Same Old Song And Dance – So Far

Fridays jobs report may change a few things, but so far the charts are showing the same old song and dance…

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SPX –  Not much change here (I added a Thursday candle and a Friday candle as a possibility of tagging the 50sma).Jobs report Friday may give us our directional move. Many expect this to burst higher and run, but at this point, the Vix Chart looks rather bullish.

SPX 8-31

 

USD – Day 9, I expect this to roll over as L.T., and the 200sma may offer resistance.  When the Dollar rolls, I think we will see our DCL in GOLD.  Will Friday jobs report send the USD lower into a dcl & Gold higher?

USD 8-31

WTIC – This was in Wednesdays report. I was pointing out the 50sma as possible support and all looks fine.

WTIC 8-30

 

WTIC –   The pullback is fine, but we broke the trend line.  That is usually a sign of price searching for a dcl. We are on day 20, and Oils daily cycles can take 30 + days to find a dcl.  Is this just setting the daily cycle trend line in a 1/2 cycle low? Time will tell, but I’m watching the Fib #’s a target for now.  ( That OIL VOLUME is not correct. Stockcharts corrected it this morning to 540,000).

WTIC 8-31bb

I had drawn this to show a few targets for OIL, so roughly $44 is OK for Oil.

WTIC 8-31

XLE – Still holding up.

XLE 8-31

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We have been watching a good number of strong energy stocks holding up well and breaking out and pulling back  ( back test).  See CWEI, RICE, ECA, WPX,MRO, etc, since they are great looking 6-8 month charts. They have been longer term Buy & Hold candidates for energy too. I want to visit AREX, and show you how it acted Wednesday with OIL breaking below the 50sma and generating lots of bearish talk about OIL on CNBC. This is one that I recommended and bought weeks ago. 

AREX – Buy that dip to the 10sma, and we did get that dip to that area. The buy was near $1.60

AREX DAILY

AREX – We see a  200% run off of the lows.  Notice how it pulls back to the 10sma at times, so I posted this chart in the comments section. My stop is below that area, closer to $2.75 to lock in gains.  It had dropped to near $3.00 ( $3.06).

AREX 8-31

By the end of Wednesday,  AREX regained a lot of that drop and closed back up at $3.32. It looks like a back test. ( I do see this as a possible 1-2-3-4-5 – a, so if I see ‘b’ & ‘c’, I will try not to get stopped out.  Or in T/A terms, If I see a handle of any sort form, I will not be afraid to add, anticipating further upside.  

AREX 8-31 a

AREX WKLY –  You know how good size bases act, if you have been a member here for a while.  So far, this is a Bullish weekly chart, and if it ends here or higher on Friday, it is a nice wkly break out.

AREX 8-31 wkly

 

NATTY –  We got our anticipated break out last week, and Yesterday I pointed out a possible back test and expected NATTY to remain bullish at support.

NATGAS

SO far, So good with a reversal.

NATGAS 8-31

GOLD –  Day 29 has us very close to a daily cycle low  (DCL). I expect a bounce to $1358ish, and one more drop to an ICL ( intermediate Cycle Low).

GOLD 8-31

No peak on the second daily cycle and a break and failure of the dcl?  This is what I have been watching and it calls for a drop to a new ICL by the end of Sept or early Oct.  A bounce and a L.T. D-Cycle should occur with a dcl.

GOLD 8-30b

Wednesday intraday –  in the comments / chat section, I pointed out that a small move by the Miners ( GDX ) eases the parameters for a swing to be put in place here.  Miners could bottom first, so that could be Thursday on Golds day 30 , or Friday on Golds day 31 and the Jobs report.

GDX INTRADAY

GDX – We filled a gap, and if a low comes in soon, as in this week , we may fill the last gap at the ICL and a test of the 200sma. That will be THE NEXT BEST BUYING OPPORTUNITY for a possible year end rally.I’ll cover more in the weekend report.

GDX 8-31

So at this point my thinking is this: I am looking for a possible short term top in the USD, a temporary top. Then at that time I expect a DCL in Miners and a small run higher. The Miners will top in a L.T. Cycle most likely, and the Dollar will bottom into its next daily cycle low. The dollar bounces and eventually we get the drop in Gold and Miners that leads to a ICL.  THE BEST POINT TO BUY if you are patient.  If you are a trader, this scenario can also help you to time your trades.   OIL & ENERGY are still fine, but the selling in Oil was a it more than I expected, and the trend line break is an eye opener.  I will be keeping an eye on those Fib #’s.  You can refer to the chart in this report and keep your eyes on those too.  That trend line break is concerning me a little bit, but I still have to expect that Oil is going higher.

  The general markets have been in a sideways move for almost too long. Summer vacation and the High Frequency trading is just keeping it aloft? On Monday the US markets are closed and I have to wonder if we will FINALLY see the true market direction when summer vacation ends.  The jobs report Friday may also stir a reaction, but will it be a false break out and a sell off in Sept & Oct?  What I will need more time to know for sure.  Happy Thursday everyone!

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~ALEX

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FOR THE DEEP THINKERS AND LEARNERS :

You may want to read this later when you have more time 

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The following is a bit more Cycle oriented and maybe a bit deep, but the conclusion is important in my opinion, so I wanted to share it here. I hope the readers here are able to follow it, you may need to take some time and read it 2 or 3 times if it is a bit difficult to follow at first. 

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TESS had a good comment in our chat section on Wednesday,  Thank You Tess.  I answered to the best of my knowledge, but I decided to go 1 step further and ask THE DOC  ( I consider him more of a cycle expert) to comment on Tess’s point, since she ( I assume Tess is a She) stated that The DOC was where the information came from. I humbly digress, The DOC elaborated his thinking on the matter, and I was not completely correct in what I was thinking for how he would view the Brexit Candle cycle-wise.  I have repeatedly stated here that I use Cycles to guide my trades for timing the trades, but many years of experience give some cycle analysts certain ‘nuances’ that they have come up with , similar to Elliot Wave labeling. The DOC is a cycle expert that I have personally seen investigate and develop  various methods of reading cycles, He uses cycle bands and other features to guide him. I will let him explain ” WHY BREXIT IS NOT VIEWED AS A DCL ” by him below.  🙂

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I posted this chart in yesterdays report- Showing that MAYBE THE BREXIT CANDLE was a dcl?  To me it fit, since I have also developed a few of my own indicators that set the criteria of a daily cycle low for me.  Also, I didn’t see how we could have 1 big bullish 1st daily cycle become the peak in Golds Intermediate Cycle on July 8, and then the 2nd daily cycle had a lower low and just dropped from here.  My methods were saying that maybe we had smaller daily cycles.   I used this chart to show an alternative count to what we were seeing as being on the 2nd daily cycle. Then Tess commented…

GOLD 8-30

TESS & DOC

 

My comment was implying that maybe we wouldn’t consider BREXIT a dcl ON THE DAY THAT IT HAPPENED, We’d need to wait until the highs were taken out for confirmation.  I then asked THE DOC if I was correct or viewing this differently from his thinking. He has been doing cycle work WAY LONGER than I have, so he is the expert in the fine tuning, and his reply was given with a helpful chart ( you gotta love that) …  And permission to use his emailed explanation in this report.  Click to enlarge .

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Docs daily chart below shows his DCL count, with the ICL, and the next DCL in late July. His email reply to me shares that he thinks we have begun the decline into an eventual ICL also.  He uses ‘Timing Bands’, and a close below those T.Bands is his trigger that we are seeking out an ICL. So his analysis does agree with me in that … we should find a DCL soon ( day 30 now) , see only a 1 or 2 week bounce, and then seek out an ICL in the next daily cycles decline. 

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DOCS CHART

DOCS DAILY

 

DOCS EMAIL REPLY ON BREXITS CANDLE: The red writing is mine.

Click to enlarge, but I had trouble reading this on my phone. You may need to use a tablet or laptop.

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THE DOC

SO this helps us to see again that we are in an intermediate decline in the Gold & Silver markets, and we should not expect higher highs going forward, until we seek out in an ICL.  We expect to see a 1 or 2 week bounce soon, and that is just 1 more Daily Cycle that should basically be known as a dead cat bounce in Technical Analysis.  KNOWING THIS IN ADVANCE helps us immensely. We will not buy & hold the next DCL.  We will buy the next sell off at the ICL eagerly.  

 

 

120 replies
  1. miller
    miller says:

    I’m starting to think oil will find a bottom around the 30w MA. Not going to average down on any of my holdings but as Alex has mentioned there are some great stocks on sale at this point.

  2. hamvestor
    hamvestor says:

    Alex, it seems like everyone I follow is expecting an ICL to fill the gap on GDX at around 22.50, and is planning to buy there. That makes me wonder whether it will actually happen…

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Hey Hamvestor! Long time no see- hope all is well.

      I dont read others reports, so I didn’t know that. I am just pointing out what I see and probabilities of future direction, but as time unfolds true price- I am usually really adaptable and watching for change.

      One thing that I will add is that in bear markets, back tests of the 50sma fail, break outs fail, gap fills over do it and keep dropping, etc
      In Bull Markets, I see more of the technical analysys playing out very closely to expectations, so we’ll see. At times, powerful gaps can also act as support ( They dont fill, price just returns to the top of he gap & reverses higher again), so there are many things to watch for. We’ll stay Frosty – thanks 🙂

      • hamvestor
        hamvestor says:

        Alex, thanks for a very useful perspective! At the rate we are going, that gap may fill by today or tomorrow, lol.

  3. Crystal
    Crystal says:

    Alex, I admire your ability to be flexible in your thinking and not be biased. Since you brought up Tess and the DOC as an alternate way of thinking , (I hope I am not breaking any rules here as this is another perspective, not trading advice)

    I think I have mentioned Peter Brandt before and how he is also considered an “old time expert” – well, he thinks this post radically changed his way of thinking about gold : http://www.crossingwallstreet.com/archives/2014/07/the-gold-model-revisited.html

    And the idea is this; gold is an anti-currency and one cannot anticipate or model price without taking the USD Into account.

    That’s why I really appreciate today’s post – you consistently remember to look at where the dollar is – and although some might not make the connection – and choose to focus on the gold count – the USD chart is always there.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Hi Crystal-

      Well, it is important not to become Biased. I simply try to follow price action. Being Biased in various thinking about the markets can / will affect your trading. That is why I dont read too much of the reports out there, theories on “why this has to be like this” and such, because it changes an unbiased look into a biased one. People become afraid to trade when they read this and that often. Then they jump in after the move took place, and it is too late, they get caught in a price dip. Buy when others are afraid. Sell when they think its so great : )

      Follow the charts / cycles / sentiment as a contrarian, and a few other tricks….and we do well. There will always be surprises, but the good calls from observations & Timing should out weigh the temporary surprises.

  4. R Byram
    R Byram says:

    Thanks Alex – this study of cycles is fascinating. I am gradually getting my head around it – well at least I am figuring out some of the acronyms :). Your work helps take some of the fear out of the equation. It seems that the other great skill to learn in cycle analysis is when to go chopping wood.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Exactly- When we are falling into a dcl ( or maybe we are on day 22, and we’ve lightened up on our positions, but we still hold core positions or a trade or two) – Go out and chop wood, ride your bike, walk the beach, shovel snow, etc , and dont stare at the red selling. – lol

      We know that using Cycles, these drops are ALWAYS going to dip down a little or maybe a little more than we thought they would. I try to lighten up before then, but I’m never completely out of the game, so as an unavoidable result….the dips will lower the account totals temporarily. Why watch that action , when there are things to do : )

      Actually- I had to split & stack that wood that day, the dump truck came early and dumped the load right in the middle of my driveway – haha

  5. Tammie
    Tammie says:

    Hey Alex – you said roughly $44 is ok for oil…I show it’s getting really close to that…what do you think if it falls below? Can it still fall to the 61.8% retrace and be ok?

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      It can, but I really expected it to be stronger coming out of the second ICL ( The higher lows). What I am also doing is keeping an eye on the XLE, XOP and see if the energy stocks are still holding up ok as Oil sells down.

      RICE, ECA, ERF, REI, MRO, etc were some of the ones that held up when OIL sold off, so I watch a number of them and compare to what I see in oil too.

  6. Tammie
    Tammie says:

    CLNE had good news this morning which made it pop up…the only green I have in my account….sold it because it started to fall and I wanted to at least make a little something today….now it’s turned and going up again…..but wait…now it’s going down again….ha! I should go walk in the woods or something as Alex suggested…..

    • R Byram
      R Byram says:

      I’m just trying to make sure that my stops are out of the way of this move. I’m leaving them all in place in case there is some monster event, but I don’t want anymore to get hit on this move – just because we have confidence that it will change character soon

      • chartfreak1
        chartfreak1 says:

        Yes, a good plan is key…a plan like ” I’ll buy on the reversal here if…” and also the opposite , like ” if this happens, I’ll have to stop out, because it isnt acting the way it should if it is to remain short term bullish”.

        Something like that.

  7. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    MAN O MAN

    One of my favorite Silver stocks AG is selling off on what should be HUGE volume today. Maybe a capitulation low, but it has lost a large % of the gains in 2016.

    Is it a buying opportunity or a stay out of the way? I cant find any news on it.

    If it reverses to green today, I may buy that as a trade / capitulation low.

  8. Tammie
    Tammie says:

    AREX up .10….I’m tempted to jump back in because I sold mine before it fell….but…*wrings hands in despair* I’m afraid to get anything I don’t already have before tomorrow….

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Thx Tess – for the Brexit candle question. DOC was thorough and quite familiar with cycle movements, and I respect him.

      And so I might still have my own rule to a day like Brexit. If I label Gold the way I pointed out in my chart, then Gold peaked on the 2nd daily cycle, and we’ll have 4 short daily cycles in this intermediate cycle. That makes sense.

      If I go by the idea that the whole intermediate cycle peaked on the first long daily cycle…and that this is only the 2nd daily cycle and it didn’t make a new high, that seems VERY bearish for Gold. I dont think Gold is bearish in the longer term, so I need to review all that I have seen and see if I still want to call Brexit the low of one daily, and the start of a new one.

      For me, It seems like it could be an exception to the rule. It is good for me to know Docs thinking on that matter though, so when this entire intermediate cycle has reached the next ICL, I can go back and look in hindsight and see how I want to label a day like Brexit. Thx again

    • SonOfGud
      SonOfGud says:

      steady on there Tammie!.. 🙂
      everytime £ rises against the $, i gotta go buy a fistful of FXB .. otherwise my account dives (a complication of my trading the US market from the UK)

  9. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    I think that we are getting the lows put in place with the cycle timing being this late and the pop in Miners across the board.

    The safer trade is waiting for a DCL confirmation , but the 10sma is still higher and by the time GDX gets above it , it could be a while. For active traders to be taking SMALL or controlled positions here may not be too risky.

    SO I personally have been buying this morning. The downside seems rather limited timing wise, and US markets are closed Monday

  10. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    BAA ,TGD, AUMN, HMY, THM, even GPL look pretty good today, with pretty good volume coming in.. I am using an 8sma instead of a 10, because of the steeper drop. The 10sma hangs higher up

    • nancytheartist
      nancytheartist says:

      Kerrisdale , a shorting firm, had a negative write up on Seeking Alpha. Say co. WAY overvalued.They are shorting.

      • R Byram
        R Byram says:

        I wonder what they know, or think they know that the market doesn’t. I just had a real quick look at the 10Q and the ratings on IBD and they are in fantastic shape with no debt – unless they have piled on something in the past 60 days. The short interest is only at 1.5 days. If Kerrisdale is piling on a lot of shorts – shares have to be sold to accomplish this – then it could account for the drop in price. Could be a future squeeze candidate???

        • nancytheartist
          nancytheartist says:

          It was a pretty long article pointing out how over valued it is…but the predatory shorters can really hurt and not always truthfully fact-based. Like you, my other data sources are favorable. This one of my small core holdings so I am holding.
          ps…while poking around there, was a good write up on TGD…but one scary fact about there future property to be developed in Mexico…it is located in one of most dangerous areas in Mexico!

  11. miller
    miller says:

    Missed the miners move this AM due to work but it appears oil has bounced off the highs of prior DCL so hoping this may be a bottom. $43.39 needs to hold,

  12. miller
    miller says:

    Stock Market not looking so good, looks like it wants to roll over here. If that’s the cadr Alex, would you expect it to drag all the energy stocks with it?

  13. R Byram
    R Byram says:

    The Permian Basin oils are staying strong – REN, AREX, SRAQU, REI, RICE. SRAQU just touched a new high.

    TET.TO in Canada has big volume coming in

  14. Ken
    Ken says:

    I am considering taking 75% of my Call profits off the table on the GDX daily swing buy this morning….I am hesitating holding because of tommorows Job Report and seeing a possible gap down ……. unless someone here knows those numbers. 😉
    Still will hold core holdings…..

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      It is a bit tricky pre jobs report , could there be 1 big final slam down? ( Also If you’re in the U.S., Markets are closed Monday, so you’re locked in until Tuesday).

      Another scenario could be the long candle higher today, and a quick slam down at Jobs report doesnt take out the lows. I will add on that.

      The timing is right for a DCL, very close if not today, so I am staying with what I have – If it drops on the jobs report, I’m used to pain, I have a reader here, her name is Mari….never mind.

  15. miller
    miller says:

    I suspect we at least get a bounce in oil from here,, went long UWTI at $19.11. , tight stops or may sell before the close.

      • miller
        miller says:

        I like the stick save on the 60 min and 4hr charts for oil, also how it rallied back to above $43.39,,may have been just short covering and tomorrow will tell if we get a bounce or more sideways till another drop. I think we get the upside surprise when OPEC agrees to freeze output. Hitting all the stops and shaking out all the weak hands now,

        • Ken
          Ken says:

          I would be cool with that ! 🙂
          Although I think I will wait for a swing buy signal.
          Worth a shot imo Mr Miller…..I am holding some XLE from yesterday, straight up, maybe a long term hold…..

          • miller
            miller says:

            Im hoping the swing comes tomorrow Ken, UWTI has been gapping down on the open last 3 days so im pulling for a change here, not to heavy in but any loss in a 3X hurts quick, Larger volume today than the low in early August. Smart move on the long term calls, they will surely pay off by end of year,

  16. miller
    miller says:

    Alex, or Ken, or anyone else in GDX, Any sell targets in mind? Ive dropped my target to the $28.50 range but curious about ya’lls thoughts and if it will even clear resistance in the $26.70-$27.70 range now? Sitting on calls ( or should I say drowning in them ,lol) Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.

  17. Crystal
    Crystal says:

    Is anyone in PGH? I am losing money here – and just about every where else – but it looks like there is more downside. I hate to take a significant loss and then have it bounce, but don’t want to lose any more – would be nice to buy groceries!

    • R Byram
      R Byram says:

      I got out of PGF.TO – the Canadian version a few days ago @ 1.95 which was 6% higher than it is now, but I took a loss on it at the time. So far I am happy with my picks that I still hold. Today 8 out of the 10 oil stocks I am in traded in the green, and 7 of them are in positive territory on my account. That could obviously change, but for now in a down market I am happy with my picks.

    • deshy
      deshy says:

      I’m still holding on but if no change by tomorrow then I’m out! All ready stayed beyond my welcome and as usual I’m paying for it. 🙁

    • miller
      miller says:

      I ad asked Alex about this one the other day as well Crystal, as im in the same boat as you. Here was his response,:

      “What I am doing is ….Pull up a 2 yr weekly chart of PGH, look at just the 30 ma. That is support for now. It is pinched between the 10 & 30 and that can be a good thing. When they pop higher ( if) they usually run well.
      Unfortunately, because it is a weekly chart, it can drop below and recover by next friday and still be ok, but I think it is going to hold up. If you get stopped out, just remember that a pop above the 30 & 10 ma later would be good, and get back in. I dont let a shake out keep me out if the set up is still valid.

      I like the weekly chart.”
      It just closed below the 30w ma today, ,just barely,by one point I believe.

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        • Crystal
          Crystal says:

          Thank you very much! been busy and not always able to read the chat log.. I really hope this will pull through, after my TGD losses I can’t afford this one too!

          • miller
            miller says:

            No worries, im gonna hold on to see if we get a bounce in oil tomorrow or it breaks below the lowest candle just to the left, its only a nickel away and Id hate to sell right before a low was put in there.

          • miller
            miller says:

            Yeah, just a little cushion, bit depending on the candles and volume on the intraday. The other issue being it would be the third down red candle day and that can often bring at least a bounce unless oil is just in a free fall but I feel oil will be up in the morning so we should get a bounce out of the gate,

          • chartfreak1
            chartfreak1 says:

            I actually have to wait on a weekly chart for Friday, or I bail out and get back in if it pulls a reversal.

            SO when I use a weekly chart, I dont get a final candle reading until Fridays close.

            SO– will PGH recover the 30WMA by the close tomorrow? I’m still in it for now.by the way

          • miller
            miller says:

            Makes more sense, Thanks Alex. I feel we are much closer to a bottom than top in oil here so I’m reluctant to sell anything. Could be wrong but If it breaks down worse from here I’ll reevaluate then. Thanks for all you do here,

    • Tammie
      Tammie says:

      I’m still in too…..at a loss….along with my other losses…sounds like we’re in the same boat…..I have to study it out tonight and see what I’m going to do…..haven’t been able to look at it the past few hours and see what oil looks like, etc…..not that I’ll be able to figure it out …:P

    • SonOfGud
      SonOfGud says:

      yes me too.. also with you in TGD…
      sucks to be us!
      PGH on the 30min chart has broken out of its past 3 week coil, which should mean it stops dropping for the moment.
      buttttt………….. its below all those moving averages so it might only go as high as the brown ema before falling back again.
      assuming it fails to get back above the MAs, then a drop below the rising green trendline on that histogram coil and im out

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