Fed Wednesday Again
Lets discuss Fed Wednesday
Nothing really changed for the SPX Tuesday. I am expecting a break one way or the other , and I would think that the FED Decision should give the SPX a push ( I am expecting a break Higher).
I’m just re-posting the Oil chart from Tuesdays report, because nothing really changed. We are another day into the daily cycle and cycle timing is acceptable for a low. We would look for confirmation with a break above the 10sma ( and a close preferably). The Inventory report comes out at 10:30 and this could cause a break out or a break down followed by a directional move.
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GOLD – What else can I say about Gold? Please feel free to go through the last several reports and see what I have been pointing out. I want to do something different today. I researched the past Fed Day moves in Gold this year and found that basically anything can happen, including a realistic POP & DROP. Lets go to the charts.
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I thought that it might be beneficial to look at the last several FED day reactions. This shows how tricky this day can be.
1.Look at June 15th in the middle of the chart below. That was a Fed Day and Gold spiked to $30 up to $1318, and then dropped back to close at the lows of $1280. That was a $38 point daily swing all in one day, and then Gold then dropped from there for over a week.
2. March 16 also spiked a lot higher and gave it up, dropping for over a week.
3. April 27 Gold surged for 2 days and then dropped for weeks into an ICL. These were all Fed Days.
My point? I have been mentioning that we have not had an ICL type of sell off in the past few weeks in Gold, and we are now due for one. I have pointed out for months that we should be due for one at the end of Sept / early October. This means that even if Gold pops and you decide to take a trade, you need to use stops and even raise them after a day or two to hold some kind of gains. We have seen these initial POPS roll over and drop for days in the past.
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GOLD could get a small Fed Day pop and drop to an ICL like this.
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Gold may look convincing like it did on April 27 and still roll over into an ICL. I didn’t expect new highs, but it actually happened in April right before dropping to an ICL. THAT was tricky.
GOLD $1270 – At this point I have to still expect that a deeper sell off is still ahead for Gold. A normal ICL. This is a chart that shows an ICL support (dotted line) in Golds prior Bull runs. It is calling for a possible dip to $1270- $1280. We shall see.
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GDX – GDX does look like it had an ICL type sell off in August. Could that be it for the selling in Miners? Maybe, I have discussed this in recent reports. Miners may hold up better and simply do a shake out / under cut. Time will tell on that one. It is only day 12 of possibly 20+, so there is plenty of time for another dip.
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HUI – GDX does not go back very far beyond the 2008 lows, so I used the HUI and this support feature. This points to HUI 194 on this drop, and would be GDX $22, but I do not know if this can be applied to this new bull run yet. The TAG of this support is not always complete, so it is just a guide.
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GDX – Fib retrace targets. $22 to $24 roughly.
So the conclusion of the matter is this. I didn’t think that the Fed would raise rates in September. I thought that this would be good for and even spike Gold, but the above charts do show me that in the past this year, that spike can be short lived. If you take a trade in your favorite Miners, use a trailing stop until a trend higher gets established. We COULD run higher for 2 weeks and then roll over, but we cant tell at this point until we see what happens after the fed Decision ( nio rate hike is likely). If Gold & Miners sell off or Pop & Drop, we know that the downside has had specific limits and a great buying opportunity emerged. If it rallys higher , it should be limited too, so I would use trailing stops loosely, just to lock in some gains. This is a tricky area for Gold & miners. I will have buy recommendations and chart set ups for low risk entries when they present themselves. Right now, some Miners look attractive and rather low risk with limited downside, but I can’t call them ‘low risk entries’, because today is Wednesday September21 – a Fed Wednesday. The risk is that stops could quickly be run in the volatility and frustrate traders. Individually, some experienced traders may want to take small starter positions in a few miners that they have wanted to own for a while and have pulled back to support. Knowing that the downside has limits as shown in the above charts of prior bull markets, some have written that they feel that they can handle a little draw-down in a dip, and they dont have a core position yet. Others want to enter with a semi-tight stop. That is a personal choice based on your trading style and risk tolerance. As a trader, I don’t always wait for the lowest risk set ups, just reasonably safe set ups.
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So I have been encouraging patience and so far we haven’t missed anything important or explosive in the Mining sector. We did see that GORO and RIC took only 3 days to recover weeks of selling, so this gives us confidence that a quick recovery should follow any sell off. Sentiment in Miners is extremely negative, so this may be a good buy area. People are afraid to own miners right now after Augusts sell off, that is bullish. If you have been here for a while, you probably own a core holding from the springtime rally. It should continue to be profitable over time. Stay Frosty and expect some time of volatility or action to pick up around 2:00 P.M. eastern time. Enjoy your Fed Wednesday and thanks for being here!
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~ALEX
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3 more charts – I don’t want the report to be too confusing and show a bullish case and a bearish case, with the timing for an ICL coming up. As I began looking things over, however, I do see Bullish implications for the short term too. Now that you have digested the fact the Gold is due for an ICL (deeper drop & Low), we ask, ” Can Gold POP first and then drop?” To the Gold charts we go.
If the Fed doesn’t raise rates and Miners have sold off to extremes, and sentiment is in the trash, that is usually quite bullish. Let me show you another observation for short term bullish Gold and how this may unfold. Hint: We saw the exact same thing in April & May before that ICL.
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GOLD – Look at April – May 2016. Follow the 1,2,3,4 on the chart, and you should be able to see a FED pop & run, and THEN a roll over. That was also mentioned in the report above actually. The APRIL 27 FED DAY POP was when it ran to new highs and stayed there for a few days, and then rolled over into an ICL. THIS MEANS that nimble ‘traders’ may be able to trade miners for quick profits.
So when I was looking for Golds ICL, I assumed just continuing down like this chart below (4). The above chart shows what happened with an April 27th Fed day pop and then into May with the drop to the ICL. That gives it a valid place in my reporting.
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I have added 3 more charts to the report after my name
Great report as usual Alex. Its a tough market to take a stand in here for sure,,if gold breaks I think you’re spot on with target in the HUI. If it breaks 220, I had it right around $193 +,, would be right at prior support and coincides with fib retracement. I’m hoping for the pop and drop scenario personally, and I think oil run to $46-$47 here,
Yes, it is a tough market to take a stan and avoid draw down,but many of these miners should be quite a bit higher after the ICL, so small positions or core positions may be easier to handle. And the Pop and Drop scenario could still eventually bring the HUI down, but maybe just not as far down as the 194 area, because by the time it dips down, that support could rise up.
The tougher part for me is that the daily cycle is pretty much right in the middle, so it can move higher & then drop, or it can just drop into an ICL , and then move higher. Sentiment is pretty bad, so it feels a tad bullish that way.
Alex, I nearly blew off reading today’s report. I mean what could you possibly come up with to write about in front of the Fed announcement and another oh-hum previous day. Great job maybe one of your best, super impressed with your willingness to keep digging.
Thanx
Thanks Crawdaddy –
I just saw so many possibilities when I looked back at previous Fed days. That tricky little move in April & May somehow slipped my memory, so definitely worth looking into. Thanks for being here, and now lets fasten our seat belts for 2 p.m 🙂
Good morning Alex – there may be an important milestone in place with Nat Gas now over $3 mcf
Gold sure seems awful strong here for just an 8 cent drop in the dollar….not sure what that means….? Several stocks I’d love to jump into but geez…..sure hesitate to do it before FED…..EIA report at 10:30…
The Silver stocks started out with a good pop and after a pause and a little pull back, made another move higher and look pretty good ( EXK, AG, HL, etc).
Good morning Alex
May I ask what the SMA is on your Weekly ICL support dotted line in the above Weekly chart of Gold?
…now that just reminds me of our fav (non horseback) childhood game… mother may i …take 3 giant steps forward…
lol …
ooo hmm PGH is tryn to do a lil sumthin sumthin…
convergences galore focussed around this area on this chart …. breakout here could certainly be a lil sumthin sumthin
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very cool SOG
Just checked PGH short interest. it’s at 1.5 days and has dropped 11% since yesterday so short covering may not be much of an influence
PGH, barf!!
giggle… sorry..;)
I hope so…I want out! I’m hoping for a giraffe neck before my cruise.
LOL … you’re still here? what the heck… i have to slow down … i thought it was this week… omg…
*speed reading is overrated 😉
I leave Saturday!
silver set up is perfect for a continuation higher ! waiting to buy my other half on uslv ……
The SLV popped right up on the 50sma today and I really like the volume. I remember when you posted your trade at the close , “with a stop below $20” the other day.
Nice trade Alain!
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for a chart. I like the look of SLV at this point.
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awesome
interesting to see if miners follow through and the low is in
So far taking a bite into some oil stocks yesterday was a good idea. I got back into CPE yesterday as well. The chart of CPE reminds me of the powerhouse gold miner CDE back in June when it was breaking above resistance.
Rice , CWEI ,and CPE are champions
For the scenario where Gold pops to, say, $1400 and then drops to an ICL, does cycle theory require that the low go below $1300, as suggested in the chart, or could it bottom at, say, $1350?
Hi DSAULW,
It does not have to go below $1300 if it runs to $1400 and then falls into an ICL, I just have some targets down there and want people to be prepared just in case it does. Readers here will not see it as extreme, if it is shown as a reasonable target ahead of time .
thanks for the elucidating articulation …. perspicacious professor of the charts ……
#MadGoodCharts
#HFT
Very nice Mar-thesaurus-ia
ha!
#iLkeWords
Mar-Thesaurus-rex – Sounds like a new breed of Dinosaur – lets see a Maria Gif for THAT!
kma
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Funny girl
CLD Is ignoring all the fed fence sitting… BBG Is acting right.. And NADL might be jumping the gun .hoping these are our canaries in the oil field (can’t say gold mine 🙂
Rates are unchanged ….happy Groundhog Day!
lol..tx C .. i cant look – appreciate post
Not catching this unfortunately.
Refresh – Remember AKS ? It is taking off and CLF and X, etc – still close enough to lows if you can ride some possible bumpiness. If you mean Miners, we have seen in the past that this can pop for a few days and roll over ( or go sideways) , so I gave a couple of ideas or ways to view todays action with the charts of GPL & ASM above. Many other Miners are similar in set up.
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Thanks for discussing base metals this week, I’ve been stalking CLF and X for a bit now.
They seem to be shaping up ( CLD is a leader, AKS looked good today, etc).
did a quick in at announcement and out when selling started…. big money for me is a confirmed icl…….does not matter the price ie: higher than now or lower than now…..10-20 points on jnug is all that is needed……
True – If Gold still has an ICL ahad and even if Miners put one in and just double bottom, the ICL time period is where the best gains come for the following 2-3 months.
Could this be only day 3 in this DC ?
With the ICL due in Jan. 2017 ?
HMMM, I do not see it that way. ICL’s used to be 5-6 months apart, but I believe that we broke the lows of a prior DCL in the drop to Sept 1st lows. That is a failure and signs of a drop into an ICL sooner than later. I’ll have to look at the charts later, but off the top of my head, I think we failed a dcl
Well, if gold and miners are ‘faking it’ on this upleg to then roll over, they are doing a might fine job of convincing acting!! Hard to think this just wants to roll right over, BUT I have definitely seen that happen in the past.
Just a quick drop in & IDEA in the last trading hour. Our core positions are feeling good today, what about any trades it this really is going to POP with follow through? Refresh for 2 charts- these are just examples of what I look at to take a trade for a day, 2, 3, 4, – however long the trade allows me to get in with lower risk, and upside potential.
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GPL Could finally recover the 50sma after 3 months struggling below it.
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ASM Could break out here, and your stop is right below the MAGENTA line. low risk, good upside potential for a trade.
There are MANY like this ( VGZ, HMY, etc still near lows. Stop below the lows, and looking for some gains if this runs higher for a few days. Miners can tack on 5-9% per day, so even if this rolls over later, you could grab 10-20%. Not bad). You already know this, but keep trades within your risk tolerance. If you cannot stomach possible down day tomorrow, we do not go ‘all in’ on HL or VGZ or ASM etc. – right? : )
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Sadly, my account is frozen as I move from TD to Merrill. Still enjoying most of the trades today though. 🙂
I know that feeling. IF I do that again, I’ll move 1/2 over to open the account, and the rest after it settles.
If you have a core though, your still making gains : )
welcome to Merrill…you will like the free trades!
Hi Nancy. Are you floating in the middle of the ocean somewhere? 🙂
Not yet…I leave Saturday for 7 days! I have not cruised in 3 years so am looking forward to that floating feeling again. Looks like hurricanes are not going where I am going so that is a break!
That is soooo cool!
They are looking into a margin account for me. I am being told that I can only have one of my accounts as a margin account? I want to avoid the 3 day wait to clear after a trade? Do you have any insight?
I don’t have a margin account so can’t help. I got I trouble once on the wait so put some $ in the account to cover…but I learned my lesson!
Also pull up NAK with the 50sma. That remained pretty healthy.
Hello Alex. I worked today so I missed a lot. Congrats to all who did well today. Ok, If you covered this please excuse the question. I remember when IPI would get down this low in the past, it presented an opportunity. Does IPI look worth a shot at this point in time? Thanks!
Hi Johnny – It “Might” be, but it is high risk the way it looks right now. The candle can be a bottoming candle at lows after a sell off, but this looks like a break down until it finds support or reverses.
Thank you.
Nice move on NAK, above the 50sma.
GPL is hated by a few here for their public offering, but it is above the 50sma for the first time since the start of July, and looks like a bullish consolidation that wants to break out ( semi low risk- they have an offering alreay behind them, and a stop is slightly below).
GORO broke to new highs & RIC huge move
I think that VGZ is semi low risk
HMY, KGC, etc pushing higher out of lows.
I like the risk / reward here to take some positions if you do not own or core ( Or even if you do, this set up looks bullish using technical analysis). Even if it is just a short term trade, for a week or so, good gains can still be scooped up.
Nice Alex. Got some AG today at the announcement. It hasn’t reach my buy zone just yet but got 1/2 position.
GPL (still holding) is doing its thing. should have added 🙂
So does this mean we’ve started daily cycle 2 for oil? That would mean that I sold out at the lows AGAIN this week. Knowing that they are long, thought we might have to wait later, but that inventory was real bullish. I didn’t sell all energy but about 1/2 (I was too heavy anyway).
I am thinking yes, and am writing the report now
I’m just here to make your life easier!
Buying ktov long term trading near cash. Biotech major upside potential 3.14. Looking for multiples
oil today vs. 2001 .. hmmmmmm
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Yep, could be starting the next daily cycle higher? Wave 3?
I could see that Maria – but what do you think – we should sell into strength at the next peak??
I would. I didn’t sell at the top last time, gave up a lot of gains and sold closer to the bottom b/c I had my bull goggles on. Oops! I won’t miss a chance to take profits again. Often the top of the 2nd daily cycle is a good place to get out, per CF’s reports. We can always look for another entry after that point.
Maria, thoughts?
as a rule .. i try not to think … ;o)
*that’s what chartfreak gets paid the big bucks for …………………
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Nice wardrobe change. Diggin’ it.
I was including you in team Awesome. Honest!
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lmao
I’m really trying here but something seems to be missing the mark…
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hey.. i dont have that outfit…
Straight from Janet Yellen’s Soup Restaurant…
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