Oct 6th – A Closer Look
Today I want to take a closer look at Oil and Gold.
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WTIC – Oil made a new high today. Some of the trades mentioned here in the past few weeks are actually near new highs again or breaking out. Read the charts. I continue to like the Energy trades and I believe that pullbacks can be bought. Usually I would expect the $50 area to offer some selling resistance, so maybe we get some pull backs to buy in Energy soon too.
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GOLD and MINERS
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A quick look at Gold shows that we have eased the chances of putting in a swing low. At day 23, we are within the timing for a DCL. The selling has been serious enough to become an ICL. A break above $1279.40 is a swing, but a safer confirmation would be a close above the ( I am changing it to) the 8 sma. I usually use the 10sma, but it is so much higher due to the steepness of that candle from Tuesday.
I did want to point out that Gold could conceivably drop even lower next week like we saw in May as shown here.
It may or may not happen here, but I pointed it out because we are on day 23, and another week would lead us to day 30. That is possible.
Even so, buying here paid off later with 6 straight weeks higher. BUT…
GOLD WKLY – At 2 of the ICL’s pointed out in 2015, I just wanted to show that we didn’t see Gold shoot straight up out of the lows. This allows traders time to watch miners begin ‘setting up’ and also one could look for divergence, etc.
MINERS– In this chart that I posted in August, I was pointing out how the recent steep looking sell off below the 50sma might be similar to the 2008 sell off below the 50sma. I pointed out that the selling in August might only be part one. After a bounce, another sell off would take us to the buy-able lows ( DCL / ICL). See MAGENTA WRITING.
We now have that 2nd sell off after the break under the 50sma and the bounce in August. So we are on day 23, and that is also within the timing for a DCL. GDX actually reversed on support of the 200sma. Seems too easy, right? Please read the chart.
Notice on the ABOVE chart that the ICL (lows) in May pulled a reversal at the 50sma, and then spent 5 more days at the lows ( breaking through the lows too). If we spend 5 days at these lows, do you know what you will hear? Do you remember what we heard in May? We heard, “I think that’s a Bear Flag, this is going to drop!” It’s never easy to buy these lows, but it pays off in the long run if we remain in a bull market. 🙂
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I want to re-post a couple of charts from yesterdays report as reminders, since they are still valid.
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GDX – I want to remind us what we saw in July. Today we got a sideways type of move too. On day 23, we do still have time to dip lower, but things look favorable for producing a swing low similar to the one in May too.
GDX – With this chart, I pointed out here that price may linger near the lows like we saw in the blue box, or it could continue lower for a bit. Due to cycle timing, I honestly do think that adding a few small positions to Miners in this area should be fine in a week or two, but as mentioned in yesterdays report – some cannot stomach watching their accounts lose money. Know who you are and trade according to your own trading style.
GDX – These are 2 newer charts that show why possible further downside is possible if we dont get a swing low in place Thursday.
#1 – An equal sized drop to the one in August would have further downside and lead it to the 50 weekly MA. So we could continue to drop into next week.
#2 – This candle looks good breaking through and then re-gaining the 200weekly MA, but a 50% drop from the top would lead to that $ 21-$22, and the 50 weekly MA also.
Conclusion: I do believe we are close to, if not already at , a bottom that offers some good trades. You can see that when the ICL is in place ( And I do think that we may be seeing one form here) the upside lasts for weeks and months. Even a final daily cycle low should also see some upside for 8-13 days. So at this point, each person must decide for themselves, which one of these statements fits me best. Be honest.
#1. ” I do not like risk or experiencing draw-down, so I will wait for further confirmation of a low and a bit more upside before entering a position. I dont care if I miss the very bottom when there is plenty of upside available.”
#2 ” I want to take a couple of positions in Miners, because I think that we are either at or could be near the lows. I realize that if Miners do form a lower low from here, I will experience losses until the lows are in place and the rally out of the lows begins.”
Its really just as simple as that. I do not use tight stops in this case, because I expect that wiggles could happen and I expect a low soon due to the cycle timing. I do not use leverage at this point without a confirmed ICL, and I don’t go “All in”. I am still in a few energy trades and will either continue to ride those out, or I will flip the funds over to precious metals, depending on how things play out.
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FOR NOW, we need to continue to watch how Gold, Silver, and Miners sell off. Will the recent lows hold? Will yesterdays highs be taken out, putting a swing in place? Will it continue higher and break above and close above the 8 sma? These are road signs for buying near the lows, and I will have some chart set ups when they begin to form in a more low risk manner. Lets see what Thursday brings our way. Happy trading!
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~ALEX
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A heads up FYI … Brainard is giving a speec tomorrow in DC, but it’s not until 4pm. Not sure if that will have much impact given the timing.
The minutes are released on October 12 – how does that timing work for a final drop if the swing low doesn’t confirm before then?
TRX 🙂
I was thinking maybe jobs report Friday, but Oct 12 works for the timing too
Thanks you Alex for your incredible insight and thoroughness. Two questions could you explain how you derived the swing low of 1279.40 in gold. (I’m familiar with swings on trend lines but am looking for the correlation here.) Also what would the swing low in GDX be (price/sma) assuming it were to happen today? thanks!
There is no swing low in place – I was showing the parameters used to see if we get one. Todays drop breaks the parameters.
You watch the sell off and the “POTENTIAL” swing would be the lowest point of the sell off, but you have to wait for confirmation before calling it an actual swing low ( It is just a new low until that days highs are taken out upside)..
We do not currently have a swing low in Gold or Miners. The charts were showing the guidelines for putting swing in place. Each time a new low is set, the swing has to wait another day.
I dont know if what I am saying is understandable, but I hope that helps a bit.
“An observation only!”. The USD is nearing the upper trend line of the flag pattern. I suspect we get a touch and reversal, perhaps the low in miners happens today? Maybe? F5 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b01f09c28ce7ec44531bdea062524b6b7129f463371c19db14a783bc47a25e43.jpg
I was looking at the USD last night and it has a bullish look to it. My weekly chart still shows where it could roll over later, but it looked oddly bullish on the short term daily.
Your thoughts of possible resistance & roll over is possible too.
If I lay the chart pattern from the start of the pennant over the current consolidation? Viola! This could be it? If it breaks higher, we could see some real confusion and panic. “just one mans opinion”
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/R36Apx64/
When I look at your chart, even a pop to 97 and then roll over and fail ( false break out) would be fine with me, and would possibly cause some confusion for gold bulls. “just another mans opinion” 🙂
For sure! 😉
I can see your AB=CD pattern playing out perfectly to match your $22 call. A break above the upper pennant trend line would have all of it come together. So hard not to by JNUG here at $10.21. Easy double from here, even if it draws down for a few days.
That was almost like reading my mind. The JNUG thinking. SCARY, but I dont want to look back later when it’s at $30 and say, ” I should have at least thrown something at it” 🙂 Maybe I’ll take the $11.50 to $45 run – lol
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Who’s quiting?
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Read your post
oh .. some other guy ifollow.. he let the trolls get to him and quit…
Hey, Where was this? That was a nice thing for that person to say.
…annnd i just saw another post .. he posted a link to your public report…
hmmm… it’s u isnt it .. lol
I don’t know who it is. What was his name? Email me if you wish.
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i like how the peaks of the bull are exactly opposed to the troughs of the bear
Oooops. $GC just cratered again. As the report says got to focus on breathing deeply. Good news is the more it caves the more I get the sense we’re at an ICL and not just a DCL.
Yes, so when I see GLD sell off again, and take out the lows of yesterdays small doji type candle, I scroll up to the reports gold weekly charts and re-read what is written there.
NOTICE that MA acted as resistance on the way down in the bear market, we could get a back test all the way down to that number. If not this week, it could be a low for next week.
This is why it is safer to wait for a swing low and confirmation. The selling in precious metals can be steep, and we could be making money in energy during golds sell off instead 🙂
Hey Rob, How’s it going. long time , no correspondence. Hope all is well.
All is well, just busy at work, which is good. Hope you are well too
On the road for a couple of days so only have my phone….really miss my two big screens! Hard to keep track of things this way….don’t want to do much before employment report tomorrow anyway but want to have some trades ready….
I – HEAR – YOU! So hard to chart the specific stocks that you may be stalking
And thanks to everyone for the advice on my wifi connection. I still cannot get a connection, but I’m using my phone as a hotspot in the meantime.
Today’s lower low in Gold has surprised me. I thought we were off to the races yesterday, near close. I am holding tight with my miners and going to ride this bull to hopefully make a few 5-baggers.
Yes, If we remain in a bull market for precious metals, the gains should be crazy good.
I look at charts of AG and CDE and think to myself that when these were up near $18, I would have given anything to get another opportunity like this. I can easily see AG going from $8 to $16+ and beyond now, but the fear of lower prices is always there to keep me from buying heavy positions.
I keep telling myself that after an ICL, I’ll take the $9 – $18+ run 🙂
MUX is a good buy from here too. Many small cap miners have had a 50% haircut. I am thinking of adding on a swing low, maybe tomorrow.
Agree Rob. I like MUX,
This was what I/we wanted to see and have been waiting for right ?
Adding again on a daily swing…….
BUT gold did just touch the 200 sma as Alex predicted in one his his great charts over the past few weeks/months. So I guess surprised by Alex’s expectations. 🙂
#GetARoom
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She only comes out at night? Can’t be Maria!
Rob has been my buddy from The Great White North since ???? LONG time now,
this i know…. uve spoken about ur bromance oh idk … 855 times now….
🙂
Alex, from your experience, can you say to buy the golds with the largest drawdowns from the recent highs or the relatively strongest ones?
I go by chart patterns and set ups, but I have seen both do excellent.
Miners tend to get thrown away fast when they sell off, but they can also get scooped up equally fast, as long as the company isnt fundamentally dying.
Lots of miners looking good here,,ASM,AXU,HL,HMY and others, near support,
Trying my best not to read too much into it…but here in the Great White North GPL has all ready traded more than it’s daily volume and is up a couple of ticks ($silver down)…:-))
I love that
And AGI looks good too
AGI – strong reversal at the sept 1st lows
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Oil running again…..wave 4 may Not correct back down to upper TL, too deep.
That is just fine with me…. 🙂
meanwhile CENX just keeps moving higher – relentlessly…
MAny of those commodity stocks are doing well with the markets doing nothing.
Tomorrows ER will most likely be a key turn date in metals…..amongst other commodities and the USD.
Another day where my Energy stocks are acting like a hedge for the miners selling off.
🙂
Yesterday SALT and SBLK looked good.
Today GNK ( wow) and FRO
Twitter down 18%……..google backing out possible now.
Heavy volume, back into that Gap. Glad none here “bought the news”
Hey Alex? What is your criteria for confirmation of ICL before you try to go all in for miners? A break of intermediate downtrend line?
Hi Frank
I usually byuy the lows pretty heavy after a sell off like this one has been, once we get a swing in place. I will ride it and watch it, and yes – A break of the intermediate down trend line is a great indicator that an ICL was left behind.
I’m thinking MUX is being unfairly treated! I’m going in to help out that McEwan guy. He’s given lots away to charity all ready so I’ll pick up a couple of hundred shares today so he doesn’t have to worry about where his next meal comes from. 🙂 Holding nose…
lol
ILoveRob
*NOTTTTT rob in our blog that’s tryn 2 tarnish my squeaky clean reputation
GROSS
No not him…the other one. Got it! 🙂
Currently my Energy hedge isn’t doing the trick anymore : )
Couple of dogs for me today: AREX QEP
Winners: BAS PDS
Not too bad overall…..
Expecting a pull back soon though……
Energy stocks leading to the downside while oil powers over $50. What? Sounds like it is signaling a few $$ retrace in crude, eh?
Miners that start with a T are doing ok so far – TMM/TGD, TMQ, TRQ
I was watching divergence form on the GDX 15 minute chart, but thats not good for anything but a bounce,.
Then I saw divergence on the 3 minute charts
Today on the new lows on the hrly charts.
THAT is usually a good sign that these lows will not hold for long- at least a good bounce is coming
Gold is being very reactive to the wiggles in the USD right now. If the $ comes off, it seems like gold might want to run
Did you get a BUY yet on your famous GDX signals.
that’s funny …i was jusssst thinking about his indicator this very moment
*goFigure
HFT
You guys all let me know when you do, right?!
I went LONG JNUG Yesterday afternoon. $9.70/ share I am willing to take a drawdown if the selling continues Monday and Tuesday. I don’t want to miss the move out of these lows. Could be explosive. Good luck
Has anyone mentioned GV?
good catch – nice volume.
Agree. Great call.
I looked at the website – part of the business model is to provide disaster recovery services for power transmission lines, fiber optics etc. I took a position.
This company is energy & also operates as a real estate developer of residential properties on the east coast of Florida.
I think the hurricane is going to drum up a lot of business.
Thanks.
thank u encyclopediaBritannica
uh oh, we are booked for a trip to Myrtle Beach and Charleston in 11 days. Mathew looks nasty.
Should have bought some GNK when Alex mentioned it 3 hours ago.
w .. o … w
dunno what it was at when Alex mentioned it.. but can you jump in on sumthin when its already up 10-20%? …. i jus find it too hard, always expecting it to drop & instantly leave me in the red 🙂
Algriculture is getting my attention currently. Interested ?
damnnn oil is hot …
Ja Mon 🙂
3 of 3
yupper 😉
Too bad no one is interested in the agriculture set up …. oh well……
well…. if i had ur deeeep pockets …… 😉
pacd should be gettn ready to explode pretty soon here…….
Yep
Even the ones that were on the edge of bankruptcy will do very well in this current wave.
Should be a very good harvest. 😉
well.. as soon as the oil vine stops producing succulent grapes …… maybe ill rotate crops…;)
😉
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I was checking out Sugar this morning. SSG looking HOT!
weat my have bottomed
AAV today broke out above all resistance back to 2009.
I hope a few were able to follow me and at least hedge with DUST/JDST. Man, that trade sure worked out. My ‘core’ add to EXK fired yesterday and I manually added even more to BTG today. Sold DUST at the close so that I didn’t have extra risk going into Jobs Friday. I then added 1/4 position in JNUG. But it’s small, enough that if we go down even 10-15% that I’m fine with it. If we start to scream higher then I have a little bit at the low and plenty of time to add.
Currently: EXK, BTG, MUX. Stalking: SA, SAND, TRX, AUMN