL mine asks me to sign into GMAIL before it lets me comment.
I have to re-sign into disqus. As long as you do that every once in awhile you stay red.
Don’t exactly recall…but I think I clicked on the “Discus” below the posting window. It asked me to sign-up (again)and I used the same login info as the site. So I think it was that even though I was logged into the CF site I was not automatically logged in to Discus. Lmk if that works.
Thx
Don’t post a comment as a “Guest”- actually register a new account with disqus (password and all that) and then post
long LABU as broke trend line
jus to cheer up our Cason..
8d GDX
(LoL.. soz Cas, im not trying send yoiu over the edge)
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ABC DOWN 🙂
NAK, the canary in the coalmine
Damn..
NAKKY equivalent….
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Double top on DXY on the hourly chart
https://www.tradingview.com/x/GsGN7rgh/
buyers stepped in at 200d SPX
I like the look of that 3 day flag in RIOT.
Did S&P just go up 30 points in 10 min or am I seeing that wrong?
Big reversal candle again- now watch one form in GDXJ
all my miners (4 of em) are showing reversal signs at various levels of support now
If it does, I’m taking credit personally for capitulating!
Lmao
I’d like to nominate you for the Nobel Capitulation Prize
Hahahaha… weRwarped
…..Brown eyed girlllllll …(music p layn in background.. waterfall gently cascading down…) ……
Is it me or do u get funnier w a drink in hand?
Lmao
#itsy bitsy teenie weenie yellow polka-dot bikini
HA! SOG is the best (and making me feel like a goat!)
buying svxy buy stop above $10.42
its got to break out of channel first but Stop on close back inside channel and target 11.40
DIA ripping but no follow through on SVXY selling on retest of tuesday lows on DIA
finally cranked out and i closed too soon apparently, should have stuck with the trading plan,
same
hope you hung in there I closed mine too soon
Still in. Up now, we’ll see Monday. Made 3 buys this afternoon ,all UP at close. Wish me luck!
long SOXL thru decline trend line
Ron I like your style. What’s the stop on a trade like that?
HL pulling away from support ..some volume.. a 200k buy on minute chart
Hmm.. interesting..
Just rcvd a vol alert on GFI as well…
think we get a bounce here at least, long overdue.. been pummelled down for a month now
LABU ripping .. nice
out 1/2 LABU 7 pts.. raise stop rest
Missed this whole move DAMN!
out 1/2 SOXL
SPX +70 off lows
Added a tranche at the SPX 200 sma.
This could be still a wave A in the current corrective wave if so wave C lower lows maybe at the 50% Fib. ?
We shall see …..
LABU thru 80..
buying market here
Dang.. HK pop
just a countertrend, below 7.32
Edxc …nice …
Since I have been talking about selling the last couple days I thought I should “‘fess up” and say I’ve been loading up on TQQQ in the last hour because it bounced off its 200 day MA and I think it’s worth the risk. Please do not follow me, check your own charts and make your own trading decision. I’m just posting so that if I mention in the future that I’m heavy in TQQQ you won’t think I’m lying. And if TQQQ tanks more next week you know I may be “selling low” again with the hopes of buying back in lower.
I will also admit that I even bot some JNUG at $11.85 to $12. I went pretty heavy in my small trading account but light in my retirement accounts.
s’ok..
say 3 Hail Mary’s & 2 Our Fathers
I’m pretty much back to “all in” on TQQQ now (didn’t buy UDOW this time). My “sell low, buy lower” strategy has worked pretty well over the past couple weeks. I lowered my avg cost basis in TQQQ from $175 down to $135 while “eating” only about 1/3rd of that 23% drop in booked losses.
Nice work Steve and thanks for sharing. #WalkThisWay!
again,,impeccable timing.
I did same. But b4 I saw this. #OwnCharts
If JNUG was good at 13 it’s gotta be better at 11.70…just picked some up.
Anybody still holding EDXC with me?
I’ve been in for over a year now 🙂
Hahaha
Still in MBOT?
No – I liquidated the heck out of my account last week. I really hate owning more than 5 maybe 8 stocks, and I had somegthing like 15. When the selling started Friday morning, I needed to clear my head- nothing made sense. MJ stocks down , Miners down, SPX, NAZ, DOW down, everything.
Sold everything but 4 positions
I just sold it now. Thought I had a stop at .98, but I guess not.
Which 4?
I am. Since last year…one of the few green spots for me today.
Bill….. I’m still in for over 3 months now.
Long-term.
Have a good weekend.
THANKS !!!
Yes. I’m green by like $40. Sell now before I lose? What do you think? 1 of only 2 MJs I still own.
Ive been trading it. I keep 1/2 and trade half. When it goes into a range I’ll traded the range. Its been fun
Another spot in TVIX in at $12.11, on break down of flag,
1rst target 12.70, 2nd 13.70. Stop11.90 or close back in flag
Closed at moving average break, near 1rst target.
a run to 245 on the DIA and TVIX could see 9.33 by close
I’m seeing bullish MACD divergences on hourly charts. Small long position.
Right on, its a cash cow last couple days,,lol but id be cautious or out if it breaks 11.83, lower channel around 11.25
and the DIA seems to want to retest 241-242 area
and there it is, 11.25,,and it wont hold if DIA break above 241.07
crikey..whats been going on with SVBL today?
+20% to -15% swing
OSTK goes vertical.. beautiful
Here comes the “moment of truth” for stocks, will they sell off in the last half hour of trading again? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b6e7b0d926bb619c0cd4f0fca50a1eeecfb5d4273885b0e834e0cf6b8b5705eb.gif
242 on the DIA then a run for 245
So far so good. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/51641a057a042b4af707e4a5143d087a652d35dcc923ccb2b96d44babbf62dfa.gif
ES bounce right off 50 fib PB .. let’s see it run up into close for a 1/2 set up into next week …
keeping some LABU SOXL over weekend as closing strong ..
CY, MU nice reversals too ( For semi)
Im mad… I went short CY again today at 15.15 with 2k shares, walked away to make lunch and chop wood, came back to 15.40 LOL – oh well it happens!
Cason are you available?
I’m here now and still around. Sorry, took the afternoon (here) for work and family! Thanks for checking, Ken!
thru 2620 SPX could rip next week (c) wave to 2760’s.. could be interesting
What ? C waves go down. Lol
COT report http://www.cftc.gov/dea/futures/other_sf.htm
Silvers looks impressive, back close to Dec levels as of Tuesday. Maybe now it is.
Trying to hit 300 comments today. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4f86f3e46a2c190e34e05c9c56c5bd34b80b969b4bab435b8b5fa534d7e232ed.gif
that must be a record for CF?
It was. I sure did my part, man!
LOL
2 more comments to go
300!
come on GDX/J let’s see a hammer!
I’m seeing one, and a stop run by GDX.
CRAZY DAY ACROSS THE BOARDS AGAIN
Holy F! That just happened… Way to go GDX! Respectable close after a day of misery, monster tail, and nearly 3x the average volume. I’ll take it.
Just realizing that stockcharts might have the close a little off… regardless, I’ll still take only down -$0.33. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d81563143cba8d8012d2791777c35e780c61a071a4d227eed75e40e975c04e78.jpg
Wait… so confused… does anyone know what GDX closed at? I’m seeing 21.35 and 21.68 pretty evenly across a number of various sites… Fidelity just changed their mind and is now at 21.68… which is a green candle…
i got a close of 21.42.. aftermarket now at 21.57
That’s a pretty candle. Like the reversal off an undercut too. Bought gdxj at the close. Although gdx looks better today, gdxj typically outperforms on the way up.
If they make a swing Monday I’ll prob buy both.
Bt QQQ at the close too.
Nuts!
Lots of oppty here….for.profit and loss!
Well, I already have the loss so now let’s move on to profit….:) 🙂
You’re not the only one…
After today’s SPX low at the 200 sma (which I bought) I am now leaning towards this low as the low of Wave A with B up coming next week and a final Wave C to drop below today’s low.
Again smart money still in Equities not Metals.
Ken, what is your time frame for your A,B,C wave scenario?
Let’s see what next week brings Steve……not even sure wave A down is complete 😉
Big bullish pin bar on high volume,,may grind around or rally out but Id be surprised if this wasn’t the lows. a retest of the 24950 area will tell.
Well a daily buy signal first would be a good start. 😉
What would constitute a daily buy signal for you? That candle today is a daily buy signal for me,,not yet confirmed but bullish in itself. I would like to see sentiment indicators as well after today and follow through but think if we can get through 24200 – 24600 congestion, , a test of Tuesdays high (25250) would be confirmation, but one can take positions long before then or through it as long as he or she has stops. But like the old adage,says,The stock market takes the stairs up and the Elevator down..so anything is possible. I dont hold too many trades long any way and dont sell much in my core IRA either so im ready for either way. Have a great weekend.
I hear you! Still plenty of bearish signals on my daily charts. Would love to see some bullish follow through on Monday. Preferably not a gap up … I hate gaps.
Steve….here is my email address
I prefer to analyze with you privately.
You got 5 minutes lol
Email sent. Check your “spam” box if you don’t see it.
Yep……got it.
Not a bad day or week at all. Thanks CF look forward to weekend comments!
Gdxj practically 31 in AM.
“Fear and Greed Index” for stocks is 8 today. That’s the lowest I’ve ever seen it.
http://money.cnn.com/data/fear-and-greed/
So this is a great buying opp … or the end of the world. Tune in Monday to find out.
Have a great weekend everyone. I need a few drinks! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/62f10070b31660f63d249310492226b42085af9bcb4c1e4e03e35a12e1b2c849.gif
I need a few also……:)
My IRA hated the week, (except for the few stocks bought on sale, and my GSV) but this one was one of my best trading weeks, even surpassing the MJ plays. The volatility made for some great gains. Have a great weekend all.
Personally, I don’t put a lot of value on the “Buying on Weakness” number but thought I’d point out that GDXJ is #2 today and GLD is #7 …
http://www.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2_3022-mfgppl-moneyflow.html
A couple of the FANG stocks (AMZN and NFLX) are also in the top 4 which bodes well for QQQ/TQQQ.
331 comments. Now 332. That’s a new CF record!
You too! I sure am!
I am researching & LOVING what I am finding for the weekend report.
I expect maybe 30+ charts, so I just wanted to let you know that it may take me until tomorrow to finish.
Plus if I write that -we get 350 comments, but it is true, there is So much to dig into 🙂
Thanks CF!! You always go above and beyond for us! Really appreciate your time and dedication!
MariasVacaFund thanx u…. 😀 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fe52e3baa295876fb1265d43afdde02c140860fbbaf3c597a8fcd67f0b12b2dd.jpg
The weekend report has been released 🙂