Nov 30 – Waiting For The Final Flush?

Yes, I’m talking about Gold again…

I’m starting with Gold tonight

As I began writing the report tonight, I was gathering a chart of Gold and then FLUSH, Gold dropped straight down more than $10. If this recovers by the morning, that could be the final flush, and I say this because the Miners did not break their lows again today, while Gold sold off $15+ during open market hours.

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GOLD – Seriously, this is Day 38 for Gold.  None of these Mini bounces qualify as a full cycle. Gold is stretched a lot further than I have seen Gold stretch in prior Bull market dips. On day 38 we should at least get a bounce to the 50sma soon.  Believe me, you are tired of hearing it, and I am tired of writing it, but these markets usually rally after a crash and cycle timing is very late.Even Bear markets find ICL’s and rally for 2 daily cycles.

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GDX – If Gold recovers overnight, then tonight is a final flush, and the GDX chart will not even reflect the dip. If it gaps down, Both GOLD & MINERS should put in a low on the same day, rather than to continue out of sync. I see divergence and some miners have been holding up well despite all of Gold & Silvers selling.

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I still hold GPL, AUMN, NAK, and I am ready to deploy cash (Again) on a good solid reversal. This has been a brutal bottoming process, but some Miners are still not really being overly when Gold & Silver sell off. If you own positions, I always say to honor your stops or at least keep mental stops and be ready to sell if something gets way out of the ordinary on Thursday.  I do hate to see anyone sell out at the lows though  🙁   I wanted to show possible buy set ups today, but Golds overnight flush ruined that idea. There will be time for that if we see signs of a true bottom.

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SPX – a high volume reversal off of the highs usually leads to a dip. We are within timing for a 1/2 cycle low ( HCL).

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USD – The USD is still acting bullishly, and the pause has been on a support area. When Gold dropped $10 in a heart beat tonight, the USD didn’t really move, so it wasn’t caused by a spike in the USD . Timing-wise, the USD is due for a dcl so it should continue to dip down or drift sideways.

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From Wednesday mornings report.

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WTIC – Oil made a HUGE 9% move today when OPEC discussed production cuts. Interestingly, this brought it right back to the trendline that it broke through on Oct 31 and back tested last week.  DID OPEC CHANGE THINGS, since we were expecting Oil to drop further with a failed daily cycle? We will know very soon.  Follow through above this trend line and especially new highs would be a good indication that OIL is recovering on the cut backs. This is only day 11 of a 30-50 day cycle, so this has a good amount of time to trade once it becomes clear which factor prevailed  ( The Failed daily cycles bear or OPECs supply cut bull). That was very strong move with strong volume, shorts were caught on the wrong side of that OPEC mtg.

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These jumpy markets have just been kicking butt since the Trump Election and the various changes since then. It has been tough trading in many areas. 

 

WPX –  Please read the chart. Maybe this will be a bullish area to trade, we will know very soon, but these energy stocks look good.

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Among other things, quite a bit of my analyses is based on sentiment and ‘timing’ using cycles. The ‘timing’ aspect is usually very helpful and consistent, and it gets us in right near the final lows when the normal timing for a cycle is running out. Not this time.  With this area in the Precious metals sector, we are seeing Gold just continue to defy traders and keeps flushing down a bit more and more.  Occasionally that happens, it is quite rare.  This almost has me believing that when it does start moving higher,  it could sling shot out of the lows and rip higher in a flurry of short cover.  In the meantime, it just sucks the life out of those ready to go long.  Traders are tired…tired of being worried about the next shoe to drop. This is when people give up, and often that is when a rally begins.  It is a devious market at critical times.

Some miners do seem to be resisting the drop, as shown in prior reports.  This is a ray of hope, because they usually get roasted when Gold drops $15. When Gold dropped $15 with the markets open on Wednesday, GDX did not break to new lows. HL, PAAS, GPL, AUMN, etc etc did not turn ugly.

 

HL pointed out yesterday

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Today –  No big devastation

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So yes,  it is frustrating and it seems like a big waste of time waiting for this trade to manifest itself.  I would say that if Gold keeps being pulled down and stretched lower over time,  there is a good chance that we get a sling shot out of the lows, starting with shorts covering and then buyers stepping in.  Just when everyone falls asleep and gives up on this sector for good, it should be ready to move higher.  I know, I almost doubt it myself  🙂  I am still holding my positions at this point.  I’m releasing this Wednesday night, lets see what Thurday has up it’s sleeves in Precious metals and Oil / Energy.

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~ALEX

 

Gold trying to recover as I wrote the report.

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269 replies
  1. deshy
    deshy says:

    Alex, what do you think about a slow go nowhere dec for $GC just to bore people? I say this b/c IF this is a bull and we are just finishing the YC the last month seems like quite a climb to get a swing low. Wonder if we’re more likely to have a quiet dull dec–confirms to everyone that this is “weak sauce”–but what is happening is that the threshold for a SL gets significant lower and Jan 2017 becomes the month to be in? Just story telling…we seem to be in for lots of unbelievable things these day in the market so why not? cheers

  2. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    I was running through my Energy list, and several look overbought already and with that huge gap open, it is tough to say if they will continue higher or consolidate.

    I wanted to find some that may just be starting out of a base. A low risk set up with a stop placed just a little under my buy .

    Refresh for a chart

    BTE looks pretty good here ( Due diligence, check when earnings is released, this may affect price) For BTE- Earnings came out Nov 2nd.
    CHK looked good, but has a gap.
    I will look for a few more later this a.m.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/48a60951494c853a0e9db347d86b70cecd7f9c589b56ca3bb753b2bf30c0efe5.jpg

  3. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    AREX – So we have a failed daily cycle on Oil, and the current leap yesterday was back testing the trend line break down. I still want to watch oil today, but if it can break back above that trend line, Oil / Energy stocks may have a renewed leg higher.
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    this is over bought, but it can remain that way since it is just breaking out now. Earlier this year, this just kept climbing higher and higher when it ran

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/544ee6849858df518a00858518ffca5074a1f891eb529c58cee3de9b6a42636e.jpg

  4. Cason
    Cason says:

    Tough decision point here…didn’t get a good break either way. GDX down 16-18 cents, hard even for me to find that apocalyptic! However, we need to start going up, not down for once. Continuing to watch tick by tick, Yawn!

  5. nancytheartist
    nancytheartist says:

    Alex, after reading your report, I wanted to see how far down gold dropped overnight. I had noticed yesterday I had a different low than you and others had. I checked finviz, gold price and kitco. All three were different…??? What do you use and why?

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      I was watching it live – they all showed the same price, but some charts wont show the premarket or after hrs trading, so stcokcharts, for example, doesn’t show yesterdays break of the lows, but it happened.

      Live, FINVIZ and KITCO were accurate as far as I could tell.

      • nancytheartist
        nancytheartist says:

        When I looked Finviz had low as $1163.80, Gold Price had spot gold low at $1164.84, and Kitco had the low at $ 1166.50. Just to give you the figures I got.

  6. kathleenchow
    kathleenchow says:

    In the GDX section of today’s report, when Alex wrote “If it gaps down, Both GOLD & MINERS should put in a low on the same day, rather than to continue out of sync,” did he mean that both gold & miners should put in this low today (since gold is down pre-market) or it could happen anytime in the next few days? Thanks, just wanted some clarity.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      No, He is saying that if you look at the lows in Gold and the lows in GDX, they are not on the same day.

      All he meant was ” IF they both make new lows today, they both have lows and cycle counts starting from the same day, rather than what we see right now. Right now GDX still bottomed a week ago and those lows have not been violated.

  7. Marco
    Marco says:

    Alex,
    I think last nights drop of $10/ounce in gold could have been due to last nights FT article that the Chinese are putting limits on physical gold imports as a way of reducing USD capital flight as they try to defend the Yuan

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      I see GDX green in premarket.

      Please….may the lows in Gold finally be in place with last nights instant slam down & recovery. The fact that GDX didnt drop to new lows with Gold down $15 during the open market is a good sign. If it is up today, we may finally get some follow through on some of these Miners, and a break above the 10sma in GDX / GDXJ.

  8. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    Oils follow through puts it back above that trend line break down from Oct 31, and above $50 ( That alone will draw a good amount of attention)..

    Energy stocks are going to benefit. I really liked the ones that were not extended ( DNR, AREX, BTE, and so on).

  9. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    This is not trade advice, this could be very tricky, but with OIL back above $50 – I would not be surprised if we saw another round of SHIPPERS sailing away higher.

    Very dangerous for those not in front of the screen, and even for those who are. Just thinking out loud here

  10. Ken
    Ken says:

    Gold:
    I am finally able to count 5 waves for this current C wave Wave 2 correction…Gold is close to a bottom….imo.
    I will be buying/adding based on the following:
    Cycle is extended in this current DCL. ICL within timing.
    EW is close to a C wave bottom correction.
    Stochs oversold. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/943a531ba14499a260312c2274bb1c8899023c0312036790e8d145019edb4209.png
    62% Fib Retrace.
    Sentiment is currently extreme.
    I am planning on buying the 1st. tranche on a daily swing buy signal. Stop below the previous days lows.
    2nd. tranche on a close above the 10 dma.
    A close below the Dec. 2015 Lows all bets are off the table and the bear market resumes and this current year was all a bear market corrective wave.

    This is all about Risk Reward, small risk with a much higher potential of Reward, exactly what I look for.

      • Ken
        Ken says:

        Somewhat skewed based on election night …..
        Quite possible that another small wave down is possible….before C wave is complete…imo.

        • chartfreak1
          chartfreak1 says:

          Yes, another drop down for v – that was why I asked when I saw that count. . If i & ii cannot be the same candle, especially since ii is where that day opened and i is where it closed ( reverses the direction) , it would then place i at your iii / ii at your iv / etc and extend the count down.

          Or just do away with that mini count and it could still be complete with the a-b-c and a 1-2-3-4-5 count in your c

  11. Siva
    Siva says:

    Gold may be waiting for direction/catalyst…
    tomorrow may be the day … gold may be up to jobs report.
    Accumulating at the right price (JNUG @6.50) siting tight (only mental stop)…

  12. Markm
    Markm says:

    Yen slam down again – gold follows. Relentless. Until the BoJ and algo’s allow the Yen to pause and rise, its tough for gold to change trend. I know…broken record. still waiting.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      I know- I’m looking to buy some Energy stocks if they gap fill today, to hedge my miners.

      PKD is a big base, waiting to break out? I like less extended ones like NOG, AREX, BTE, etc

      AUMN still holding up, but my GPL is finally selling off today. Still above the 50sma, but I do not want to see it break the 50sma. I can always sell and watch it for another entry if that happens. I have Oct lows buys in this, so I actually could lock in gains.

      • Tammie
        Tammie says:

        I got some NOG yesterday…it was up nicely earlier today but has dropped now….I’m thinking of getting more….that and NADL…been watching AREX and though some of the others have pulled back since oil back off a bit it has stayed up nicely…

      • Tammie
        Tammie says:

        Also – OIL etf has held it’s gains today while oil itself has pulled back slightly…interesting….some oil companies pull back but not the OIL etf…..curious.

  13. Crawdaddy
    Crawdaddy says:

    Perhaps if one does decide to ; FLUSH ; their miners, it may be wise to hold on to their NAK shares. I would hate to not have a position if good news comes from the ongoing meetings. I would protect the position with a dab of DUST and a loose stop untill the smoke clears. Just a thought.

  14. Tammie
    Tammie says:

    Looks like oil has resistance at $51…but if it can pull past that then maybe can get to $52 before more resistance…?

  15. Ken
    Ken says:

    Negative on owning physical gold is that it does not earn interest so why would Bonds which are in a down trend (interest rates increasing) be leading Gold or vice versa ?

  16. Carlnetscouts
    Carlnetscouts says:

    Seems like the biggest down moves today are in the big caps AEM, NEM, most of the lower priced stocks are down a little and some are up some. Waiting for an actual rally. When it happens it will be a good one. Interesting that I typed an “r” instead of an “a” when trying to type “actual” and the word that came up was “rectal”.

  17. SonOfGud
    SonOfGud says:

    DRYS had 5M shares bought at open.
    i just got me a $100 lottery ticket (just 20 shares)
    even a 23% retrace gets 400% increase
    long shot, i know

  18. Glmus
    Glmus says:

    I had to take my i3 in for a software update (instead of an oil change). Got back about 30 min ago to see lots of red – red sea.
    I have several hourly pre-buys and my acct has improved, but want to see a JNUG hourly buy at least before I can say hooray.
    My GSS was doing well, but it is stinky today, down 10%.

  19. SonOfGud
    SonOfGud says:

    my energies are keeping me sane
    BCEI +30% TPLM +24% LGCY+22%
    i didnt buy massive amounts, but they have managed to keep my account more or less level for past few days

  20. Glmus
    Glmus says:

    For those who like some warm fuzzies, I got some hourly pre-buys on JNUG and GDX. What I need next is hourly buys, then daily pre-buys, then a daily BUY! Not yet. Keep in mind, these pre-buys/buys can disappear during the day.
    By the way, it is cold in LV – low 40s. That’s why I like the warm fuzzies.

  21. R Byram
    R Byram says:

    Mux is definitely trying to show the others how to behave – it’s almost break-out material on the 10 minute

  22. merges
    merges says:

    Gold and GDX trying here – – – near high of day. Reminded of the kid’s book “The Little Engine That Could”. “I think I can. I think I can”, says the red caboose.

  23. Glmus
    Glmus says:

    Things are perking up. My acct is heading towards zero from below, half are green for the day, and I am getting several DAILY buys. JNUG, GDX, GDXJ are green. Can this be IT?

  24. Edward Bernhart
    Edward Bernhart says:

    The story line for today(I hope) is that all good things come to pass for he who patiently waits for the final flush!

      • chartfreak1
        chartfreak1 says:

        it’s a mental stop anyways, but todays lows shouldn’t be taken out for GDX / GDXJ from here if Gold is doing a reversal low. They couldnt even take the lows out when Gold was selling off.

      • chartfreak1
        chartfreak1 says:

        I can’t tell you? : )

        My biggest purchase was one that I dont recommend x3, and it’s currently up 20 cents from my buy price?

        Is that vague and obvious enough?

        We are at day 40 for Gold. It has to be a reversal low.

          • chartfreak1
            chartfreak1 says:

            You’re using logic? : – )

            I thought that Trump s economic plan would send metals higher ( Steel, Copper, Aluminum). So if those prices rise quickly, and they have, isnt that Inflation?

            If inflation is bullish for Gold, and Gold spiraled down….I give up on logic : )

            HOWEVER, I am a trader in front of my screen and can watch these positions – a Gap down on Jobs # may stop me out, but it will not shake my ability to get back up & get back in on another reversal.

            waiting for GDX to close above the 10sma is prudent for some.

            Others may want to wait until next week, not hold over the weekend .

            I am different from that, I hold over the weekends all the time.

          • Tammie
            Tammie says:

            haha! Neither logic nor throwing at a dart board has done a lot for me lately….so….:) 🙂 I am wondering if the #’s will look good because of November holiday/Thanksgiving hiring…..then more hiring in December for holidays…

          • Glmus
            Glmus says:

            Darn, my chart shows that GDX hit 21.11 while the 10sma was at 21.07 so I bought the strongest stocks. On Mon we closed above the 10sma, but pooped out the next day. I am still green with 30 min to go hoping for a rally. 🙂 There is a bottom nearby if not here.

          • Cason
            Cason says:

            Should react poorly to a high number and well to a lower number. I think tomorrow less important. Dec is a foregone conclusion. The number would need to be wacky high or low to really catch attention. A middle of the road # should be a non-event. Should. But everything has been an event for gold recently.

        • kathleenchow
          kathleenchow says:

          If it is what I think it is, I added as we went green, figuring I’d put a stop under lod. Yes, mine is the x3 hah!

        • Shermo
          Shermo says:

          lol….. That’s what I work with……5 minute 30 minute and daily….both ways with the 3x etf’s…..I’m close to your calls Alex because……I know the low is not going to get past you…..I follow the winners….thanks.

  25. Bob
    Bob says:

    Alex- great insight and tenacity- bought 1500 JNUG at 6.45- sold at 6.99 more than doubling the cost of the subscription. Many more GPL, SSRI, HL, USLV,SA and CEF that will hold for a while. Thanks to all who post as well.

  26. Glmus
    Glmus says:

    My acct is still green, but seems to be pausing. JNUG was up 5%, but is now up 3+%. Some that I bought are down a smidge. My hourly pre-buy indicators are indicating hourly pullbacks. The good news is that there are lots of daily and weekly pre-buys and several daily buys. Several favs like HL, GPL, AEM, PAAS etc. have not joined the fun.

  27. Ken
    Ken says:

    So typical:
    BB’s Sell PM’s down heavy while at the same time Buy SM with a classic overthrow at New Highs…..Then reverse !

  28. Glmus
    Glmus says:

    Most of the stocks I bought in my RATIONAL exuberance are down a little. A rally to the close would be helpful. 🙂

    • Glmus
      Glmus says:

      Using the 10 min, we have stopped (so far) short of the 50% retracement from the low at the beginning of the day. Thus, a good place to resume the rally (I hope). Exciting day!

  29. Tammie
    Tammie says:

    Got EPE earlier in the day since I had wanted to get it yesterday….it proceeded to fall after I bought…..until now here at EOD it seems to be reversing…..it’s still under what I bought at but sure glad to see it reverse…hoping some of the oil companies just taking a breather since they ran and will resume uptrend…I still think oil is trying to get over that $51 and stay there….hopefully….

  30. Ken
    Ken says:

    Maria,
    Would you be willing and able to overlap TLT and GLD thru Tradestation for me?
    Daily back say 2 years ……
    Thanks in advance…. 🙂

  31. R Byram
    R Byram says:

    I’m not the expert here by any stretch, but to me this just looks like a hopeful nice start a a base at this time. With the dollar still above 1.01 and gold futures at 1173, I just don’t see anything to get me excited yet to risk more.

  32. Tammie
    Tammie says:

    December 7th….confirmation hearing to approve chapter 11 bankruptcy plan for BAS…..says they are hoping to restructure so as to emerge as soon as possible….says the bankruptcy would cancel the company’s roughly 42.76 million shares of common stock…..just a heads up for any holding this…I don’t have it but was researching it in case I wanted to….I won’t be getting it…

    • Crawdaddy
      Crawdaddy says:

      Great post Tommy, that sort of info and Alexei thoughts are the reason I read the comments section. BTW I was not a holder of BAS either. Thanx

      • Tammie
        Tammie says:

        Thanks! I don’t always read as closely as I should on some of these but if see something big I try and remember to post it 🙂

    • Cason
      Cason says:

      Yet it was up 5.5% today. Poor BAS. Did you see their earnings report Q3 this summer? It clearly showed they were headed to bankruptcy. One of the top 3 worst earnings I’ve seen in my lifetime.

  33. Bill
    Bill says:

    Alex, All, IF, IF the markets are rolling over, and there ends up being a sell off, would it be likely that money flows into miners and PMs? If so that may be the catalyst we all need. I have generally seen miners sell off with the stock market, but they are so pounded I cannot see further downside. This afternoon was encouraging.

  34. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    I like what I saw today.

    GORO, SA, and MUX and a few others closed above their 10sma with Gold still red.

    I was hoping GDX would too, but some miners lead others, and those juniors seem to be leading GG, ABX, NEM ( GDX).

  35. Cason
    Cason says:

    Uh…why are me all messing around doing poorly with these lowsy miners, check out the move in nat Gas today. Whoah!!

    • nancytheartist
      nancytheartist says:

      I thought oil was headed down per the reports …I got spooked and took losses [with taxes in mind] last week. Now, they are all flying up…even SGY which tortured me in its almost bankrupt state for months! I am loaded in metals all bought way too early and held way too long. I am really hoping gold goes up so I can get my money back out!

      • Cason
        Cason says:

        Nancy, no one expected OPEC to not only agree but cut. That’s a black Swan event and that was NOT in the charts. The oil and natural gas charts are different.
        Same boat here with miners. Up to 90% hope at this point. I have nothing else to offer there but hope.

  36. Cason
    Cason says:

    London open wasn’t kind to gold, but $$ pretty much nuetral overnight. Nothing to do right now but sit and wait for NFP at 0830. Hope we can get a spark here!

  37. Cason
    Cason says:

    Pulled up gold COT from last week (due to US holiday was not published until Monday). No significant change, not enough to even cut and paste here. Next will be after today’s close. Will check the see if last Wed slam introduced a change. If so will post tonight.

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