GOLD PART 2 – IN Search Of A Bottom

This is part 2 of the special weekend report discussing how we Search for a possible bottom in Gold. This half of the report will include many more charts with just the facts of what is happening in many areas.   Again, these facts keep both Bull and Bears unbiased.  They also indicate that GOLD may already be hammering in a bottom.  Miners especially have the hallmarks of a longer term low in place.

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This chart adds to out last discussion in part 1 and my Big Picture view that I have been pointing out for months now. I pointed this out in this DEC 11 chart .  It shows that with the SPX bull market , and the bear market in Gold, we have repeatedly seen Gold ICL’S ( deep trade-able  lows) and also Golds Bear Market Rally Peaks  moving inverse to  The SPX .  I drew this to make that clear.

T= a TOP  &  ICL = A LOW

 

SPX RATIO VS GOLD

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I also said that I would be looking for a break down in this area ( A change). Here is my updated chart

GOLD SPX 2-6

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  I have been saying that I believe the SPX is topping, and we are seeing distribution at the top now and a break down. We are also seeing Gold pound out a different type of bottom.  Not a V-Shaped ‘short covering’ only rally,  but a nice round bottom.  Many view this as weak looking.   While we see ‘distribution’ at the top of the SPX, we see ‘Accumulation” at the lows here. Smart money buying  (And a classic shake out in miners to boot).

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GOLD – A break above $1191.70 is the start of gold breaking free from the bear market.  Higher highs finally after 4+ Yrs!   ( See opening theme image).  🙂

GOLD 2-5 e

 

Let me stop right here and just ask, ” What does it mean if Golds lows are in and the new Bull run higher is here?”  It means that we could actually buy and hold many of these beaten down miners and walk away for months and come back with large gains in many, possibly all of them.  If we bought and held stocks in the general market and walked away for months,  we may come back to find a problem.  That is why it’s called a Game Changer.

In past reports I have pointed out that some Miners already put their lows in during the Bear market. What will these do in a Bull run? These lows are already in…RIC WKLY 1-8

NG WKLY 1-8RIC 1-16 wkly

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  So lets get back to the research that I have done and show you some other things that I have been looking for and will be looking moving forward.

 

On Dec 11 –  I Mentioned that I had been  studying the XJY – Japanese yen ( I will share more of those studies later  in this report).  Here I had pointed out that I was watching the USD VS XJY.  When it peaked, we saw GOLD bottom with ICL’s. When Gold topped ( the lower line), This ratio would rally and Gold would drop. 

USD VS XJY DAILY 12-11

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I then used the Dec 11 weekly chart to show weakness in that MACD on a weekly basis . If this ratio breaks down,  Gold could break out, based on studies that I had been doing.

USD VS XJY WKLY 12-11

 Update: The MACD for this Ratio is now very weak, and this could be breaking down ( Remember the surprise by  Japan recently?  BOJ adopted a negative interest rate regime .  The XJY Popped and could rally like the dollar did).

USD VS XJY 2-5

 

I drew 2 charts by accident,  one for yesterdays part 1, and one for today?  I must be tired.   :- )

USD VS XJY

This gradual change in the relationship between GOLD VS USD is also  slowly causing a round bottom here too.  This bottom would continue with Gold breaking upward and the dollar dropping. 

GOLD VS USD 2

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Again,  The USD broke below the May lows, then it did NOT put in a higher high when the FED raised rates in December. This looks like the start of a double top and lower lows, lower highs.  Time will tell if we get a gradual down trend now  (Bullish for Gold).   Look at that MACD.

DOUBLE TOP

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Is the Canadian Dollar breaking out vs the USD? I think so. 

CAD USD

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We see a MONTHLY reversal candle.  When this happened in 2008 – Gold rallied. When it topped in 2012, Gold topped.  ( Click any chart for clarity).

USD VS CAD

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Here is the $USD / $CAD  with $Gold in the box below.  I drew this for last weeks weekend report and forgot to include it. It makes more sense in this weekends report. 

USD vs CAD

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This is the part of the report that I have wanted to share when the time was right. I started this study last spring, saving these charts  as time went on.  I knew that I would share this when it mattered,  when GOLD & The  Miners Bottom looked to be in place.  I wanted to wait and see if this study matched up with that Gold Bottom when the time comes.  I think that time is now.  ( You will also see why I thought the July 2015 Lows in Gold could have been the lows too. ).

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OK – Those who enjoy chart studies may enjoy this,  others may struggle with it’s boredom.  I hope to be able to explain this clearly for all. I hope to be brief ( yeah , right!).  

 

In the following charts I’m pointing out the $GOLD and the $XJY relationship, and my thinking all last year was …” When the XJY finally bottoms, we will see a GOLD Bottom soon after. ”  To the charts!…

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2008 to 2013 –  The Japanese yen is the top box, Gold is the larger chart. Often Gold & the XJY Peaked and Bottomed around the same time.  Notice on the right side of the chart in 2012,   XJY broke down to new lows  orange line (Gold hadn’t –  Dotted line). Was XJY  predicting Golds drop?

D= Dip  P= Peak  

yen & gold.

Jan 2012 – June 5 , 2015 –  In this chart I placed the XJY in the large box and Gold above.  I picked up where the last chart ended.  In 2012  the XJY broke to new lows 1st ( 1st yellow line) , and Gold followed later. Each sell off after that saw the Yen bottom near Golds ICL’s.  THEN we see XJY broke to new lows before Gold in 2014 again ( 2nd yellow line) , but Gold didnt.  Shortly after that-  Gold  broke down too).  That is when I started watching the XJY with GOLD closely. 

You can also see that the XJY   Then broke to new lows  in June last summer  (3rd Yellow line,  Magenta arrow) – so a break down in Gold would come last summer too? 

GOLD & XJY NOW.

On June 5 –  Zooming in.  Gold & Yen really acting in sync with dips & peaks.  They both formed a triangle.  $XJY broke down, would $Gold follow last July to new lows?   I expected that low.   Read the chart.

$GOLD & YEN CLOSE UP

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SEPT 2 , 2015 –  Gold put in an ICL last July and we traded that low here. I was watching the XJY and it bottomed first in JUNE and made a higher low in August , so I actually started saying,  “This could be THE LOWS” from time to time in my reports.  I mentioned that I was studying the yen and liked what I saw.  This is what I was watching.     If the YEN bottomed in June and made higher lows, then I expected Gold to bottom in July & do the same.  

YEN & GOLD DAILY sept 2

SEPT 2 WKLY –  And this was looking good.   Notice the break out higher in the yen!   Did XJY recover?  Would Gold follow? 

YEN & GOLD SEPT 2 2015

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Last September  The FED really started talking about   interest rate hikes possibly in OCT? or DEC?  I wanted to see what that might do to these charts.

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The Fed raised rates in December    

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  $XJY – After A dip in November heading into the Fed mtg,  the XJY ran higher & formed an Inverse H&S. Now in Feb 2016,  it  looks ready to finally break out. This means that XJY  most likely bottom last summer, so I would expect Gold to bottom too.  Our SHAKE OUT in the Miners may be THE FINAL LOWS.  A break out in the XJY will be viewed as bullish for Gold,  I.M.H.O.

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$XJY 2-4 WOOHOO

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And the Big Picture may be changing in many different areas. That is a weekly break out for XJY/USD.  Will it hold  for the first time since 2012? Will Golds lows hold for the 1st time since 2012.

XJY USD BREAKs

 

  Many of the areas that I have been keeping an eye on are lining up.  As I mentioned,  it takes a long time to turn a large freighter ship around in the ocean.  It also takes a long time to turn multi year markets trends around too.  Smart money unloads gradually at tops, and accumulates gradually at lows.   There are still other areas that I also keep track of, and they are also acting in a way that would indicate that Gold / Miners lows could very well already be in place.  I will include them in future reports too. 

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  Questions remain for some.  What about that re-test of the 2008 area?  What about all the other analysts saying that Gold must go sub $1000?  Is that necessary?   I will share my findings on that in future reports too.  Right now Gold and Miners are acting very Bullishly and Silver is finally breaking out.  There are reasons to believe that it could be more than a short covering rally in  a bear market.   At this point I will still trade this bottom as mentioned in last weeks  reports,  and look to BUY THE DIP if things remain as they are. we’ve been riding  positions bought at the lows 2 weeks ago.     I discussed using Trailing stops, Partial profit taking, etc. in a report last week.    As for Miners that bottomed a year  or so ago, like  LSG, NG, RIC, etc?    It looks like keeping a core position will pay off.  I will  add on the dips as long as things remain bullish.

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  I  believe that this 2 part weekend report is unbiased.  It shows just the facts of what has been happening and the affect it is having on the precious metals.  We see proof that Gold is either at, or very close to forming the Bear Market Lows.  This type of research can add confidence to future trade opportunities in this area after a pullback.  So many others  will remain bearish at the lows, ready to short each pull back. I have been studying the move that the HUI, XAU, GDX, GDXJ recently put in, and the pattern playing out.   I will share those finding soon too. Right now there is no way of knowing exactly when the pull back will begin, or how deep it will drop. In future reports I will try to help us to navigate it, but one thing is for sure… If this is the lows of this bear market and the bull is reemerging, there is a lot of money to be made when these beaten down Miners recover. You will see moves like this one in AG from 2008-20011.

AG 2008

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Thanks for being here and I hope everyone had a great weekend!

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 ~ALEX

112 replies
  1. Mark Giangreco
    Mark Giangreco says:

    OK Alex-here’s me being incredibly pessimistic. Right now, gold is rising as a fear trade. Gold may have bottomed as you have pointed out. My concern comes from a decline that gets so out of hand in the conventional markets it takes everything with it including gold. The FED and the CBs around the world are way behind the curve and I seriously question whether this time around anything less than a bazooka type response will be enough to ward off a 70% decline in the S&P. We have major structural problems around the world. However, I just don’t think the FED will do anything unless and until we breach 1500-1600 which is obvious support on the S&P and by then it may be too late to ward off an additional 20-30% decline. Then, the CBs get serious with unprecedented measures beyond our wildest imagination. So, you think this is a realistic concern/scenario with gold being caught in a deflationary collapse such that 500-750 becomes a true bottom later this year?

    • Gary Savage
      Gary Savage says:

      Mark,
      FWIW the dollar isn’t rising as stocks fall into their 7 YCL. So the only safe haven assets to turn to are gold and bonds. I doubt this time will be similar to 2008. During that crash the safe haven was into the dollar. Not this time.

      So the more panic selling in stocks should trigger panic buying in gold and bonds.

      • Mark Giangreco
        Mark Giangreco says:

        Yes, that is a distinction that’s worth noting I forgot about. The dollar will hit bottom at some point and move higher. The question I suppose becomes from what point and will it make a higher high?

      • Bill
        Bill says:

        Hi Gary. I have seen in the past where the Sp sells off and the miners get trashed with it. Gold can go up and miners fail. Do you think we will see any of that?

          • chartfreak1
            chartfreak1 says:

            I agree with that thinking, but I think that it depends on which “break out” they are watching.

            (refresh for a chart)

            $1191 is a higher high for cycle enthusiasts, but is it really a break out to the big boys? …

            Many may sell at a round number of $1200.

            Some would watch the break out above the 200sma. ( we did that already )

            Others the downtrend line that we broke above at $1140.

            As for Miners…they can march to the beat of their own drummer, but they are getting very extended. No harm in locking in some profit and trailing the rest.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Hi Mark,

      In the 3rd chart of the part 1 weekend report, I pointed out that the 1990’s SPX/ NAZ Bull Market (Think tech bubble too) dropped from 2001-2003, and Gold ran higher out of bear market lows. That Tech Bubble crash was scary for many, but a market drop doesn’t have to take everything with it. Gold was already in a bear market and was bottoming.

      If markets drop here , you cant make money long there. I expect the dollar to drop. If the dollar drops here, you lose money long there too. If interest rates are low, you cant make money in savings. If Gold starts rising, money may go long there to make gains and momentum may take over, etc.

      I suppose that there are endless scenarios, but I dont currently see $500 Gold in the charts.

      I watch many different things along the way and I will just keep watching the charts to guide me along. They usually tell the story before we can see whats happening.

  2. Chris
    Chris says:

    Hi Alex. I’ve had a ‘love affair’ with charts for more than 35 years now!! So you can only imagine how much I’ve enjoyed this weekends ‘double dose’!! 🙂 🙂 And I strongly suspect I am far from alone in that! 🙂 Great analysis and a incredible amount of work on your part, which is hugely appreciated by all of us subscribers I am certain. Hope you managed at least a bit of R&R this weekend though!!

      • Chris
        Chris says:

        When I started Maria I had to hand draw my first charts!! Imagine if Alex had had to do that for this weekends reports!!! One good thing about technology at least. 🙂

        • Maria
          Maria says:

          wow…. lucky u!! :o) im envious… insert clip “…if we could turn back time… ”

          just a fairly new-found passion of mine … but – the realllllly good news is that I know with certainty that for the rest of my life there is something out there that will continue to fascinate, intrigue, & hopefully not allude ;o) me, annnnd where the research/learning possibilities are quite literally … limitless…
          woop

          • Chris
            Chris says:

            I know exactly how you feel Maria. I feel as excited pullling up charts now as as did at the start and there are always new subtle twists and turns to learn and take account of, which keeps it endlessley fascinating in my opinion…and in yours too by the sound of it. And the great thing is that as long as you can operate a PC age is no kind of barrier to particiaption!!! Thankfully!! 😉 lol

          • Maria
            Maria says:

            :0)
            i actually just became a big fan… recvd 25 for xmas gift… it’s been quite the whirlwind –
            deep meditations w/ this one..pheww…

          • Chris
            Chris says:

            Make sure you get to hear some of her earlier stuff as well if you haven’t already. Some amazing vocals. 🙂

          • Chris
            Chris says:

            No idea what the first one is and only vaguely aware of the second!! Lol And on neither! Just remember when I started at this the animals were still coming off the ark!! Lol I do use email though!! lol

          • Chris
            Chris says:

            He might not give me that under data protection laws!! 😉 If you want…drop me one to mine fauconnaires@gmail.com and if you do I’ll send you some really long term stuff I have which you might find interesting. This is real ‘big picture’ stuff but wrap your head around this and I reckon you will understand more than most people involved in the finance industry. Or if they are aware of it they will never admit to knowing it becuase it doesn’t fit with their business models and they prioritise making money over protecting their clients!!

          • Chris
            Chris says:

            I’ve never actually gone away but just been doing lots and lots of analysis here on my own as well as giving all my trading/investment systems a major overhaul to hopefully help make this year a really good one!! 🙂 And a bit like Alex I’ve had some very long term charts on the back burner and just waiting to see if some of those ‘super tankers’ are finally turning!! It’s certainly looking hopeful at long last! 🙂

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Thanks Chris, I was hoping that it wouldn’t bore people to tears, but it is part of what I have been watching unfold.

      When various different things continue to line up and point toward a possible Bottom in precious metals, I felt it best to share with readers here, to add to their confidence if we get a “Buy the pull back” opportunity. Many still fear a flash crash to sub $1000, so this report may say that something else is occurring. There is more that I want to share in time. if things continue falling into place.

      Thanks for the positive feedback 🙂

      • Chris
        Chris says:

        NEVER bored with your analysis Alex!! And making us stand back and asess the bigger picture is so vitally important so that we keep seeing the wood for the trees. All too easy to get wrapped up in the daily moves and miss the much bigger things that might be happening as you’ve highlighted so well this weekend. Thanks again. 🙂

  3. CS
    CS says:

    Nice report Alex, really like to detail you put into it. I have a small PM/miner position but will wait for a dip to add. Chasing things for me usually hasn’t worked out well in the past.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Thx CS

      It is best to add on a pull back ( Unless you find a low risk lagger that looks like it wont sell off much & may be ready to take off). POssibly SA? Another Example : Some silver miners were looking that way last week., then many exploded like FSM, SSRI, PAAS, etc . EXK may be lagging . GPL moved nicely, but the weekly still looks good.

      But waiting is better than buying an extended stock.

  4. Maria
    Maria says:

    wow…
    just had time to flip thru quickly.. W .. O .. W… some seriously advanced stuff… thank u for taking us there & pushing -at least me- into uncharted territory… ;o)
    #homework
    #leanMeanLearningMachine

  5. Bill
    Bill says:

    Great report Alex, thanks. Do you see any % gains relationship between the Yen and Gold? Or is it just timing. Need your best guidance on when to step out of this uptrend in the miners.

      • GOLDSA
        GOLDSA says:

        Pardon my ignorance but why does GDX / NUGT going parabolic make you nervous ? I am assuming you are still holding on to NUGT. Any thoughts on why it might sell off / pull back ?

        • Bill
          Bill says:

          Well, nothing goes up forever, right? When a stock starts to go parabolic its a warning sign of bubble about to burst. Not saying it will here, maybe I’m still conditioned to think BEAR market. Either way I have a stop in place and will adjust it as NUGT goes up.

  6. Irwin
    Irwin says:

    What do ya know? I have one miner showing a gain since I bought it – Franco-Nevada (FNV) and I’m not selling.
    All the other flea-bitten varmints have to show gains in the many hundreds of percent to get back to break even.
    Some probably will be de-listed eventually.
    Okay – I exaggerate slightly. SA, RGLD, PG.TO aren’t that far away from showing a gain.

  7. Ken
    Ken says:

    Excellent Report this morning Alex. I have been studying the Swiss Franc and IT’s correlation with Gold …… your study of the Yen is much better ! 🙂

    • Irwin
      Irwin says:

      Could be, Bill.
      I remember what happened after the Jan 2015 pop – deadly.
      Changed my mind about FNV – sold it at $53

  8. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    refresh for 2 charts below . long bases / sweet moves. Started a core position under $1, since it bottomed last summer. Sell partial profit and but the dip .
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  9. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    Wow, some of these Miners. Wow.

    AUY gapped right over the 200sma, now up almost 20% today alone after being higher for most of over 2 weeks.
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    Definitely smart to take some money off of the table and look for pullback, until THE LOWS are definitely confirmed. Even bull markets correct.

    • GOLDSA
      GOLDSA says:

      Hi Alex – I sold my NUGT at 49. It was a very good run. If you were to make an estimate on the GDX pulback, where would that be ? Could it be a 60% retracement. I know it may depend on if its a bull or a bear market. But your best guess. Thanks

      • chartfreak1
        chartfreak1 says:

        Hi Goldsa

        Sorry, but its all guess work at this point. There is no way to tell if we dont even have proof of a top yet. This pattern is a very rare pattern that I am familiar with- it can run to over exhaustion to the May highs coming out of this base. The pullback might then be a 3 week sideways handle, never even coming back here. It also can collapse and pull back quite a bit. Its too early to guess and expect it to help.

      • Bill
        Bill says:

        Here’s one guess on GDX! I really don’t know, but possible! 38.2% is a very common minimum pullback. Refresh

        • chartfreak1
          chartfreak1 says:

          I had the same upper trend line, unless this just keeps going toward the may highs. Thats a good guess though, A pullback to the 200sma would be reasonable.

  10. SonOfGud
    SonOfGud says:

    For thems thats interested… a 30 day compare of $(UUP)/ gold(GLD)/ miners!!(GDX)/ oil(USO)/ £(FXB)/ S&P(SPY)

  11. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    Imagine this if you can …
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    Using cycles however, still plenty of time possible. We could even get a quick slam down for 3-4 days and then a quick run higher to finish the daily cycle peak near day 23, then a dip too.
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  12. Chris
    Chris says:

    I’m no candlestick officianado by a long chalk but on my chart system I have GDX demonstrating a gap up today. If that gap was maintained into the close today and then GDX gapped dowm tomorrow I’m pretty certain that would make todays candle an ‘abandoned baby’. If so…and there are a few ifs in here, then if I recall correctly that would be a short term bearish signal. But no saying how bearish or how short term.

  13. JT
    JT says:

    Sold about 50% of my positions here. I was pretty heavy into EXK, IAG, SA. I’ll either buy more on a pullback or sell the rest on a run up

  14. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    I love the way GOLD broke the 1200 and then gave it up.

    I mentioned that in a comment below earlier today , they gun for the whole round numbers and then sell it off.

    Probably get our pullback now.
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    Good night all – Great trading the past 2 weeks.

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