Nov 9th – Storm Winds In The Future(s)
Sometimes when we are looking out over the horizon, we see what looks like a storm rolling in. Basically there is nothing that you can do, except to be prepared. It is normal to wonder, “Will the winds of change do a lot of damage?” “Will they just be a moment of unsettled turbulence with minimal damage?” “Will we have to pick up an abundance of scattered debris, or will this just pass by?”
We have been taking positions in the Precious Metals markets, so this storm may be just like riding the rapids for most of us, if things do not change by the morning. The General Markets, on the other hand, are taking a good hit tonight for those trading in that area. We just have to watch how things settle after the storm surge passes. Let me show you why…
While counting the votes, TRUMP was taking the lead and it looked like he was winning key states. I looked up Gold , which was down about $1.00 one hour earlier, and GOLD reacted this way. Gold shot up $30 and Silver had already been climbing during the day. The USD dropped like a rock.
So I started taking a look at the Futures, and this was a rather unexpected reaction. The dow was down about 500 points at one point, the SPX down almost 70. click to enlarge.
At this point I’ll say that tonight or tomorrow morning, nothing that I write in the report is going to be particularly eye opening. I am going to release a few thoughts now, and my biggest recommendation is that we have to see how this plays out after the storm surge of emotions eases up. I gather my charts at night, and I had gathered a couple of charts already. I will share ideas in this report as a “Here is where we left off”.
SPX – I expected the SPX to rise for maybe 3 days and it stopped right at the 50sma. Lows will be taken out and stops will be run tomorrow if nothing changes.
WTIC – I didn’t like the Oil set up, so I avoided it. It looked like a bear flag at this point.
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I drew this next chart of Gold thinking that the first question that most would ask is , “If this POP sticks into the open, do we just sell the Pop as an emotional reaction?” My answer is that coincidentally, we can look at the BREXIT reaction for a possible idea, because the timing is similar.
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GOLD –
We were expecting a daily cycle low then, we were expecting a daily cycle low now. The Brexit Pop shot up and pulled back a bit by the end of the day. We then saw about a 4 day pause and a continuation higher. The set up is very similar now, and since we were expecting a DCL and a POP, the move may just stick, pause, and then continue higher.
So it will be very tempting to sell if this POP stays with us until the open. Maybe selling a partial position would be fine, but I am going to see how things play out. We have been accumulating positions since early October, however, also consider that this will be day 1 of a 2nd daily cycle. It is not likely to just give up the gains early on.
GOLD LIVE 11 P.M. Eastern time- It is looking like it is off to the races and will break the overhead trend line soon.
GOLD 15 minute – The election results are not final yet. This possible bull flag looks like GOLD could even propel higher if the results finish as they are currently being recorded ( a Trump win).
SO WEDNESDAY is going to be a day of emotions and whip saw with whatever the results turn out to be when all is said and done. It already has been in the futures. As I write, the above reactions are a result of Trump being ahead late in the Polls. In the Morning, this scene could be the same or different, but it is not likely to be calm yet. I am going to just watch how things play out, and if anything gets beyond my liking, I will step aside and allow whatever happens to happen. Honestly, at this time, the futures have moved strongly in our favor, since we focused on the ICL in Precious Metals.
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I do have a request for Wednesday. On crazy days when anything can happen, many times readers will like to ask me questions ( or they ask everyone for an opinion) in the comments section. I would like to be able to help if I am around. I have difficulty reading through the comments and finding questions directed to me when I leave for a few hours and return after many have posted the comical avatars and other gifs , etc. I am not opposed to these and I do find some amusing on an easy, slow, boring day of trading. On a day like Wednesday may prove to be, I find it hard to surf through all of the comments if I leave and return to many added jokes, so I often just skim the comments quickly at that point and may miss a few good ones. Again, on a slow, boring day – no problem, I am probably out riding my bike or getting something done. On a crazy , important trading day? Maybe we can hold off on filling the comments with these until the markets close on Wednesday. That way if some readers have serious questions, we can all help each other ride out the storm. At this point, I do think that most of us are positioned to kill it tomorrow if the futures remain the same. Thanks !
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Best wishes to all, see you in the next report.
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~ALEX
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Alex, Thanks for the report!! Indeed crazy night. If we pop today even if it doesn’t hold this further confirms a RT cycle. However, this late in a cycle I would expect this large bounce to to imply that we are about to start a 2nd DC even though the SL hasn’t happened (I get a lower low from today..I think). Would that be correct? I’m asking because you suggested possibly selling the pop and wonder if I’m missing anything or is that just taking some money off the table?
No Deshy,
I didnt suggest selling the pop at all. What I said is ( Copy / Paste below) …
So it will be very tempting to sell if this POP stays with us until
the open. Maybe selling a partial position would be fine, but I am going
to see how things play out.
I was using the brexit example to point out that the gains held up. I also mentioned that this would be day 1 of a 2nd daily cycle and not likely to give up the gains.
Glad you asked in case anyone else was not clear on that.
When you re-posted the bite size piece above it seems very clear now. Obviously I’ve joined the twitter age where I can’t read more then 140 characters strung together. lol! Thx again!
LOL _ Let me tweet this..
“I’m not selling the pop, personally”
haha. better! Well at 1326/18.85 I’m heading to sleep and leaving a bit of suspense for the am. Thx for the excellent reports and work!
Jeez. I really don’t believe it. I’m not sure the markets can be calmed with this but we’ll see. I had a few sell orders on some gold stocks mainly to redistribute into other gold stocks but I cancelled the orders for now. Assuming Trump wins he isn’t even sworn in until January. What’s going to happen up to then? It sure will be interesting.
Volatility.
It is a close vote in some areas. Do you remember what happened with other close votes?
They wanted to do a recount. recount = more volatility.
Nice timing from you Alex. No one is sleeping tonight. Great report! Thank you!
I hope I can sleep in a bit in the morning, but I know my internal clock will be dying to see if Gold held on to these gains. : )
Gonna have to wake up early on the west coast to see the open. This really could be a game changer.
Echo what Johnny said – thanks for the details and guidance tonight! 🙂
Ur welcome. Get some sleep, your 20 Miners should be comfortably green tomorrow : )
Alex, I was one that posted I wasn’t adding until we confirmed DCL. Well…how about that! I assume it’s not a good place to add, though? We’ve certainly pulled off of he initial complete crazy from last night. Not sure if that’s a good add or wait 2 or 3 days. Of course, in 3 days we could be even higher (which is why I didn’t touch my core – I listened!).
On another note, by 4PM should be free reign for Maria and Tammie to post bitmojis, right?
I have seen under these circumstances in the past, some Miners gap & run and never close those gaos, others gap open and sell off during the day. They end up down for 2 days slightly, and then move higher.
That means there is absolutely no way of knowing what your positions will do. When faced with that, I look at the charts.
We were due for a dcl, this is likely the lows and start of a new daily cycle.
If I was locked out – Starter position & add on possible gap fill is an option.
Sounds great, thanks for your response. I definitely have starter positions so I’m in it to win it this time!
Pull up XBI/IBB/LABU with Dow of 350 points… :O
I think that Clinton was viewed as the biggest threat to Big Bio companies
Absolutely correct but also a Dem senate which was expected to materialize. Interesting though that I picked up on lows scanning the charts on Saturday?? How could they know? 😉
LABU is up 15% in the pre-market.
AG had a bit of a miss on earnings expectations
Looks like it is way up nevertheless. Wish I owned some.
Was it a miss?
I see AG up 10 % in pre-market at this point.
I skimmed the ‘highlights’ and read the fluff as
THIRD QUARTER 2016 HIGHLIGHTS
(compared to Third Quarter 2015)
Silver equivalent production increased 27% to 4.5 million ounces
Silver production increased 20% to 3.1 million ounces – a new quarterly record
All-in sustaining costs (“AISC”) decreased 27% to $10.52 per payable silver ounce
Revenues increased 78% to $79.3 million
Realized average silver price increased 30% to $19.72 per ounce
Mine operating earnings increased 656% to $20.0 million
Net earnings increased 556% to $8.1 million (Basic EPS of $0.05)
My two data sources show 8.81 bid at 8:18 for AG which would be up 8%.
I think you are right. It was the yahoo finance article comparing results to Capital IQ consensus
This info all looks great, imo. Higher yield at lower cost? Bang!
To help Alex, I suggest that if anyone is seeking guidance from him, begin with “For Alex:”. This will make it easier for him to sort for our questions.
For those not sure about oil – pull up 5 day chart of OAS! (I have no position).
Also – COPPER. OH MY!!
Alex: My data shows that NAK is bid .90. That would be a sweet start. Is the .90 what you see too?
I do Gimus, I see it up 20% . I hope thats a true reading
quite strange, earlier mentioned Clinton administration quite beneficial for NAK.
They sit on huge Gold reserves. Their property just increased in price with the price of Gold.
Hi Alex,
Today everyone is in shock (in the asian markets) due to Trump Victory.
We are @CF so happy to hold all miners.
some of my positions are up more than 10% like JNUG up 20% NAK up 20%, AAU up 13% in pre-market
Talk about that old saying ” Being in the right place at the right time”.
Yes, you are right. You really ignore the noise and focusing on miners… Really great job…
Alex, if someone wants to add to positions, is it usually best to jump in pre-market before the doors are open….or wait until doors open? I’m seeing a ton of pre-market trading in some miners, then not so much in others…the ones that have a lot of pre-market trades are likely to have a ton after the doors open, don’t you think?
AG, HMY, AUY……all have lots of trading going on pre-market…..GPL and others not as much (although they are still up, just not as much volume)
It is an unknown. I have seen these events gap open and by noontime, they drift down and close 1/2 the gap.
Other times I’ve seen these events gap & Run, locking out everyone who was waiting to buy.
This is one of those times when it is not easy to know in advance how the 1 day move will proceed
Anybody shed some light on RIC? Not getting that warm and fuzzy feeling from them. Yes they do report tomorrow but so do others (and they seem to be joining the party), but not RIC. Yesterday no beuno–down on good vol. Do I bail or wait for earnings report? Last fwd statements had revised guidance up… I said if it ever came back down I’d buy–now I’m experiencing buyer’s remorse. 🙁 Any insider info appreciated;-)
I have it up 30 cents pre-market, but yesterdays drop was odd.
Thx. ok here’s to my old (ineffective) strategy…”hope” (with closer stops).
Get ready for the account blast off [if you bought metal positions!] It should be fun even if it pulls back!
US$ & Crude Oil both are recovered quite well.
NAK +20%, AKS +16%
Dude, check out X!
How about ZEUS?
cannot resist the gain of 30% LABU. Got the starter position couple of days earlier @29. Sold @39.50
Sweet
PPP is down by 15% is it due to earning? Any one still holding. I had a position long time back @2.60. get out minor loss. Never recovered.
The purple 200 hour MA seems to provide support and resistance – may be a good line in the sand to monitor – just saw post, sorry didn’t know it was going to be so big https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/643ef52dd39afada12a9c54f628361776c8dcd62b99a06bc66d0720d749ce277.png
Seeing some ugly black candles here. Should GDX be acting like this if this is the beginning of a new daily cycle? AG looks great though.
The first half hour is a big disappointment.
Sure she. Glad I diversified into X and LABU! 🙂
Glad I bought some LABU 2 days ago. Hit my first target already. Wow
Bill I sold it this morning with a very good profit.
Nice! I pulled 1 LABU trade off, left 1 on.
I sold in 1 account. I think we retest XBI highs from 3 weeks ago but I was up big, needed to pull some off and not be a pig for once.
Imagine if one had the stones to long a few S&P futures contracts last night. That would have been epic!
Not if you werent done buying yet : )
exceptional work chartfreak ..
#passion #steadfast #conviction
#salesman 😉
Thx Maria.
I think we’re good with Miners going forward, I just hope they do what Steel and other metal stocks are doing : )
AG & SSRI both up more than JNUG & NUGT so far. 12% each
Looks like a successful retest of 1280 for gold, thus far. We’ll see if the stock market starts to resume its selloff.
Crazy moves, you have to love it. Silver dropped and started to move back higher first, so I expect Gold to re-gain some of these morning losses
Picking up VGZ here
now that’s conviction (given it’s down in an otherwise up market)! I haven’t developed those nerves of steel yet, but hope to one day. 🙂
Heads up ! Oil status report in 2 minutes……
Surprisingly a non event….should be down heavy with inventories up…..maybe telling us something?
AREX is up 12%…..OAS 5%…
Gap’s filled! Adding time!
I certainly did not see Bonds taking such a hit….. hmmmm…..Inflation on the horizon !
Inflation likely – Commodities on fire.
CLF, VALE, ZEUS, X, AKS, CENX, STLD, FCX, AA, HBM, etc etc on fire the past 3 days.
I think it’s time for the Miners to catch those bids too
Agree !
Copper the last 10 days……trying to tell us something ya think….. 😉
VGZ not happy right now…..hm…?
Yes. I added some more several days ago and today it is dragging me down. I think this is one we are supposed to keep. It looks okay on the weekly chart.
FWIW: I just got a 30 min buy. Maybe this will lead to something. 🙂
AXU releases earnings after close today….
It seems like it would be a HUGE deal if gold can exceed the overnight high where it hit STIFF resistance – upper trendline begins at Aug ’11 top – Gold futures weekly chart:
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Healthcare stocks (HCA) down big due to Trump election and the possible end to Obama Care……..
Alex, do you think the oil company stocks could be saying that the low is in for Oil? So many of them are up today….?
It is possible.
Oil has an unconfirmed swing, which means that it hasn’t proven itself yet.
Oil bounced off of the 200sma area, that may be support.
Wednesday is inventory report for Oil, I missed it , but Oil is higher.
OAS is breaking to new highs and several energy stocks do look good.
CLF still going with good volume.
Alex, JONE looks good to me. Lots of volume on weekly chart. OK to buy oils?
Oil has an unconfirmed swing, which means that it hasn’t proven itself yet.
Oil bounced off of the 200sma area, that may be support.
Wednesday is inventory report for Oil, I missed it , but Oil is higher.
OAS is breaking to new highs and several energy stocks do look good. The choice is yours.
The MJ stocks that have been going up like crazy are mainly red today. I think that not all ballot measures passed.
I noticed many down 20-40% , but the charts themselves are not ‘damaged’.- they just shot up soooo much, they drop in similar manner. That was kind of why I gave a slight warning about them a week ago. I actually think that they will become profitable and out perform in the furture.
Todays could be the buy the rumor, sell the news (I know that Massachusettes and California passed it). Those often recover later on, when those companies release specific bullish news. So you can keep them on your radar.
This is all surreal to me. Gold ready to turn negative, Dow up 174. Where am I? Really?
Yeah. Wow.
It’s insane to think that we have had nearly a 1000 point swing in the Dow in the last 12 hours. We were tripping circuit breakers last night…
It also looks like GLD is working on a bearish engulfing candle that spans the last 7 trading days. Not the follow through I was expecting. Miners appear to be holding up though (for the moment at least).
I do think this is still a black Swan event in favor of gold and miners. It just might take a week or two to register. Even if Trump just pulls out of trade agreements that will be enough to get markets reeling.
Ridic. Today was ridic. Pretty much in shock. Thank goodness base miners held gains!!
Hey, see gold going up after hours…maybe it will just steadily rise now rather than have the zoom up shock effect like it seemed it might have post election……I’m good with a steady climb…..as long as it’s a climb! 🙂
It sure is strange. S&P may hit resistance at 2160, at least near term, in which case we could see precious metals start to rally again.
USO (oil) broke major TL to the upside … very encouraging
Alex – would a reversal into the red on GDX or miners today be worry-some in of its own, or is it more critical to focus on whether we specifically breach specific lower levels?
It would normally be specific levels being breached, but I would find it ‘uncomfortable’ if GDX & GDXJ closed green today. Also Gold putting in a new low today would mean that we didnt even see the dcl yet. I thought for sure it was in place after seeing Gold up $50, but making a new low today extends that daily cycle.
Pretty uncharted waters here.
And SPY , QQQ, etx look very bullish after filling gaps this morning and taking off higher. The ICL was in place for those and it looks like they held in place during trading hours.
If GDX / GLD closed Red I am sure that is what you meant…..;)
Yes, I did. Red, not green. I’m going to go change that now : )
Check out energy stocks
CVI, WG
Also AREX, TEX, OAS, AXAS, quite a few more. It does look good
And Bills “Gush”
What do you think of OIL? (The ticker?)
scroll down
I mean the chart of Barclays OIL…? 🙂
Oh, sorry, I didnt see where it said the ticker before.
It ran up, hit the 10sma, and sold off. I see energy stocks looking really good, so Oil itself may be good, but so far, no change on the Oil chart or OIL the ticker.
Okay, here I go with EW again (we’re in trouble now) – today’s GDXJ 5 minute chart looks like an A down, B up, and C down complete with 5 waves. Is the bottom in?
This spike in interest rates seems a little scary, especially since it began with Trump win(negative reaction) and hasn’t let up all day, even though stock market recovered.
Ann can you tell me what you are watching for interest rate quotes??
Just TNX
that’s a scary candle. In 1982/83 when interest rates went to almost 20% (if I understand it right) it was the bond market that took rates there. The fed, for all their meddling lost control of interest rates and debt holders started demanding and getting more. that’s a scary candle
I think so too, if it continues tomorrow things could start spiraling out of hand. Seems like foreigners dumping treasuries on Trump win. Needs to stop hemorrhaging.
I would think that if treasuries continue to sell off overnight it won’t be market positive, but might get gold going again. Maybe I’m wrong but this move just doesn’t feel right.
Alex
what a horrible looking candle in Gold.
Should have taken profits in miners this morning.
But how could one know, right?!
If this American Brexit doesn’t do it, what will?
Looks like we will have to be patient till Spring 2017?
After a big journey over a mountain today, gold futures started at 1276 and guess where they are now? 1276 – same
WTIC: started the day at 44.94 and now it is up a bit at 45.26.
USD is the one that counts – started the day at 98.08 which was in it’s high range and now is up to 98.54
Yes there have been pockets of strength but overall price action in miners has been awful the past couple of sessions
Any thoughts on why CDE is dragging?
A bunch of miners are down now.
SAND? BARF!!!
No fade in NAK this time- Yay!
And AG and NRP.
Alex- any opinion on VITFF? I have it but it rarely joins along with others
Looks like GPL and GSS – large basing action. tough to read anything into the 1 day action today.
We need time
Does that mean they are being accumulated? Someone is buying for them to resist the down move in gold. Hopefully miners are holding here and will move higher to lead gold. Status quo.
Buying into the close would be a good sign ( For Miners).
This is as tough of a read as it gets. I can’t remember this kind of intraday action in ALL of the markets.
Looks like we got some buying at the close
Whew – I was hoping for that.
that’s a mighty battle going on in MUX – three days with + 7% swings
Still watching that GDX weekly comparison coming out of 2008 bottom… w .. o … w .. Déjà vu
https://www.tradingview.com/x/aBOGai8c/
Looks good #HB
fascinating!
Thanks Maria!
One of my favorite books is “Ways of Seeing” by John Berger … the ideas also apply to charts …. anyway this is fascinating to me 🙂 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ce2bba5184faeadc531903145e8bf564627c0f6a797208dcd7ed62e99c6871ea.jpg
Lots of oil stocks held up even when oil had gone down a bit today…….
Yeah, I started posting that Monday. Ken noticed crude oil first then I picked up on the equities.
I dipped in on one today…..just a toe….don’t want to be too early….but…studying tonight to see what else I might want to get…..I have been totally out of energy so would really like to ride the next wave up….
I’m gone for the night – Thanks to all for keeping the main body of this comments section clean and Gif Free today , to make it easy for me to skim. I was in and out all day and it was easy to pick right up where I left off and skim for questions.
You can do as you wish now, I’m going to dinner.
CRAZY DAY! Martini anyone?
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This was NUTS!!
Alex said….”martini, anyone?” So I sent him some drinks….:)
btw …. AG had a great ER … was so distracted and sleep deprived I forgot to post … I am holding and adding on dips http://www.firstmajestic.com/news/index.php?&content_id=310
crazy market! down 4% ah…buy the rumour…sell the news?
AXU reported after hours….as best I can tell I think it was a decent report…..FSM up nicely after hours…..also KCG, AUY up AH
I know the “swing” in oil today didn’t stick/isn’t confirmed – but for future reference…does it have to close over the previous days high or just any time during the day trade above it for it to be considered a swing?
Ok, something is sending gold up this evening…I’ll take it!
USD/JPY is falling, so dollar is falling….
Ok, so Gold didn’t hold the gains today but I had 5 stocks that gained 15% or more today! AG, LABU, CLF, NAK, X.
Check out Copper. Base metal giraffe neck? What??
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I was reading that Trump mentioned building up infrastructure when he’s in office….so I took a look at a few stocks…..many the steel, aluminum, copper….etc….type stocks….basic materials…..went way up today….
None of the baby miners have really done the giraffe neck action (NAK)like the closest) but keep going up a few % so starting to build a little profit on each! 🙂 except for TRX, time to get that 1 engaged!