Nov 9th – Storm Winds In The Future(s)

Sometimes when we are looking out over the horizon, we see what looks like a storm rolling in.  Basically there is nothing that you can do, except to be prepared. It is normal to wonder, “Will the winds of change do a lot of damage?”  “Will they just be a moment of unsettled turbulence with minimal damage?”  “Will we have to pick up an abundance of scattered debris, or will this just pass by?”

We have been taking positions in the Precious Metals markets, so this storm may be just like riding the rapids for most of us,  if things do not change by the morning. The General Markets, on the other hand,  are taking a good hit tonight for those trading in that area. We just have to watch how things settle after the storm surge passes.  Let me show you why…

 

While counting the votes, TRUMP was taking the lead and it looked like he was winning key states. I looked up Gold , which was down about $1.00 one hour earlier, and GOLD reacted this way.  Gold shot up $30 and Silver had already been climbing during the day. The USD dropped like a rock.

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So I started taking a look at the Futures,  and this was a rather unexpected reaction. The dow was down about 500 points at one point, the SPX down almost 70. click to enlarge.

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At this point I’ll say that tonight or tomorrow morning, nothing that I write in the report is going to be particularly eye opening.  I am going to release a few thoughts now, and my biggest recommendation is that we have to see how this plays out after the storm surge of emotions eases up. I gather my charts at night, and I had gathered a couple of charts already.  I will share ideas in this report as a  “Here is where we left off”. 

SPX –  I expected the SPX to rise for maybe 3 days and it stopped right at the 50sma. Lows will be taken out and stops will be run tomorrow if nothing changes.

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WTIC –  I didn’t like the Oil set up, so I avoided it.  It looked like a bear flag at this point.

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  I drew this next chart of Gold thinking that the first question that most would ask is , “If this POP sticks into the open, do we just sell the Pop as an emotional reaction?”   My answer is that coincidentally, we can look at the BREXIT reaction for a possible idea, because the timing is similar.

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GOLD

We were expecting a daily cycle low then, we were expecting a daily cycle low now.  The Brexit Pop shot up and pulled back a bit by the end of the day.  We then saw about a 4 day pause and a continuation higher. The set up is very similar now,  and since we were expecting a DCL and a POP, the move may just stick, pause, and then continue higher.

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So it will be very tempting to sell if this POP stays with us until the open. Maybe selling a partial position would be fine, but I am going to see how things play out.  We have been accumulating positions since early October, however, also consider that this will be day 1 of a 2nd daily cycle. It is not likely to just give up the gains early on.

 

 GOLD LIVE 11 P.M. Eastern time-  It is looking like it is off to the races and will break the overhead trend line soon.

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GOLD 15 minute –  The election results are not final yet. This possible bull flag looks like GOLD  could even propel higher if the results finish as they are currently being recorded ( a Trump win).

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SO WEDNESDAY is going to be a day of emotions and whip saw with whatever the results turn out to be when all is said and done.  It already has been in the futures.   As I write, the above reactions are a result of Trump being ahead late in the Polls. In the Morning, this scene could be the same or different, but it is not likely to be calm yet. I am going to just watch how things play out, and if anything gets beyond my liking, I will step aside and allow whatever happens to happen.   Honestly, at this time, the futures have moved strongly in our favor, since we focused on the ICL in Precious Metals.

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I do have a request for Wednesday.  On crazy days when anything can happen, many times readers will like to ask me questions ( or they ask everyone for an opinion) in the comments section.  I would like to be able to help if I am around.  I have difficulty reading through the comments and finding questions directed to me when I leave for a few hours and return after many have posted the comical avatars and other gifs , etc.  I am not opposed to these and I do find some amusing on an easy, slow,  boring day of trading. On a day like Wednesday may prove to be, I find it hard to surf through all of the comments if I leave and return to many added jokes, so  I often just skim the comments quickly at that point and may miss a few good ones.  Again, on a slow, boring day – no problem, I am probably out riding my bike or getting something done.  On a crazy , important trading day? Maybe we can hold off on filling the comments with these until the markets close on Wednesday.  That way if some readers have serious questions, we can all help each other ride out the storm. At this point, I do think that most of us are positioned to kill it tomorrow if the futures remain the same.  Thanks !

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Best wishes to all, see you in the next report.

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~ALEX

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1 hour later after Trump won Florida.  DOW now down almost 700 /  SPX  down almost 100 / Nasdaq down 215 .Tomorrow  ( Wednesday) is going to be CRAZY!  That Bull flag in Gold will probably push Gold even higher.  Expect Brexit like conditions, I guess.

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144 replies
  1. deshy
    deshy says:

    Alex, Thanks for the report!! Indeed crazy night. If we pop today even if it doesn’t hold this further confirms a RT cycle. However, this late in a cycle I would expect this large bounce to to imply that we are about to start a 2nd DC even though the SL hasn’t happened (I get a lower low from today..I think). Would that be correct? I’m asking because you suggested possibly selling the pop and wonder if I’m missing anything or is that just taking some money off the table?

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      No Deshy,

      I didnt suggest selling the pop at all. What I said is ( Copy / Paste below) …

      So it will be very tempting to sell if this POP stays with us until
      the open. Maybe selling a partial position would be fine, but I am going
      to see how things play out.

      I was using the brexit example to point out that the gains held up. I also mentioned that this would be day 1 of a 2nd daily cycle and not likely to give up the gains.

      Glad you asked in case anyone else was not clear on that.

      • deshy
        deshy says:

        When you re-posted the bite size piece above it seems very clear now. Obviously I’ve joined the twitter age where I can’t read more then 140 characters strung together. lol! Thx again!

  2. Carlnetscouts
    Carlnetscouts says:

    Jeez. I really don’t believe it. I’m not sure the markets can be calmed with this but we’ll see. I had a few sell orders on some gold stocks mainly to redistribute into other gold stocks but I cancelled the orders for now. Assuming Trump wins he isn’t even sworn in until January. What’s going to happen up to then? It sure will be interesting.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Volatility.

      It is a close vote in some areas. Do you remember what happened with other close votes?

      They wanted to do a recount. recount = more volatility.

  3. Cason
    Cason says:

    Alex, I was one that posted I wasn’t adding until we confirmed DCL. Well…how about that! I assume it’s not a good place to add, though? We’ve certainly pulled off of he initial complete crazy from last night. Not sure if that’s a good add or wait 2 or 3 days. Of course, in 3 days we could be even higher (which is why I didn’t touch my core – I listened!).

    On another note, by 4PM should be free reign for Maria and Tammie to post bitmojis, right?

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      I have seen under these circumstances in the past, some Miners gap & run and never close those gaos, others gap open and sell off during the day. They end up down for 2 days slightly, and then move higher.

      That means there is absolutely no way of knowing what your positions will do. When faced with that, I look at the charts.

      We were due for a dcl, this is likely the lows and start of a new daily cycle.

      If I was locked out – Starter position & add on possible gap fill is an option.

      • Cason
        Cason says:

        Sounds great, thanks for your response. I definitely have starter positions so I’m in it to win it this time!

      • chartfreak1
        chartfreak1 says:

        Was it a miss?
        I see AG up 10 % in pre-market at this point.

        I skimmed the ‘highlights’ and read the fluff as

        THIRD QUARTER 2016 HIGHLIGHTS
        (compared to Third Quarter 2015)

        Silver equivalent production increased 27% to 4.5 million ounces
        Silver production increased 20% to 3.1 million ounces – a new quarterly record
        All-in sustaining costs (“AISC”) decreased 27% to $10.52 per payable silver ounce
        Revenues increased 78% to $79.3 million
        Realized average silver price increased 30% to $19.72 per ounce
        Mine operating earnings increased 656% to $20.0 million
        Net earnings increased 556% to $8.1 million (Basic EPS of $0.05)

  4. Glmus
    Glmus says:

    To help Alex, I suggest that if anyone is seeking guidance from him, begin with “For Alex:”. This will make it easier for him to sort for our questions.

  5. Cason
    Cason says:

    For those not sure about oil – pull up 5 day chart of OAS! (I have no position).

    Also – COPPER. OH MY!!

  6. Siva
    Siva says:

    Hi Alex,
    Today everyone is in shock (in the asian markets) due to Trump Victory.
    We are @CF so happy to hold all miners.

    some of my positions are up more than 10% like JNUG up 20% NAK up 20%, AAU up 13% in pre-market

  7. Tammie
    Tammie says:

    Alex, if someone wants to add to positions, is it usually best to jump in pre-market before the doors are open….or wait until doors open? I’m seeing a ton of pre-market trading in some miners, then not so much in others…the ones that have a lot of pre-market trades are likely to have a ton after the doors open, don’t you think?

    • Tammie
      Tammie says:

      AG, HMY, AUY……all have lots of trading going on pre-market…..GPL and others not as much (although they are still up, just not as much volume)

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      It is an unknown. I have seen these events gap open and by noontime, they drift down and close 1/2 the gap.

      Other times I’ve seen these events gap & Run, locking out everyone who was waiting to buy.

      This is one of those times when it is not easy to know in advance how the 1 day move will proceed

  8. deshy
    deshy says:

    Anybody shed some light on RIC? Not getting that warm and fuzzy feeling from them. Yes they do report tomorrow but so do others (and they seem to be joining the party), but not RIC. Yesterday no beuno–down on good vol. Do I bail or wait for earnings report? Last fwd statements had revised guidance up… I said if it ever came back down I’d buy–now I’m experiencing buyer’s remorse. 🙁 Any insider info appreciated;-)

  9. nancytheartist
    nancytheartist says:

    Get ready for the account blast off [if you bought metal positions!] It should be fun even if it pulls back!

  10. Siva
    Siva says:

    PPP is down by 15% is it due to earning? Any one still holding. I had a position long time back @2.60. get out minor loss. Never recovered.

  11. Erik Sven
    Erik Sven says:

    Seeing some ugly black candles here. Should GDX be acting like this if this is the beginning of a new daily cycle? AG looks great though.

  12. dsaulw
    dsaulw says:

    Looks like a successful retest of 1280 for gold, thus far. We’ll see if the stock market starts to resume its selloff.

    • deshy
      deshy says:

      now that’s conviction (given it’s down in an otherwise up market)! I haven’t developed those nerves of steel yet, but hope to one day. 🙂

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Inflation likely – Commodities on fire.

      CLF, VALE, ZEUS, X, AKS, CENX, STLD, FCX, AA, HBM, etc etc on fire the past 3 days.

      I think it’s time for the Miners to catch those bids too

    • Glmus
      Glmus says:

      Yes. I added some more several days ago and today it is dragging me down. I think this is one we are supposed to keep. It looks okay on the weekly chart.

  13. Tammie
    Tammie says:

    Alex, do you think the oil company stocks could be saying that the low is in for Oil? So many of them are up today….?

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      It is possible.

      Oil has an unconfirmed swing, which means that it hasn’t proven itself yet.

      Oil bounced off of the 200sma area, that may be support.

      Wednesday is inventory report for Oil, I missed it , but Oil is higher.

      OAS is breaking to new highs and several energy stocks do look good.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Oil has an unconfirmed swing, which means that it hasn’t proven itself yet.

      Oil bounced off of the 200sma area, that may be support.

      Wednesday is inventory report for Oil, I missed it , but Oil is higher.

      OAS is breaking to new highs and several energy stocks do look good. The choice is yours.

  14. Glmus
    Glmus says:

    The MJ stocks that have been going up like crazy are mainly red today. I think that not all ballot measures passed.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      I noticed many down 20-40% , but the charts themselves are not ‘damaged’.- they just shot up soooo much, they drop in similar manner. That was kind of why I gave a slight warning about them a week ago. I actually think that they will become profitable and out perform in the furture.

      Todays could be the buy the rumor, sell the news (I know that Massachusettes and California passed it). Those often recover later on, when those companies release specific bullish news. So you can keep them on your radar.

    • Dave
      Dave says:

      It’s insane to think that we have had nearly a 1000 point swing in the Dow in the last 12 hours. We were tripping circuit breakers last night…

      It also looks like GLD is working on a bearish engulfing candle that spans the last 7 trading days. Not the follow through I was expecting. Miners appear to be holding up though (for the moment at least).

      • Carlnetscouts
        Carlnetscouts says:

        I do think this is still a black Swan event in favor of gold and miners. It just might take a week or two to register. Even if Trump just pulls out of trade agreements that will be enough to get markets reeling.

          • Tammie
            Tammie says:

            Hey, see gold going up after hours…maybe it will just steadily rise now rather than have the zoom up shock effect like it seemed it might have post election……I’m good with a steady climb…..as long as it’s a climb! 🙂

    • dsaulw
      dsaulw says:

      It sure is strange. S&P may hit resistance at 2160, at least near term, in which case we could see precious metals start to rally again.

  15. Sam
    Sam says:

    Alex – would a reversal into the red on GDX or miners today be worry-some in of its own, or is it more critical to focus on whether we specifically breach specific lower levels?

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      It would normally be specific levels being breached, but I would find it ‘uncomfortable’ if GDX & GDXJ closed green today. Also Gold putting in a new low today would mean that we didnt even see the dcl yet. I thought for sure it was in place after seeing Gold up $50, but making a new low today extends that daily cycle.

      Pretty uncharted waters here.

      And SPY , QQQ, etx look very bullish after filling gaps this morning and taking off higher. The ICL was in place for those and it looks like they held in place during trading hours.

  16. Cal Staggers
    Cal Staggers says:

    Okay, here I go with EW again (we’re in trouble now) – today’s GDXJ 5 minute chart looks like an A down, B up, and C down complete with 5 waves. Is the bottom in?

  17. Ann
    Ann says:

    This spike in interest rates seems a little scary, especially since it began with Trump win(negative reaction) and hasn’t let up all day, even though stock market recovered.

        • R Byram
          R Byram says:

          that’s a scary candle. In 1982/83 when interest rates went to almost 20% (if I understand it right) it was the bond market that took rates there. The fed, for all their meddling lost control of interest rates and debt holders started demanding and getting more. that’s a scary candle

          • Ann
            Ann says:

            I think so too, if it continues tomorrow things could start spiraling out of hand. Seems like foreigners dumping treasuries on Trump win. Needs to stop hemorrhaging.

      • Ann
        Ann says:

        I would think that if treasuries continue to sell off overnight it won’t be market positive, but might get gold going again. Maybe I’m wrong but this move just doesn’t feel right.

  18. walter
    walter says:

    Alex
    what a horrible looking candle in Gold.
    Should have taken profits in miners this morning.
    But how could one know, right?!
    If this American Brexit doesn’t do it, what will?
    Looks like we will have to be patient till Spring 2017?

    • R Byram
      R Byram says:

      After a big journey over a mountain today, gold futures started at 1276 and guess where they are now? 1276 – same
      WTIC: started the day at 44.94 and now it is up a bit at 45.26.
      USD is the one that counts – started the day at 98.08 which was in it’s high range and now is up to 98.54

  19. pankef
    pankef says:

    Yes there have been pockets of strength but overall price action in miners has been awful the past couple of sessions

      • Tammie
        Tammie says:

        I dipped in on one today…..just a toe….don’t want to be too early….but…studying tonight to see what else I might want to get…..I have been totally out of energy so would really like to ride the next wave up….

  20. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    I’m gone for the night – Thanks to all for keeping the main body of this comments section clean and Gif Free today , to make it easy for me to skim. I was in and out all day and it was easy to pick right up where I left off and skim for questions.

    You can do as you wish now, I’m going to dinner.

    CRAZY DAY! Martini anyone?

  21. Tammie
    Tammie says:

    AXU reported after hours….as best I can tell I think it was a decent report…..FSM up nicely after hours…..also KCG, AUY up AH

  22. Tammie
    Tammie says:

    I know the “swing” in oil today didn’t stick/isn’t confirmed – but for future reference…does it have to close over the previous days high or just any time during the day trade above it for it to be considered a swing?

    • Tammie
      Tammie says:

      I was reading that Trump mentioned building up infrastructure when he’s in office….so I took a look at a few stocks…..many the steel, aluminum, copper….etc….type stocks….basic materials…..went way up today….

  23. Cason
    Cason says:

    None of the baby miners have really done the giraffe neck action (NAK)like the closest) but keep going up a few % so starting to build a little profit on each! 🙂 except for TRX, time to get that 1 engaged!

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