Slow Race To The Finish Line
The SPX ( Left Translated) dropped to break the prior lows and then put in a shake out reversal. It has struggled at the 50sma, and now that it faled, I expect it to roll over, possibly after tagging that 50sma again.
USD – Possible swing high? Good for Gold if so.
WTIC – I said that this could form a handle as it hammers out a 1/2 cycle low. Maybe even a bull flag?
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Pure bullishness with that consolidation and break out / back test. I wish I took the trade, but I was focused on Oil & Miners. As I mentioned before, it has been in ‘buy the dips’ mode.
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GOLD – No swing in place yet, but we have one in SILVER & MINERS. Read the chart. $1267.60 is the high to watch.
$1243.20 is the low not to be broken.
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THIS LITTLE RUN DOWN IS TO BUILD CONFIDENCE FOR THOSE THAT MAY NEED A LITTLE MORE REASSURANCE
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Lets just think about this for a few minutes. If you have been subscribed here for at least a few months, you know that I was calling for a dip in Miners when they were near the highs and still making higher lows. You also know that I was saying that $22 was a likely target ( I did widen it out to $22-$25, but had good reason to look in the $22 area). And I said repeatedly that I’d be looking for a low in late September or early October. I then said not to expect a V-Bottom, but we might dance around the 200sma, like the May ICL where price danced around the 50sma. If these things happened, then we should look to find a buying opportunity if these things all come together. So for confidence, we review…
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AUGUST 22nd and Miners were still in an uptrend making higher lows, I was expecting this steep drop to the $200 sma area. We needed to shake out bullish sentiment and make even Gold bulls nervous about buying .
GDX Aug 24 – 2 days later I called $22 and the 50% fib number as a good area to start buying if things played out correctly. By that, I mean cycle timing, a deep enough dip, fear, etc. I first expected another run higher as shown on this chart ( L.T. Daily cycle to suck the bulls in for the slaughter) and that would look like a H&S drop to the 200sma.
That H&S type drop to the 200sma has now occurred.
GDX OCTOBER 10 – I then said that we might want to expect price to linger at the 200sma , just like it did at the May ICL ( see the blue circles). People then looked at the May ICL and laughed a bit and thought, ” I would buy the heck out of that easy to see bottom! It was obvious that a low was forming.” 🙂 Well, we have the same formation now , not so easy to buy, right?
NOTE TO SELF: In “Real Time” – Emotions, News events, Fear of the unknown, Negative News Articles and write ups about the C.O.T. levels and supply and demand, Janet Yellen, etc etc etc play into your decisions.
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Flash forward
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So even some bulls are thinking … ‘Now we lost the uptrend and we lost the 50sma, and the 50sma is curling down, we are making lower lows. This feels wrong and the BGPDM is showing how Miners are losing the 50sma and 200sma and the C.O.T. is ugly. This is bad.“. SO they become nervous and even a bit worried, bears become emboldened and start drooling over short positions and buying DUST / JDST, PUTS, etc. And we don’t see much real buying in Miners yet, we see fear. 
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GDX OCT 13 – Not many people are buying it, are you? If not, that’s fine, we didn’t get a confirmed swing low until we get a close above the 10sma, but if you do not want to buy yet, then you see the truth of the story. People are waiting for the bottom to fall out. They are nervous. “That Janet Yellen can’t be trusted”. There are a million reasons why this could drop further. That is good,we want negative sentiment and a tough to buy low. Cycle timing tells us that we are either at a DCL or even better, an ICL. If this rolled over and broke down now, we’d be on day 30 and it would likely just be a quick shake out. GDX remains oversold.
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We each have our own trading style, methods, precautions, risk assessment, and so on. I encourage the reader to be comfortable entering when they are ready, and waiting for a confirmed low – a close above the 10sma is safer, but I wanted to show that we are getting late in cycle timing and the above little review is a confidence booster that we are getting exactly what I expected. So yes, there are always risks and unknowns that can morph or change things, but timing is showing us that this snail is about to cross the finish line and the race to the bottom looks to be ending.
No doubt about it, buying or adding on a Friday is even tougher, so the question for some are – Start a position? Add to a position? Wait to do your shopping next week , since there is plenty of time if this is an ICL forming? It’s up to you, but being here you have a lot of extra information to help you make your personal trading decisions. Thanks for being here at Chartfreak! Enjoy your Friday and weekend. If the lows are confirmed as being in today, we will focus on lower risk set ups & entries for Miners next week. 
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Alex, thanks for the report. I have been adding since last Thursday. Almost all in.
I really think that we are close ( Or even that the lows are in on GDX). It is tough to call the lows when price just bounces around and doesn’t move higher with conviction, but all things are adding up.
I am heavily invested too at this point.
Thx Alex.. I am 80 percent long now and will top it off today. Even NAK reversed and that’s my 2nd largest miner in the spec group. I have no issues with drawdowns so my stop is 19.50 GDx. Ty for your guidance.
I won NAK too ( from core holdings I own NAK & TRX, and both were kind of lingering at the lows lately).
When I see that I try to go to the 2 yr weekly chart and see if it still looks ok, that helps. Then that NAK reversal yesterday at least showed some resilience is there and when these smaller Juniors get moving, they can make 10% gains each day, so I’m hopeful!
Note to self: “hopeful is not a trading plan by itself ” : )
NAK and VGZ green Today, most other miners red.
That’s hilarious. Hopeful has been my trading plan for years! 😛
I’m in NAK too…still red but improving.
I bought JNUG last Thursday, $9.70. So far it hasn’t gone lower. Holding nicely.
so did I ( Shhh – I do not encourage trading 3x etfs ) : )
oh, https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5a31ae575f27b8607c472c4d66043649f80ea1f39ed130fa457eab0ea9f3a952.jpg you little rascal.
Right, in no way am I recommending anyone else take these trades.
Ahh…my avg share price, unfortunately, is much higher than that. But if we get to $20 it won’t matter a bit!
I added more this week, so at a higher price for the total holding. I like $20 and it won’t matter at all if you buy at $10 or $12. Good Luck
Yeah, I broke down at $16 and got some JNUG….shouldn’t have broken my rule of not trading leveraged funds….holding til I get it all back…looked so good at $16 compared to the $24 or whatever it was….
Same. I only have a few 1/2 positions to add at this point.
If we get a strong breakout that we can add to, may rotate energy plays to miners, if that presents itself. But about as heavy as I want to get without some serious gains to back it up.
I sold all my energy stocks except UWTI. I was thinking the SPX was headed lower and afraid the stocks would follow lower. I kept the base commodity thinking it wouldn’t matter. We’ll see. still holding.
when is GDX going back to 25. thanks
I couldn’t agree more! And I might add that the sentiment for gold and taking this trade feels VERY much like the trades we took in oil — and for me in Natty – a couple weeks ago. So much chatter and uncertainty and then BOOM! All I can say is that turtle morphs into a cheetah pretty darn fast.
Likewise Crystal. I have been buying since last Friday. I wish I had the guts to go all in, but I am very happy to have a good chunk of money invested. Most of my mistakes have been when I have decided that it is time for the market to do this or that and have dived in. The best are when I look at each individual stock and buy when it is either coming out of a dip or powering higher with volume.
Thanks again Alex for your ability to “see around corners” and to share it with us, despite all the odd behavior and other belly-laugh stuff that goes on here at times.
Define odd …..
So the question is, ” What’s in your portfolio?” Hopefully, it is more than the blanks my Nats had.
Are you saying that you had some Natgas stocks that under performed?
I was watching XCO & CHK and thinking they were not following NATGAS, but we rode CHK here in AUG / SEPT for some nice gains, and now it actually looks like it may be ready to go again.
Alex, Sorry for the confusion. It was a reference to my baseball team, and their loss to the Dodgers last night.
LOL – Maybe I should have known. Sometimes When I say SOX, I mean Redsox, sometimes I mean Semiconductors.
Boo Dodgers!!
Alex, Are you not worried that the last IC in gold was left translated? thanks
Hi Sarah,
That is actually an excellent question. It has been on my mind, but I am not overly concerned at this point in time. Watching how things progress will allow me to see any weakness ahead of time.
Could it be a warning? Yes, I also ask, ” Would we still rally convincingly out of the lows when an ICL is in place?” Yes , for at least a month or so. Remember that even in the bear market rallies, a move out of the ICL paid off nicely in the first and part of the 2nd daily cycles. To me, that means right now taking the trade is a worthwhile decision.
This is also the reason that I wonder if we will have an ICL here, or a DCL and another daily cycle in Nov to an ICL? I lean towards this being an ICL at this point, but I will keep an eye on things.
I think that I will cover this more in the weekend report- thank you for mentioning it .
HI Alex
do you pay attention to morning futures activity on gold? yesterday and today, there seems to be a large volume dump of contracts to drive the price of gold down. Do you think this is indicative of a stop run?
Frank – You’re a mind reader . Yes, I do think it could be a form of stop run / shake out
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I was JUST about to post this…refresh ( click to enlarge) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9cd8b5721adde004f5e8f3c8b934e914c217e16cc1b13e64f4846b177c8e8e3a.jpg for a chart
We also had Retail Sales #s as well as a number of large banks reporting in pre-market (in usual thin trading). Also, metals pits open btw 8:10-8:30 prior to the NYSE/NAZ, etc. so this is pretty common. But works in our favor a lot as Alex has stated.
Alex, Was there an undercut low in gold this morning, meaning that the count has been reset??
I did not think that it went that low.
$1243.20 was the lowest low , today I didnt think it broke $1246.90
I was looking at Investing.com. Maybe they are wrong.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/aa685ebcd1bb78bdf8e8b317876ddf609404e2fb6098d72d81c8217c54767d5f.jpg
yeah, I dont know whats up with them, but someone using that site yesterday also got bad numbers. I had 3 other charting services getting different numbers.
Even if you scroll up and take a look at the KITCO live gold feed that I have attached to this website, Gold never broke $1245
hmmm.
Yeah, their candle from last Friday the 7th doesn’t seem to be acurrate. I checked at pmbull.com and am showing the same data as CF has.
Stockcharts and Investing[.com] have two different candles for gold on the same day, fromearlier in the week. oh well.
Rosengren spoke today – said it’s possible they may have to raise rates faster than they’ve projected because he thinks unemployment rate is going to fall – so dollar is up, gold is down – wish one of these FED president’s was an uncle of mine so I could know their speech ahead of time – would be good for a little profit….would that be insider trading? It’s not like the FED is a company with stock….
Tammie, any thoughts on the dollar chart? The one above in the report – I see higher highs and higher lows… GULP!
Yes, I’ve been watching that too…..a little concerning…but then I thought, ok, look at the 50 day and 200 day averages and it is stretched over those – and since the beginning of the year it has spent more time under the 200 than over it – looking at a longer term chart makes me feel better because it still is under the highs of Jan, Feb., and March – But….I could see it still rising here in the near future because of the other currencies that make up the dollar index – as long as the pound, yen, and euro move down, not sure how dollar can go down….and with the Brexit thing messing with the value of the currencies who knows what direction those currencies might go…1 day up, 2 days down, 2 days up, 3 days down……roller coaster 🙂 I told myself a few weeks ago to just stay out of the market and not buy til after the elections….instead I jumped in too early….go figure….:P
Alex, thank you for mentioning the swing low in place for silver. I am building a position in SLV in my long term holding account. Always appreciate your analysis of silver price action.
I love it when they have the 8:30 slam down in Gold by the way. Miners open down and often climb to green and as the buying momentum gradually picks up, we do not have to worry about coming back and filling a gap later.
Yep. BUT…one day early next week would like a gap n’ go! (and Go and Go and Go…)
Here it comes. Le Breakout?
WHAT IS IT!!!!!
LOL..just looking at the 5 minute..big jump..sorry. No insider info here. 🙂
I was with ya on that…
All my Miners went green pretty rapidly
Listening to Genesis “Follow you, follow me” before leaving for work. seriously, I am
Wow, Thats an old flash back – memories of calmer days
Cue Get Ready for This (since it Is baseball playoff season;)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_Ready_for_This
It’s not playoff season anymore. Nats got eliminated last night. Grr……!!!
I know …. that was painful!
Crystal.. i sold PGH.
dont like the look of it here.
breaking down below some indicators.
might re-enter if it breaks out to the upside
With the general market broadly higher today, was hoping that it would drag energy with it as well. 🙁
SBGL, GSV, SWC, NSU, TRQ and a few others went green by more than 2 % so far
TGD, MUX too
VGZ started hot and dipped – might be a good spot to add. I only have a 1/2 position and am looking to add to that one. I love the cup n’ handle/rounded bottom chart from this week (Tue or Wed report). That was HOT! I bet Maria loves it too!
Not sure why FSM is dropping like a rock but geez ……!
All my stuff is starting to slip now. Getting ready to shut down computer and try again on Monday! Fri afternoon usually bo-ring anyway.
FSM is down almost 5% compared to others that seem to be only down 1-2% – not sure if it is just one that has exaggerated moves or what….grrr….was already at a loss in it since I bought at wrong time….it’ll be saved if this is really a bottom in gold and silver here ….if not, well shoot.
SOG, you broke PACD!
looks that way.
but….i sold that muther yesterday… bought GSV instead..
that was cool 🙂
GSV up 6% on good volume. The rest of the metals are not so great.
They had good news released yesterday – that looks like a good break out on the chart.
Grains in a wave 3 of 3. Very nice. 🙂
I just looked over my shoulder and noticed a few Canadian oils breaking to new highs – AAV (trades in the US too and is THE low cost gas producer in Canada) Also PPY and RRX. I own 2 of 3
Very nice ( AAV)
So apparently we should only own energy stocks where the tickers first 2 letters are the same?
AAV
PPY
RRX
yes yes
REN up 8% today –
more than 600% up since Alex told to buy it
Look at that chart just from July onward. I did not ride that train out of the station.
ok, gone from dissapointed to annoyed to now I’m just angry. I’m out.
out of the miners or just outta here?
Just market for today. CF has helped a lot with emotion management and psychology. So, at least able to keep from anger/fear selling. Golly in the past might have not only sold but gone short. Anyway, just took some time away, didn’t sell my miners.
Disappointed that I let my energy gains slip away mostly.
It’s the dollar rising because the other currencies in the dollar index are falling…..if I go short something I’ll help you out because then everything will start to go up….:): 🙂 Yeah, I told myself 3 weeks ago to stay out til after elections…but I didn’t listen to myself….got in much earlier than yesterday (should have waited for CF go signal instead of thinking I might get left behind!)….. so am riding out a number of red positions…..that just got redder..
miners getting a bit less red now..
hoping that was just a mini wave 2 pullback following the wave 1 off the bottom.
if not,.. could be Ken’s wave 5 down to completion
I was thinking that too ( The first turn up off of the bottom being mini wave 1, and this drop is 2, then we want to see a nice 3 up please).
Hope it’s “mini”. Sure wouldn’t have wanted to waste Wave 1 on this price action so far!
Euro is near long-term support around 1.10 now – we shall see if it holds.
Yeah, I’m in the red on many. Not by a lot. I was about at breakeven yesterday and then…ugh
I have a decent little bit of ground to make up……:(
Yeah, I saw some of your earlier posts. I do like JNUG at $10.4 as long as GDX/J don’t break to new lows. You could buy here with tight stop on the new purchase only which protects you from doing worse but doesn’t risk your current positions. If we scream higher, you have a lower price point. Just an option since we’re really only an few pennies from recent lows.
Yes,….I’ve been thinking about averaging down…..the thought of $5 JNUG has just stopped me….hahahaha…..but….it probably would be a smart thing to do….
Exactly what you should feel at bottoms. Hang in there.
Trying. Not. Easy.
Dollar dropping……….#Yellen
… and some swing lows now in 30min miners charts.
Did she speak? i stepped out for a couple of hrs
I heard she was speaking, don’t know if she’s done blabing away
She’s talking about running the economy “hot” or high pressure I think everyone is wondering what that means —
From the WSJ
“In all, market analysts are likely to interpret her comments as “dovish,” meaning supportive of low rate policies. Most Fed officials at their September meeting expected the central bank to raise its benchmark federal-funds rate by 0.25 percentage point at the December policy meeting, but to proceed slowly toward further interest-rate increases after that”
watching this crucial indicator DT line for DUST.. (1hour chart for past month)
if this breaks out.. im buying a miners hedge! 🙂
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Overall price chart looks like a rounding top.
yeh.. there was negative divergence too, for the top at 51.35
hoping its just gonna fall away from here
Looking at TGD — it has held up well today 🙂 VGZ is good too. NAK up 2.5%
And NAK, GSV, SWC, NSU, .. But it was still just another boring day : (
I know, I bought a few shares of JNUG at the EOD just for some excitement
oh yes, that’ll wake you up! ( And maybe keep you up at night). 🙂
Lets see how it looks at the end of next week – It just has to be higher by then .
Exactly
We’ve got 15 minutes left until the close. How about a little buying frenzy, huh?
Hope this doesn’t happen but sure is what it feels like!!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d421718e26182b737551d4f342066decbcb17262e4d7ed0eddf026c63afcf196.png
hahaha! very cute.
I agree….came back to yet another day of red added on red! My account has dropped more than in a very long time. Week after week. Time for a drink! I bought some wonderful coconut rum while cruising’ so I think I will make a concoction with that. Enjoy your beer just don’t make it salty with your tears! LOL
I’ve had to move on to Vodka…
My GDX OCT 6th Chart. is attached. Still could happen, timing allows it.
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Looks like I will finish 1.7% down for the day at 20% invested with a swoon at the end. Although I hate holding weekends, the bottom should be nigh.
Have a great weekend folks.
ouch! …..TRX there’s a wave 5
As much as I grumble, I’m not really down much in most of my new purchases. EXCEPT TRX. Early. Oops.
That DUST hedge play into the bottom really helped.
thats the problem after a steepish tumble.
even buying a breakout on the MACD etc.. that wave C5, or the 2 of a new wave up can phoookkk you up real bad if youre a bit early
Have a good weekend all!
..and you CF Alex!
You too!
hi why do you think miners bottomed? seems like more downside thanks
Did I say they did? They are Bottoming, may have bottomed, and why do you think more downside?
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=%24BPGDM it has more room to the downside. maybe i have been reading too many bearish posts
Oh, Ok, I see you are looking at the BPGDM and see that at 17, it has more downside.
I will address it in the report and that report will be released soon tonight.
Thanks Todd
Portfolio have you down today? I have the perfect solution. *Refresh* https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6c782e33644739bd7908cff83ba50248016d320166e7c1cccef506a3e038af3e.png
LoL.. not you as well
where do you get these lame cartoons from?
and where’d Mamia disappear to today?… presume she stuck at work.
She is slacking BAD! Someone had to pick up the mantle!
Ohhhh comeee onnn… i was out one freakn day…cant a girl take a break? 😀 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ad92c79988c597889d79a629aa89b3d627cd690067d083c279a98e5ad4a815fc.png
You can! That’s why I swooped in to square you away!
Actually it’s not as bad as I thought with Yellen yapping on a Friday afternoon …. the fact that Alex’s 1243 was not breached warrants a “cheers” from me! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fbf7c350ed5ad47e6bfd7aa83c1c511ccd0b3613e926385da917d6cacdfdc0c4.jpg
This week’s COT release. Remember, this is as of Tuesday but really most of the damage was done by then (low was last Friday 7 Oct for gold spot price). But this bottom has really drug on so I could see the “Open Interest” lower. Remember, this is a decent confirmation tool but not particularly good for timing, esp. with 3x ETF.
COT is pretty much where the May ICL was. WAY above the Jan lows, but now that we are in a bull (still with that thesis unless we get a lower low) this changes – I don’t expect to test that level. BUT the BPGDM – bullish percentage – I posted last night was much lower. The open interest as dropped sharply for 2 weeks and the commercials have covered. This is exactly what you want to see. Just another clue. Regardless of my ranting, I still think Alex is on to something here. I remain long miners.
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I meant to post this earlier just to illustrate how flat the week really was. Here are the opening futures values for each day Monday through Friday:
USD: 96.52, 96.93, 97.52, 98, 97.63
WTIC: 49.57, 51.10, 50.84, 50, 50.85
Gold: 1258, 1261, 1254, 1257, 1259
What made it even more boring is Maria was MIA today.
Giggle… tough crowd this investment forum…catwoman…..no catwoman…….catwoman….. no catwoman…
Catwoman…yeah..catwoman 😉
Welcome back Maria. Its just not the same when your away.
Ain’t no sunshine when she’s gone! 🙂
Lol 🙂
I’m hoping the good news of the week is that we were buying when everyone was fearful: Yellen and Friday combined did not make for a day when money was anxious to go into anything. I’m only down a fraction from what could have been some great buys this week and have high hopes for Monday – I’ll be trying Delta’s in-flight internet connection on Monday for the first time trading in the air – a new mile high club experience!!!
Meow
For anyone interested in TGD, this is a recent interesting article with a positive stance. It also discusses the positive effect interest rates can have on $GOLD. http://microcapspeculation.com/tgd-1014-update/
Nice write-up as usual I’m still trying to get over the 30% drop in one of my largest positions TAYD on Friday