Feb 7th – Flush And Then A Fresh Start?

The recent flush down of the markets is viewed by some as alarming and even terrifying, but in a bull market,  it’s often just a necessary flush of excess bullishness and a re-set to a fresh start.  It takes time to see exactly how this will play out,  but let’s take a look at the recent flush down and discuss those  possibilities…

 

SPX #1 – After a strong reversal, the SPX had a large ‘sell on strength’.  My thoughts? We just might not get the V-Bottom that many expect.  This still may be our ‘Lows’ for now, and I will show you what I am thinking shortly.  This was a massive flush down compared to any other pullback on this chart.  Please read the chart.

 

 

 It is usually safer to buy a swing low, but waiting for a ‘confirmed swing low’  after such a drastic drop can cause you to buy a lot higher.  The 10sma is left at the top with this kind of a drop, so when we see  a strong reversal, in Technical Analysis,  you can buy it with a stop under the lows.   I wanted to discuss something here though.  I hear many expecting a “V-Bottom and off to blue skies” again, so I am going to show you similar times when that was not the case-  just to prepare everyone for possibilities.  You should be aware that this can V-Bottom or ‘W’ bottom too.

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SPX #2 – This is more of the V-Bottom and it is a way that many get left behind. Many are just too shook up to buy near the lows & find that a ‘short covering rally’ & ‘steady buying’ can rocket price higher. We could see that, but are many ‘too shook up to buy right now?’…

SPX #3 – If this was not an ICL,  I have seen this happen as more of a ‘w’ bottom. in fact, take a look at August last year for a smaller version.

SPX #4 –    For a ‘W’ – bottom, the next daily cycle rolls over and forms the ‘w’. Notice the RED BOX.   Also in the Blue box is a V-Bottom & sideways move that eventually back test of the 200sma. These are not things to worry about because we would be buying close enough to the lows, but they are things to know just in case this drops again.  Time will answer many questions, but you try to buy as close to the lows as possible and adjust as things come your way. V-Bottom would be rewarding,  ‘W’- bottom might be frustrating.

 

I had been discussing the possible parabolic blow off top.  Let’s look at this drop  with regard to a parabolic top.

NASDAQ BLOW OFF TOP – Do you see these drops in the choppy zone? Let’s zoom in, we may be seeing that now.

 

NASDAQ BLOW OFF TOP – Zoomed in we see the similarities, roughly a 10% drop and it was a ‘w’ bottom too, to eventually tag the 50sma.

 

QQQ 15 minute chart – People have been buying the reversal each day, but it keeps failing. Again, a  V-Bottom will be rewarding, a ‘W’ – bottom may get frustrating.  I mention this simply because if you are prepared for it, you can plan ahead better if we get a surprise drop. (Sell a weak bounce  vs ride a stronger v-bottom).

QQQ – Plus the QQQ’s are notorious for being a rougher ride after a drop. This may or may not be as easy as the buyers think.  Time will tell, but last year we saw choppiness. Look at the sharp drop in June. We saw new lows a month after that.

 

WTIC – Oil isn’t selling off the way the General Markets did, but the COT still calls for more downside.

The XLE, OIH, and XOP DID sell off like the general markets and reversed in a similar way too. It may be that Energy stocks have bottomed or are about to start bottoming, and will bounce around forming bases above the 200sma as Oil drops down further.

 

I HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT I FEEL THAT GOLD WILL MOVE HIGHER, AND THE USD HAS ANOTHER DAILY CYCLE LOWER.  THIS IS HOW I SEE WHY  THIS IDEA COULD PLAY OUT.  ONLY TIME WILL TELL

 

# 1  USD – The USD peaks L.T. by day 11 and rolls over again into the next dcl. That could allow GOLD to bottom in a dcl now & run higher.

#2 USD – THE USD has room to drop to support and put in an ICL down there and …

#3 EURO – The EURO would push a bit higher along with GOLD

 

#4 EURO – The EURO would then drop to its next dcl as the USD rises out of an ICL, and Gold would pull back too. We’d see a back test of this recent support area.

 

 

 

GOLD – So GOLD would have to put in a dcl soon when the USD tops as L.T.  ( if the above scenario plays out).  The USD can go higher for a couple more days, and also GOLD could run stops near $1300 ( or it could do this overnight too).

 

GOLD – $1300 is also the 50sma and the 50% retrace,  so it makes sense to me. It is not that far down, but Miners are already dropping quite a bit.

 

GDX – Miners have been dropping further than expected, this is why I recommended a ‘safer’  buy of a swing low, and not to ‘keep trying to catch a falling knife’ , as they say.   This is heading back to the ICL levels.  Have I ever seen this before?   Yes, rarely,  but it happened.

 

HUI 2004 – During the Bull run in 2000-2008, HUI dropped deeply while Gold was actually still climbing too. This actually was 2 months of frustration and then it took off to the highs.

 So you can see where we are right now.  It is difficult to recommend buying when most of my readers probably work all day during market hours and have been coming home to see this type of volatility.    That said, a strong reversal like we saw yesterday could have put in ‘the lows for now’, and it is usually a ‘buy’ in technical analysis with a stop under the recent lows.  Volatility may remain until we shake loose more bullishness.   Wouldn’t you say that EVERYONE was very excited to buy this dip, even the ones that are usually very fearful in a sell off were just jumping in day after day?   Has this dip changed sentiment?  Maybe, maybe not.  That said,  My mind wonders if this will be the v-bottom sling shot  lows that leave most behind?  Or as I have pointed out for you to see,  is everyone ‘back in’  and then we get that rough ride, the more frustrating ‘W’-bottom, to change sentiment.   That is just the way my mind thinks, and we won’t know for sure until days later, but either way it can be bought.   As I write this morning, the Dow Futures are down 200 points.

  It may take some time for the dust to settle,  so it is up to you to decide what you feel comfortable doing.  You do have choices in trading.  1. Start small, buying a dip here with a stop under recent lows?  2. Go in heavy and try to sell some on a bounce & ride the rest? 3.  Or waiting for the dust to settle, just to see how things level off, even if it means entering higher.  It does look like the temporary lows were put in yesterday with that strong reversal, so with Futures down, you may get a good pre-market entry in TQQQ, UPRO, etc. if you can handle volatility.  

  Shake ups like we are seeing are actually usually very good for setting up trade ideas.   I did see some promising looking charts finally shaping up in the commodities pull backa nd some semiconductor stocks, etc.  We were buying Metals stocks near the last consolidation lows in Steel, Copper, and Aluminum ,  and while some of these stocks did sell off with the markets recently, others held up nicely.    I want to show you some   examples at the end of the report.   Buying anything in this volatility can be tough, so waiting another day or two is an option that some may want to consider to sleep better at night. Short term active traders may be looking for some set ups to form, and this may be one area setting up.  Missing THE BOTTOM  does not mean missing THE entire %-Gainers if these markets continue higher,  but if they do continue to be volatile, you will sleep better watching for another day.  It is your choice.

   Enjoy your Wednesday trading and well see what Wednesday throws our way.  Thanks for being here…

~ALEX

GGB This formed a very nice W cup, the handle may or may not be done, but it held support and could be at a low. That doesn’t mean that it won’t go sideweays for a while too however.

CLF #1– Taking a look at CLF, it got caught up in the sell off, but it is ugly or closer to a buy with prices on sale? It put in a nice reversal yesterday.

 

 

CLF #2– This could run from $6 to $9 again, and even higher with commodities looking bullish in the big picture.

 

CENX – I saw some pretty good looking reversals in VALE, HBM, CENX, SID, and more.  I think active traders may lok in this area for some short term or medium term trade set ups…

I will let another day go by and probably offer some ‘buy set ups’ if they remain in place after Wednesdays trade, but many of these may be worth a buy for the active traders in front of the screen.  I really liked the look of  SID, GGB, and a few others  short term & Long.  I just want to see how the markets trade today.  You should review this report a 2nd time if you have time, there is a lot to digest here, but you will be well informed.

 

 

132 replies
  1. Peter
    Peter says:

    Thanks, Alex. For those of us still holding miners and possibly leverage, and don’t want to sell at lows, what would be the point to “cut bait”. A drop below the ICL low in GDX/J?

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      I’ve tried to answer this 3 times but keep deleting it because of the leverage part …

      I grabbed a small position in leverage myself ( And still holding AUMN, but it isnt dropping much),
      some Juniors arent dropping like CDE, AKG, MUX, AUY, GORO etc – but they are near or at the 50sma. You could decide
      on a stop or not there, and just get back in if it turns higher.

      Leverage is the demon of the pack, because ( Just for example) JNUG already dropped from $20 to $13 in 2 weeks. If it had 2 of those 20% down days- that is painful- on the other hand when they flip, it can reverse like the market did yesterday and go from $13 to $15.60 in a 20% gainer type day. SO when to let go? If I say sell it today and it is at $17 by friday- you hate me 🙂

      I have a hard time giving advice on leverage – that is why I usually don’t…I say that you must trade it based on your own experience and not let the losses pile up.

      I dont know where you bought it- so you have to decide what kind of loss is too much, as we have seen, these miners can sell off day after day, but when buyers step in, they run up in the same manner

      The ICL should not be broken, but Miners and GOLD are out of synch.

      • Peter
        Peter says:

        Thanks for the detailed reply. I have losses as I’m sure others do too, but I’ve learned that usually after I capitulate, these leverage funds usually start going up. However, I am concerned about the short IC cycle scenario in the off chance the dollar put in an ICL. So, I can handle weathering a draw down but don’t want to be stupid at the same time. Hence, I’m trying to figure that point where it’s clear things aren’t going to improve.

        • chartfreak1
          chartfreak1 says:

          I know – If the USD put in an ICL, it would give it weeks of trading above that ICL low. If it was a daily cycle ( as shown in todays report) , it would drop, Euro would Pop, Gold should put in a dcl.

          I like the set up & hate the set up at the same time 🙂 As long as you’re not too heavily invested, you can add on a swing low ( even adding on an unconfirmed swing low as long as it gets back above the 50sma ) and should do well.
          VERY WELL if that is just the start of the 2nd daily cycle & we get a good 2nd run.

          • Peter
            Peter says:

            I would rather a 50% unrealized loss that recovers instead of a 30% realized loss where I wait too long to re-enter because of the whole mental capital thing.

          • chartfreak1
            chartfreak1 says:

            I think I’ve done both of those – maybe not 50% , but an unrealized loss that recovered for sure, buying an ICL early. Sometimes the rally out is like slingshot

          • Peter
            Peter says:

            I feel that I need to go through this to grow though and improve as a trader as corny as that sounds. It’s been a rough few weeks, especially lately, and learning from this is the best path. Just need to convince my brain of that.

          • chartfreak1
            chartfreak1 says:

            I have definitely been through that, a heavy draw down and looking back later ( hopefully after a full recovery and rally higher) you can see where you debated selling, where you may wish you did, where you would get back in if you did, etc etc & it is a learning lesson.

            The lessons in a Bull market set up cost much less than the ones I’ve learned in bear market sell offs

          • Peter
            Peter says:

            Yeah, I got overconfident in the miners continuing to rally and threw my stop loss strategies out the window. In retrospect I would have gotten out at break even and re-entered….probably today!

      • Edward Bernhart
        Edward Bernhart says:

        Great lesson, Alex. I certainly appreciate the advice (or follow-up) you give and is just a bonus with your recommendations. The line in the sand is what we need to know and you usually scribe it very well.

        • chartfreak1
          chartfreak1 says:

          Thank you Edward – This has been a pretty big rough patch in the chart world- and it was right across the board. Usually in the past , opportunity does come after the dust settles , I am still thinking that that will be the case here too. 🙂

  2. Bill
    Bill says:

    Thanks ALex, I did jump back in to the market Yesterday. I wasn’t considering a W bottom. It looked like a a V bottom to me. I’ll keep it in mind moving forward. I know you don’t have a crystal ball but you’re usually on point. Thanks

        • Steve Tytler
          Steve Tytler says:

          As a long-time trader of TQQQ I know that it has a tendency to revisit lows after about 1-3 weeks, so don’t be surprised if it dips back down and does the “W” recovery Alex has mentioned. In the past, I have tried to trade around the dip thinking I could sell half at the short term top and buy back in near the bottom, but that rarely works in a strong bull market. More often than not I ended up having to chase so I’m just trying to hang on this time.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      I think the reason that the ‘W’ came to mind is that when everyone wants to buy that dip – it usually hasnt removed bullish sentiment, and on CNBC- everyone is dying to buy . When the ‘V’ – rolls over – it scares a lot of people into thinking “Lower highs, this is going down” – and a “W” does the sentiment busting that it ought to.

      It doesn’t HAVE TO play out this way, but even in NAZ parabolic top, we had one on the way up.

  3. Ralph Wiederzane
    Ralph Wiederzane says:

    Not only does it seem lots of people were happily buying into the rout, on sites I visit many are already gloating and giving high fives! It´s rarely that easy, but maybe it was this time. I´m fully focused on miners so don´t have to worry about the stock market just yet, will give it another day or two like CF before I decide to get involved. Feel dosen´t count for much in trading, but I do feel the downside might not be done just yet. This is the first time in awhile that we saw any dislocations like the XIV volatility etf vaporizing overnight.

  4. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    Yesterday I mentioned that Blockchain stocks had nice reversals, but I didnt try it.

    RIOT was at $10.40 lows yesterday – it is trading at $16 pre-market. Many are up now

  5. Cason
    Cason says:

    Trying to hold on to my TQQQ from yesterday, stop $1 below yesterday’s low. If this is ‘B’ we won’t violate that low.

  6. Cason
    Cason says:

    Time to realize that we were wrong on miners. Appreciate all of the other scenarios so that we can flex our plan. Job now is to try to get out safely, don’t really want to sell at the bottom of a free-fall (but I’ve certainly done that before!!!)

  7. Edward Bernhart
    Edward Bernhart says:

    Don’t know who mention AEYE in the comments but thank you very much. Have been holding a buying the dips.

  8. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    Today would be an awesome day for a bullish engulfing in GDXJ. Why, because no one wants to buy them anymore (Finally)

    Note; so far it is just a bounce in a down trend, but something to watch for

  9. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    As mentioned yesterday – some of the blockchains are shaping up finally.

    LOOK AT RIOT & MGTI using only a 10sma, you will see what I mean. DPW could break today too. This is kind of what I have been looking for for my own personal day trades.

    Recommending these in reports may or may not happen for a while….this is risky stuff until it stabilizes

        • chartfreak1
          chartfreak1 says:

          Based on what I wrote above, I actually bought 2 – MGTI as it crossed the 10sma & DPW.
          Was going to buy RIOT yesterday but decided to wait.

          I’m not really recommending them, they trade fast and I’m trying to figure them out.

          Just testing the waters – taking them out for a test drive, see if they can reach their 50sma. Tight stops

    • cannaber
      cannaber says:

      I was close to pulling trigger on GBTC but didn’t yesterday at around 10.75….my target already reached, not sure I would keep holding, as I see a risk of volatile retest is high…..I really want to load it up at $8.00

  10. cannaber
    cannaber says:

    I am pretty convinced we are within 48 hours of the gold turn…..hoping for that overnight flush and a gap low open tomorrow

  11. Ralph Wiederzane
    Ralph Wiederzane says:

    I´ve put a few orders in to add to my miners below the market, stocks like SVBL that hang in ok. If we get a quick flush I should get some good fills. No way I´m selling into this move lower, so might as well do some buying!

  12. Ralph Wiederzane
    Ralph Wiederzane says:

    Weakness in bonds is where the recent rout started, and bonds are terribly weak again after a pathetic bounce. The stock market might not be out of the woods in that case, either.

  13. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    I went to lunch, just got back. Saw Gold selling off from my phone & was looking for Miners to resist the sell off. They do seem to be and here is why I say that…

    Some Miners still green. See EGO, HMY, GORO , PZG, SA, SBGL, SAND, etc

    I dont want people to jump the gun based on what I am saying, BUT watch Miners as the day progresses… choose for yourself. GOLD JUST HIT 1310 – Miners not dropping anymore.

    GDXJ is not really breaking down, it is only at this mornings lows ( This may be a basic re-test?)

    ** This morning Gold was GREEN when GDXJ dropped down here, Now Gold is dropping toward $1300 and GDXJ is only at the same level. Miners might be getting accumulated

    I BOUGHT JNUG AT $13 AT THESE LOWS & CAN USE A TIGHT STOP, but do not follow me if you are worried that we could gap down tomorrow too. We could. We have plenty of time to watch this play out. I think Gold may be running the stops & timing is late.

    refresh

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  14. Tammie
    Tammie says:

    You know what I need? I just need President Trump to tweet out something like this: “You know, I am for states rights in this marijuana issue…..we have work to do, have things to get changed, things to do, but we’re going to get it worked out and the states will be ok to do what they want to do…..I’m all for states rights…” and then RMHB and MCOA can go to $1 and I’ll be a super happy camper. Super. Happy.

  15. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    Many blockchain look to be doing a midday gap fill. RIOT dropped back down, and DPW.
    I’m interested in seeing if they gap fill & reverse higher or just gap up & reversal.

    Market volatility still evident, and I expected that with yesterdays Sell On Strength numbers.
    DOW traded in a 500 point range today ( Not a rocket ship higher like many expected)
    NASDAQ traded in 117 point range.

    Sometimes it takes days or even weeks until the dust settles if we dont get a solid V-Bottom.

  16. cannaber
    cannaber says:

    looks like we are finding support in the SPY here ….I figure another leg into Friday is coming, 276-279 area

    • Tammie
      Tammie says:

      I got in this morning….what a wild ride….at one point up .70 then another point down .70 or so…..I even bought a little more when it was down at one point, just to watch it keep going down after that……thought about getting more after that but held off….probably should have gone ahead and gotten more….real roller coaster…but if it goes to $12 I’ll think it was all fun….:P

  17. Steve Tytler
    Steve Tytler says:

    FYI … I sold some of my TQQQ early this morning and moved the money into UDOW because the stock indices do not all trade in unison. As I am typing this TQQQ is -1% while UDOW is +3% and both have been bouncing up and down all day. Over the past year and a half, the Dow and NASDAQ 100 have outperformed the S&P and somewhat surprisingly the Dow has been the leader most of the time rather than the Q’s. I’m not encouraging anyone to follow me, just providing something to think about. Please check your own charts and make your own trading decisions, I just wanted to let people know that I am not all in TQQQ, I am now split between TQQQ and UDOW. Some traders like to go 50/50 I’m currently 66/33 in favor of TQQQ but that ratio is subject to change as I watch the markets over the next few days. Good trading to all!

  18. Ralph Wiederzane
    Ralph Wiederzane says:

    Cancelled buy orders in miners, this is not inspiring in the least, other than the fact GDXJ is hardly down.

  19. Ralph Wiederzane
    Ralph Wiederzane says:

    Decided to trim 1/3 of remaining miner positions at the close. Absolutely hate selling into weakness, but they can´t go up when stocks up, or crashing, so I can stay 60% invested and will look to re enter another day.

      • Ralph Wiederzane
        Ralph Wiederzane says:

        I still have more than am comfortable with, but after riding up great gains back to slightly red, I had to trim something. Let´s hope I got caught selling at a short term low, so we get a few days bounce I would still welcome.

        It´s part of the game when pressing for the big winners, so I will just have to live with it and try again.

    • Cason
      Cason says:

      Stocks go down, miners are equities so they go down. Stocks go up then we don’t need gold so with gold down, miners go down. This is classic bear market PM behavior.

  20. Bill
    Bill says:

    Miners and gold so close to a bottom. GDX is $0.10 away from an 88.6% retrace. Gold is $10 from completing the H&S pattern. DUST is pushing at resistance at $28. Watch fireworks overnight. Gap down and recovery tomorrow. I cant see GDX forming a double bottom.

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