February 1st – Post Fed Swing Sets

SPX – We are actually pretty late in the timing for a dcl, so even though this drop can meander like the one in November did, it may just be a brief dip.

 

WTIC  – Oil is also in the timing for a dcl, but it could drop further. These markets have been so strong, but I do expect a bit more of a drop here.

XLE  – The XLE dropped fairly quickly and then put in a form of a reversal candle on Fed Wed. It dropped so fast that it would take some buying to get back over the 10sma and confirm a swing low.  In fact, it may just bounce and drop again  (like an a-b-c), so I am just watching this for now.

 

THE USD

 

No doubt about the fact that the USD is frustrating in several ways.  It looks set to bottom in an ICL or DCL, but that bounce could short term adversely affect Miners.  Miners look Bullish. That said, there is No clear answer.  My only advise is to stay alert and use a stops if you’re buying Miners.  The only other thing one could do is stay on the side lines and miss a possible run higher.   Let’s examine the charts…

 

USD as UUP -From yesterday,  The USD MIGHT just be putting in a dcl similar to August, and not an ICL.  Only time will tell,  but this alone is keeping some from being comfortable buying Miners.

 

USD DAY 4 – Notice that on day 4 the USD has not even pushed above the 10sma yet.  The 10sma is around 89.50. If it does break above it, we’ll have to see how Miners react and possibly play defense.

 

USD FROM YESTERDAYS REPORT  -And in this chart I pointed out that it is possible that it wont get above the 10sma, it could drop into next week to make a low. If this is just another daily cycle ‘pause’, there would be more downside & allow miners to run higher.

GOLD, SILVER, MINERS

 

GOLD -I just wanted to point out that Gold did drop to about $1332.90, because Stockcharts does not show that.  This would mean that GOLD made a NEW low on day 33.

 

GOLD – Gold on FED WEDNESDAY did drop to a new low and recovered. This would be a day 33 low and a push above Wed highs would put a swing low in place.  A DCL is due, so that USD is puzzling.

 

GOLD – Oddly,  using this charting service, it gives me a day 34 low yesterday.  I am pointing out here that after the last FED POP in Dec 13th,  Gold just paused for 2 days. If GOLD pauses now, and the USD breaks higher for day 5 & 6, the USD could peak left translated and then drop, allowing Gold to move higher.

GOLD – From a prior report. If the USD bounced in a simple DCL and peaked on day 5-8,  then GOLD still could drop as shown, but so far the FED reversal is the low.

 

GUT FEEL:  This is a very difficult read with Gold vs USD.  GOLD looks ready to run higher and out in a dcl on day 34.  I Bought Miners yesterday and mentioned it in the comments section.    The USD has pause at the recent lows on day 4 and also looks like it may want to go higher. Can they run higher together?  Yes, but it is rare. So we have a mixed picture,  but the precious metals do look bullish.   let’s look further…

 

 

SILVER – Silver actually bottomed last week.  It also looks like a bullish set up.

GDX –  Yesterday I was comparing GDX now to GDX August.  GDX August did not get completely oversold, and put in a reversal at the lower timing band.

GDX – Yesterdays Fed sell off did almost the exact same thing.

 

GDX – Here I wanted to point out that on that ICL FED WED Pop on Dec 13th, similar to Gold, GDX ‘paused’ & dropped for 2 days.  If we ‘pause’ or drop a bit Thursday , it does not necessarily mean that it is weak.

GDX – Zooming in, we have a reversal on the 34 sma, and if price moves above yesterdays highs of 23.83,  we have a swing low. It is also at the down trend line, so a push above that is bullish too. It would be a buy signal if you didn’t buy the reversal.

So that looks like a DCL is going to form in Gold & Miners if they move above Wednesdays highs.  That would be a BUY.  The USD is the tricky part,  giving us mixed signals.

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I was asked what I watch during the FOMC DECISION,  or intraday, so I shared some charts in the comments section as time went by.  I will share some charts and thoughts here, because I found something rather amazing when I went back and looked at the first one below.

 

GDXJ – Here I posted a bullish break out in GDX intraday on the 15 minute chart. The funny thing is, in the comments I mentioned that this could possibly still drop and ‘back test’ the break out of the wedge with a FED WHIP SAW at the 2 p.m. release. It doesn’t really look likely though, right?

 

 

GDXJ –  And then it did get back tested!  Crazy!  So I ended up Buying when it dropped and did a reversal.  I will show why on a separate chart.

 

 

 So I bought.  Why?   We got a back test on that break out, and also in the comments I wrote that I was looking around during the sell off,  I saw THM up 15%, TRX, HMY, NSRPF, CDE, SA, AKG, SAND, and several other miners acting perfectly fine and in the green.   This did not look like a broad-based sell off, so as GDX & GDXJ reversed , I added.

 

JNUG  – I  was watching this shake out take place and saw very heavy volume, but price stopped dropping, and actually reversed. To me, that volume is stops being run, and buyers stepping in and accumulating large positions. I jumped in , and a stop can be placed below the lows of that sell off.   This is not as ‘SAFE’ of a buy as a confirmed swing low, it can whip saw & come back down, but like I said-  it all added up with many miners green, and a stop close below.

 

JNUG – This is how the day ended. I bought around the reversal candle.

So I saw reversals on many of the Miners.  Let’s take a look at just a couple.  If we get the swing low in place,  these may be good opportunities.

 

CDE – Doesn’t this look like a low risk entry? It is right above the 50sma so a stop could be placed there.

 

HMY – HMY is still at the lows, but this is strong volume over the last 2 days and it didnt drop during the Fed Sell off.  It looks stronger this timeand closed up 6%.

SA – I posted this after the Fed sell of started.  SA was one of the ones holding up through the selling, and this looks low risk if you use a stop.

SAND – This could be viewed as a cup with an odd handle. If I bought it I would use a tight stop at the 34 sma, and risk is minimal.

 

 So above I wanted to show you why I bought before a swing low was in place.  As a full time trader, I often jump the gun if I see the right conditions in real time.  Sometimes it works, other times I get stopped out.  1. We had a sharp sell off and reversal in Miners.  2. Many Miners stayed Green and others also have reversal candles.  3. We are on day 34 for Gold. These are a few of the reasons that I added intraday.   It was risky, but things were looking more bullish than bearish. The USD is the only question mark.  If Gold drops to yesterdays lows, and Miners resist the selling, that would be bullish. If they both drop, I may get stopped out.

 

 Basically, the information that the FOMC MEETING presented was not a surprise.  I think that the initial reaction in GDX & GDXJ could simply be bigger players running the stops to accumulate large positions at the dcl.  I hope that they are done  🙂  We got a nice reversal and any follow through higher puts a swing low in place and regains the 10sma.

 

 I know that the USD looks to be bottoming too, but should that stop us from buying if Gold & Miners put in a swing low?  The USD would be on day 5 today after going sideways, and if it is just a DCL, it could peek on day 5-8.   If it is an ICL and due for a small rally?  Well – that is tricky.  All I can suggest is to use stops and stay alert until the uncertainty that comes with the mixed signals clears up.  I added to my position yesterday, and will use a stop under yesterdays lows for new positions.  Stay frosty and enjoy your Thursday trading!

 

~ALEX

 

I will be away for an hour or two in the morning – I should be back by the time the market opens.

 This is Gold as I proof read the report this morning. Gold is dropping toward yesterdays lows  ( $1332.90).  You can watch that number. It may just be a ‘test’ of the lows, but what if the lows break?   If it breaks, we may see Gold push below $1324.30 to run some possible stops there. If Miners drop too, I will probably be stopped out of my positions and will have to reassess .  I would actually love to see Gold break down and recover before the open with that often seen 8:30 a.m. directional change.  That way Gold could break down, but Miners would ignore the move.   Only time will tell how this is going to play out!

Stay frosty my friends! 🙂

 

 

154 replies
  1. RonB
    RonB says:

    Excellent. You REALLY answered my question now. That is one of the tools I have been missing – to make an assessment mid-day and change directions.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      It is not always easy, because the WHIP-SAW factior is really high during FOMC meetings. Since we were on day 33 for GOLD and due for a low- I was mainly focused on a possible shake out & reversal. We did get that, but whether it HOLDS over the next few days remains to be seen.

      It is a low risk entry. And I see JNUG at about $16 right now premarket, SO MAYBE I ADD and still just use yesterdays lows as a stop.

  2. Von Burger
    Von Burger says:

    Alex,

    The gold chart you refer to (34 days), if that’s Investing.com it does add extra candles. Eg extra candle added on public holidays when markets closed. Can throw cycle counts out a little.

    My subscription comes to an end tomorrow. May subscribe again in the future. Wish you all the best.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Hello Von,

      Thanks for saying hello / good bye

      Thats a good point to know ( They include holidays). I don’t know why I didn’t think of that, makes sense, since Gold DOES trade on US holidays 🙂

      Thanks for giving Chartfreak a try, I wish you the best !

  3. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    Gold was down about $7 and I still see some Green Miners, and the red ones seem mostly to be down by only about 1% or so.

    GSV, MUX, DRD, AG, CDE, ABX etc all going from RED to GREEN- SO I Added

  4. Trond Tveten
    Trond Tveten says:

    Bill, here a link to the short term 3-4 months IHS
    http://schrts.co/hAxmLu
    Importantly the rsi of the right shoulder is on a higher level than that of the left. Target is ~18.6$. (Can bet w the doubters if that’ll be reached 🙂
    Here the longer term one, starting around sept 2016, with the head in primo July 2017 w a price target just above 21. Note the convergence of the 50 week and 200w sma’s:
    http://schrts.co/9L5BfP

    • Cason
      Cason says:

      But starting to get really annoyed. Running out of patience. Just wanted to sell and move on but your report stressed the reasons to keep holding. So I will. But this hasn’t been fun or easy last 2 weeks!

  5. Trond Tveten
    Trond Tveten says:

    Alex, tnx for reminding us of that day after Fed price action in December, maybe smt of the similar is taking place today..
    Btw the previously mentioned THM is actually a safer miner than Barrick etc (even if the volatility is higher) bec they are not exposed to the risk of producing or developing/constructing. They just sit waiting and burning cash very slowly in a very low risk area.
    At the same time the upside potential is much higher.
    John Paulson has recently increased his stake to 34% there.

  6. BayTrader
    BayTrader says:

    Added PYPL and just added a bit more, all in the IRA. Also, just blindly followed CF into NOG.. lol

        • chartfreak1
          chartfreak1 says:

          OGRMF, SPRWF, MYMMF, TBPMF ( EDXC from a long time ago).

          OGRMF & SPRWF from September or October with additions on the way .
          MYMMF & TBPMF more recent ( & slightly in the red)

      • Ralph Wiederzane
        Ralph Wiederzane says:

        Yep, time to get my list ready. Thanks to those here for the specific names they like most. I won´t trade the etf, and will likely stick to OGRMF, SPRWF, and CBWTF (this one has been hanging in pretty well). Not sure about CNBX, but like that it has tested it´s 50 MA already.

  7. Trond Tveten
    Trond Tveten says:

    $ craters and PM’s does absolutely nothing. Chillingly similar to my previously mentioned parallell to 1993-96 when all the money went into the stockmarket tech bull.
    Check the left side of this very important chart comparison. From the start of 1994 till the spring of 1995 the $ collapsed downwards almost 20%! – while the PMs went lethargically sideways and never exceeding the baby bull top. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/500fcf8aaea5c8dc4b55fb1f18bf6ed0a9a97c444f51250c967cb54cb7b5e8b1.jpg

      • Tammie
        Tammie says:

        Any way you think it might still fall to the 200 day? I’ve been keeping my eye it, I want back in 🙂

          • Tammie
            Tammie says:

            That’s what I was thinking too, wanted to see if you were thinking same thing….I want to get some but have been waiting ….

          • miller
            miller says:

            It could have some bounces,,and today had high volume with small tail, a little buying, or covering, and the sector could rally and it follow but I was looking at .225_.25 as my target price. Just looking at chart and not drawing it out, its only my opinion

          • miller
            miller says:

            More concerning is that the high volume break also came on break of 50d moving average. If it bounced and retook that and held I’d be more apt to buy.

  8. marinho
    marinho says:

    Alex,
    I was looking at your idea of running stops on gold to bring it below 1330, around 1320-1325, Do you think that is possible today and tomorrow before the NFP? or could be a final washout after the number is released?

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      I want to say ‘Yes” – it is possible for either or neither .

      I just dont want to get caught flat footed if the NFP Spikes the USD and I’m in JNUG at $15.80. I want a tighter stop on that portion, just in case

        • chartfreak1
          chartfreak1 says:

          I can buy & sell premarket,

          …but sometimes the pre market moves are false moves because they are easy to push around.

          I would say if you are worried about NFP, why worry about it unnecessarily? Just sell and get back in when you feel safer. We dont have a swing low yet.

          • marinho
            marinho says:

            thanks, I am a little worried about the NFP, I will be watching like a hawk! but seriously I love the silver action here consolidating in a high handle, like gold of course.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Actually – I just got back home again – was on the road this morning – and it dropped more than I would have wanted to see . I should just sell it , I was using a mental stop & we are below it ( though it may be a shake out).

      This one I did NOT buy lower, so it is RED for me.

      I had drawn a break of the downtrend line when I bought it, and expected that maybe it would back test that trend line, but it seems to have broken through both the 50 & the trend line .

      I just got in, I need to look at a few things, but this sector seems to be selling off quite a bit & I dont know why, unless it is just a normal retrace.

      Refresh
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/420f0e3c913073767e5ec1d242092190e9eb018ac392f509dbe91a6ec5968ff7.jpg

      • Peter
        Peter says:

        Yeah, doesn’t look great. Some decent buying volume near the lows today, but that doesn’t seem to be resurrecting price. Let me know if you decide to bail. I’m thinking about it too.

  9. cannaber
    cannaber says:

    i had to let CNAB and a couple minor MJs go…..feels like I am selling the hole….but keeping CNBX and adding to CANN, bot at $3.90 and have bids under 3.50…..have no idea why this aggressive the selling but I think it will end soon enough. mayb has something to do with crypto washout? LOL no idea….

    • miller
      miller says:

      Shorts are crushing every bounce it seems, that why the violent one day rallies don’t last, and the constant dilution/offerings a lot are announcing in my opinion. They’ll settle soon enough though, and should be great buys and I believe some will be excellent investments. Just gotta get through the “dilution” phase alot are going through.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      I was wondering the same – I haven’t been in front of the screen at all times today, so I was going to look for some news, or is this just a normal sell down. It’s a tough call. Charts do not look bad, but I have given some gains back 2 days in a row

    • miller
      miller says:

      Here is my take on CANN for whats is worth. My trade the other day was based on the double bottom support in the $4.82 range. (on smaller timeframe) You had heavy volume support 1rst touch and light volume on 2nd.I tried to buy as close to there as possible But when it broke it 3rd time on expanding volume I was out, thats when I mentioned it to you here. That was a big tell for me. It could bounce here, Its pretty oversold and due for one, its near support of $3.38 which puts right on target for a measured move down target as well. But the majority of volume in that zone is selling and mostly because of today. after that, $2.60 area which coincides with lower trendline. Just my .02 and im usually wrong more than Im right, : )https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fed295ab33192e78bca601828620896750964a69c495b59a7f1ec6bc23dd1a39.png

  10. Peter
    Peter says:

    Miners seems to be preparing for a drop of sorts. Gold hasn’t moved much but miners mostly down. Some pretty large.

  11. Bill
    Bill says:

    Bought EDXC again this morning. I’ve been trading the range for a while. I did it when it was trading between 0.042 and 0.052 several times. I’ve been doing it again in the new channel between 0.060 and 0.067. Doesn’t sound like much but it was 20% before and 13% in the current channel.
    https://www.tradingview.com/x/jsSjtsVC/

  12. Paul
    Paul says:

    CF- What do you make of today’s volatility in the stock market indices? They seem to keep resisting selling off, but their daily volumes seem exceedingly low — and just now, they’re not doing so well at resisting the selling.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      I am expecting them to be weak until they get down into their dcl, and I don’t know where that will be.
      In prior dips, they had similar activity – selling down and going sideways. At this point it looks normal, but I do wonder about them dropping to an ICL sooner than later too.
      I am watching the next daily cycle to see if it is weaker than the last few, or is it practically a straight up move again too.

      EDIT: If you go back to the first chart in this report, that blue box in November on the SPX is similar to what I would expect

  13. Ralph Wiederzane
    Ralph Wiederzane says:

    Miners are lagging the metal worse than I´d like to see. I will stay in everything and let´s see if they can catch up, they might be down bc they are stocks and the market is weak, while also expecting a correction in not only miners but also stocks. Perhaps that is keeping trading on the sideline, as miners are the trading vehicle for the most part. If gold continues up, I expect miners to catch up soon, like tomorrow.

  14. RonB
    RonB says:

    The USD UUP is looking weak here – and lulling me to sleep. But BTG has been a trailblazer and is looking ok.

      • Chris
        Chris says:

        I know what you mean Alex but perhaps rather tellingly despite the general USD weakness today it is actually rallying against the Yen and given that correlation between Yen and gold that might go some way to explaining it. 🙁

  15. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    I’ll throw out a comment about GOLD & MINERS too. So many things to think about & look for.

    – I always look for MIners to lead, and I feel more comfortable with Miners leading. Gold does seem to be leading, and in fact, the first run up in GOLD out of Decembers ICL looks much stronger then the miners, since Gold hardly corrected, Miners did almost 50%.

    – Usually the plan is this- You seek outr an ICL and get in at the lows. You usually get 2 good daily cycles out of it, and then you assess how things turned out. At this point, it looks like GOLD is near a dcl on day 34 ( or day 2 if yesterdays low sticks).
    Some Miners have had nice moves out of Dec lows, see AUY, NEM, IAG, SAND, etc – others did not show strength.

    – SO as I said, I usually start to assess how things look, and if things do not change in the 2nd daily cycle- it would seem that Gold is leading and Miners are not finding enough buying, the 3rd daily cycle would expect to be weak.

    – If SILVER breaks out, Gold breaks to new highs, And Miners catch fire because of that? Then things would be great. People shorting Miners right now would cover & we’d see a good 2nd run.

    – AT this point- I am invested from the DEC ICL and added at what I hope is GOLDS DCL. I have to just go from there.
    I can sit on the sidelines and wait for a swing low- that is a safer plan and best for most. I got in on a reversal that COULD BE early .

    – Time will tell, but at this point, we found the ICL, we rode it higher, I am thinking that GOLD is due for a dcl, and I certainly Hope that GDX didnt put in a dcl and this is a weal 2nd daily cycle.

    – It is going to take a little more time to see how this plays out.

    – I will say that the USD is down pretty good today, and GOLD / MINERS aren’t reacting higher. That is not what I would want to see.

    – I will add this- Look at charts of the ICL in GOLD and the ICL in GDX back in DEC. Which one took the lead out of that “Pause” on the day after FED? We may see that here too.

  16. Ralph Wiederzane
    Ralph Wiederzane says:

    My SVBL is doing well, like this chart a lot. Also see that BTG got some legs.

    http://schrts.co/Mg3hb9

    I still like where we stand, the conditions are perfect to leave bulls behind after booking profits they want back in, but bull markets don´t make it easy. I say this bc being positioned as a long term bull, I still have been questioning the miners more than usual, even contemplating trimming some of my positions. Instead, I will stay on for what could be a payday, it´s setting up very unexpected, that is for sure.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Even though I bought my SPRWF & OGRMF lower- I got a pretty good beating today. I had some serious gains in those, now I have semi -serious .

      The charts aren’t bad, but the selling sure feels uncomfortable.

      And I sold MYMMF and it dropped and reversed almost back to where I sold it. Big reversal, but I didnt get a big reversal in my OGRMF . Ugh.

  17. Kathleen Chow
    Kathleen Chow says:

    If this is Day 1 of gold’s 2nd DCL, then what is the count with regards to the miners? I’ve always had difficulty keeping track. Thanks for helping me figure it out:)

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      I’m hoping that we just use GOLD’s Cycle count & the MINERS follow or begin to lead the way.
      The Miners have been choppier and left the impression that they could have bottomed earlier than Gold, but I’m just watching for them to catch fire & break to new highs. If they don’t run very strongly in the next daily cycle…

      …. They will be considered too weak for a good 3rd daily cycle, and we’ll cross that bridge at that time.

      • Kathleen Chow
        Kathleen Chow says:

        Thank you, CF. Yes, it makes sense to watch things this way instead of getting confused (well, I get confused easily lol!) by the counting of cycles.

  18. miller
    miller says:

    Gold breaking out on the 1hr and 4 hr. If it can get through the congestion around 1352 and break back into the prior channel,
    it should run to 1362 pretty quick,, If it does, Id guess then a back test and if it holds its off to the races.cWe could bang around in the congestion zone 1349-1355 for a bit as well before breaking, only my opinion, time will tell.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2f787b60f91c8bf9bd20cc3ab2dbcc0704fb523c20e85804c327abf4c8bfcf1a.png

  19. BayTrader
    BayTrader says:

    Well my trading acct is a little happy with my Miners and some other tech adds and NOG… My IRA is happy again with that AAPL beat.

    • miller
      miller says:

      That guys delusional,,hell make some money only from the reversion to the mean but pot stocks will easily be 100 billion plus business in the next 5 years.

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