AUG 12 – Navigating Choppy Waters
I wanted to share a thought on Gold, Miners, and Oil
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WTIC – Oil remained bullish with the bullish follow through on Day 6. There may be resistance at the 50sma, but so far this looks good.
Now on to GOLD and Miners. I have a cautionary note, but I dont want to cause a PANIC. For those Heavily positioned ( And I am) and any using leverage, it is definitely time to pay attention to what I will call the possibility of more CHOPPINESS rather than the original thought of a nice thrust higher into $1400+.
CAN WE still get a push higher into $1400+? Yes, but what I am seeing in this choppiness needs to be addressed here, again, especially for any using leverage or very heavily positioned. Let me explain by starting with a recent chart that I posted.
GDX AUG 5th – I noted choppiness and divergence. A push higher out of this was possible, but a continual struggle could signal something else and I drew a sideways choppiness – not great for leverage. SO far I would say we are seeing that play out. It can go choppy / sideways, and then burst higher still.
GDX 1 week later – It still shows CHOPPY
I had originally said that I thought GOLD and MINERS had put in 2 short daily cycles, and I said that Gold possibly did or didn’t, but I was sticking to the idea that Miners did, based on this chart – also last week AUG 5th. We would be in a 3rd daily cycle looking for a Peak.
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When a 3rd daily cycle tops and begins to drop into the next DCL ( Daily Cycle Low) that is usually the peak of the intermediate cycle. Then you can get a 4th daily cycle that doesn’t go to new highs and drops into an ICL. ARE WE THERE? I cannot say for sure, but leverage here would hurt if we do start to chop & drop. Let me draw what that can look like that for you.
GOLD 8-11 This looks like it wants to break the trend line up and drop. Will it? I cannot say for sure, but each time Gold POPS, it gives it up lately. We need a POP and run higher soon, or this could roll over. ( Just a cautionary note for leveraged ones). The last 2 days Gold has Popped to $1360, and gave it up. Will we do that today?
HUI – So far it is a bullish uptrend. Picture this current choppiness and possible drop as being similar to the choppiness and drop that we saw at the end of April & may. I have this numbered as though 1-2-3-4-5 is ending. You could also picture my ‘5’ as ‘3’, and we could get that thrust higher to the real ‘5’. Time will tell.
My current chart of GDX with certain indicators that I have come up with to help me see strength or weakness, are still showing weakness. THIS CAN be done away with with a good burst higher, but the longer we go in this daily cycle without a burst higher that holds, we run out of time. The last 2 days burst higher and sold off. On day 14 (today) it is best to throw up a caution flag.
I will say this: I am not selling out of all of my positions, I will likely be lightening up in heavy winning trades however, if we cant get a POP that holds into the close . INDIVIDUAL MINERS can continue to out perform even when we see Gold dip. I held onto some positions when we went into the ICL in May. That turned out to be a buying opportunity, but the Miners that I held did not get CRUSHED. They dipped.
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NOTE: Please don’t Panic. I AM NOT GUARANTEEING A DROP NOW, I am cautioning on Leverage and heavy positions, just in case this weakness persists.GOLD keeps Popping higher, and giving it up into the end of the day. That will cause me to lighten up a bit if it continues. I will cover more in the weekend report.
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Conclusion: I expected GOLD to surge into the $1440’s, even High 1440’s and I still do in time. I expected a higher push sooner than later, but I also have expected a dip to an ICL in SEPT/OCT and have mentioned that. I have to let the markets tell me when they will be timing these events. If we continue sideways and start dropping soon for 20 days stairway down, and then bounce in a final daily cycle for another 20+ days, we will get the ICL in Sept / Oct. If we POP & Run higher for days, then we can cash out a bit higher before the next dip into an ICL. We have a little time to see how this develops.
At the same time, we have been looking at ENERGY / OIL STOCKS and Oil bottoming. Remember, OIL might be on DAY 7 following an ICL ( if we don’t get that undercut low). It may soon be a good time to go shopping in a different store where the sale prices currently are. This storehouse of Precious Metals stocks may go on sale soon too, in Sept and Oct, and we will come back for the bargains.
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~ALEX
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NOTE: pre-market right now GOLD just Burst higher by $15. It looks great, but I still look at the chart. That puts Gold at $1553. SO look on this chart of Gold yesterday and look at $1553. That is NOT higher than Wednesdays high of $1363.60. I want to see a POP and a run, or at least a POP and hold into the close, because “Time” is of the essence.













FYI: BTG launched 100M stock offering @market price
2 days ago I sold most and just kept a core position….so glad! Finally I got it right….I have 6 holdings that did “offerings”. Looks like GPL is coming out of its punishment stage finally.
Offering ‘at the market’ doesn’t usually hurt a stock.
Its not the same as a stock being $6.00 and they do an Offering at $5.60
So you see BTG up today
Good to know. Still glad I took profits and tucked the rest into core.
NAK up 20% in pre-market
huge gap up…….. will it keep on truckin?
I have NAK earnings release on 8-12, but can’t find a report? Might come out after market close
I can’t find anything, no news on NAK.
Insiders buying before earnings?
TGD 1 million volume in the first 5 minutes. NAK Almost 2 million
Do we have a giraffe necks coming? : )
Dear Alex,
Have a nice day
Is it right time to get in PLM?
This could be a combo day! Eye twitching AND Depends!
Crystal, good job staying in TGD!
I saw the other day you wanted to bail before the ER.. I hope you didn’t!
I did, bought MUX. Up 4% instead of 15%.
did you buy URRE?…
looks like it may be cup & handling on the 1 min chart.. possible entry… i dunno, dont take my word for it
I did — a very small amount – it’s kind of like the real thing – a little bit has the potential to make a big effect when it goes nuclear!
yeah.. me too!
that & TPLM … those mother-fuggers make me nervous as hell… like one tick can make huge % jumps
Keep in mind it is weak financially if I am remembering correctly from research back a few months ago.
.. and we all know how that can end 🙁
I had a roller coaster ride on that one and got out with $20 profit. Not worth the angst for me!
lol.. doncha just hate when that happens..
i tend to do that more than i may care to admit.
grand old duke of york style.. march them up to the top of the hill, and then….
Like my ORIG….
I went through my old July reports, I had a chart for TGD bullishness in every single day for weeks : )
Such as this one ( refresh)
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This set up was solid, and dont forget the 3 yr weekly
Alex, I’m seeing this AB=CD pattern playing out for a 2nd time in the US Dollar. If so, it should continue to drop to the lower trend line. Thoughts? Refresh daily chart
Yes, I can see that
Another Friday report from overachiever Alex!
And I love it – it felt like you wrote this report just for me as I’m looking to reduce leverage in my all-miner portfolio. My line in the sand was XAU dropping below 109, but I like your plan much better.
Now we let the market tell us what to do in the last hour of the day
Thanks for gettin’ (Chart) Freaky on Friday , Alex!
I 2nd that Alex. As you know I tend to trade leverage. 50% on NUGT, good trade, why push it.
I thought of you Bill, I knew from the comments that you were in NUGT. It was a great trade, and Maybe you could just sell some or trail a stop, but I know others are leveraged too, because we expect $1400+, so I just wanted to throw a little caution in with the choppiness.
Gold can still run from here ( $1350) to $1440 in 3 days if it wants. Time wise that works too, but I wanted to throw out the caution flag, because it loos like it is breaking that lower trend line with each bounce too.
yes.. thx for reminder/warning.. i shaved some off myself in pre .. ill take 179 everyday 😉
I sold my 2nd trade on NUGT from earlier in the week. Didn’t make much now that gold broke down today, but I didn’t hold on until it was a loser! Which is a win! 🙂
You’re welcome Cal
I was just looking at several charts and thought to myself, I dont want to panic everyone, but this chop is continuing, and I might start to lighten up if we can get a burst and close higher.
I was thinking of putting it in the weekend report, but watching Fridays close is better.
Natural Gas Daily Swing Buy this morning. Added UNG Calls…….Stop below yesterdays low.
Are you thinking wave 5 with 4 being the undercut scenario that we saw recently? It could be.
A Chart is worth a thousand words…… 😉
Nice chart as always Ken. 🙂 Just one thought though….doesn’t a ‘C’ wave normally have 5 waves. If so that would suggest your C of 4 needs one more dip to potentially slightly below yesterday’s low before it’s complete and a wave 5 rally begins. But only a thought!
Not always in a wave 4…….
Thnaks. 🙂 Have a great weekend. 🙂
Maria where are u? … HPJ!
thinking of your chart analog 🙂
and urre… craycray
just said to Crystal down the thread.. cup & handle on 1 min timeframe?
not playn it now…sog
I do like the volume in both GDX and GLD right now 1/2 hr into the day. It is strong, so now I’ll be looking for Price to HOLD OR EXTEND into the close for more of a bullish sign.
Day 14 for GDX and it did make another new high.
This choppiness is tough, but longer term the trend is up
AUMN breaking down? Anyone still own it? Buy/Sell/Hold?
I sold AUMN. Something wrong with it. A lot of red days in a row.
Sold. Only down a few cents each day but look how far it is from highs? I’ve mentioned all week miners that hot new highs everyday so far and AUMN is off 20%? No thanks for right now.
agreed
PGLC had earnings today…does anyone have an opinion on how they did?
Looking for good financially sound energy stocks…..anyone have some ideas? Have been researching quite a bit and seems like most every one I look at isn’t sound at all….maybe I need to look at higher priced stocks instead of the $2-5 range…..
I’m staring at ATW.
Thanks – haven’t looked at that one in a while, I’ll have to check it out 🙂
nice looking financials
Ken likes PACDs financials
I do like PACD and I own it but maybe XLE might be your best way to go Tammie, reduces your risk but you will not see 100% or 200% returns either. imho.
You will see big gains in UWTI!
I dont think she wants leverage Bill.
good point, or UCO for the long term
I do too. I’d scoop up more shares if I had the $$$
Wow, it really dropped today – they had a downgrade by Deutsche Bank to “hold” so I guess that sent it tumbling…..good time to get in if we’re not in I guess? I traded it a while back but haven’t been in it a while….did it do a split a while back or something? Seems I remember something….
See here is what I don’t like about PACD. I’ve had it before and its very boring. Sideways for a while, up then down. Having said that, it does look like it wants to bust out higher soon.
Do you trade Canadian stocks or just in the US?
cdn if you have any thoughts. Thx.
Energy Sector is large, Drillers, Refiners, Utility, Transfer, etc. Most of the drillers are profitable (ORIG, RIG, NE, ATW, SDLP HP). Others to look at that have positive net income are EVEP, CVE, XLU, XEL, SRE, XOM, WG, PACD.
ORIG down 53% due to backruptcy…
ORIG down 55% on Bankruptcy warning on conference call….. 😀 hmmmmm
ORIG has positive net income, + EPS, and increasing revenue. Hmmmmmm. They must be heavily in debt or something. FYI. All the tickers I put up I haven’t checked in a while so do your own DD!
they have 850 in cash. apparently defaulted on 150… which they can easily pay. Either incredible opportunity or a trap.. trying to dig thru information now
Just looked at their report. You are right about the revenue, earnings etc but they have 4.3 Billion in debt, and the release has an abbreviated balance sheet that is impossible to understand but they do have 747 million in cash. Could they be playing a game of chicken with their creditors and suppliers?
I don’t get it?? Wouldn’t that debt have to be reflected in the net income?
only interest payments on the debt are applied against income. debt sits on the balance sheet
I’m seeing more in Assets than Liabilities?
http://financials.morningstar.com/balance-sheet/bs.html?t=ORIG®ion=usa&culture=en-US
taking a flyer
I couldn’t resist dipping my toe in
Lets get it. They aren’t filing today. Backlogs look full for at least a year.
Only thing that bothers me is that it is a Subsidiary of DRYS & same CEO
ORIG has crooked people in charge
ORIG was spun off DRYS…at the time it seemed to be the most valuable part. Many were highly suspicious of what the Greek [?] rich head guy was up to…shenanigans were suspected. Maybe he is up to more. For awhile ORIG did well and DRYS died. I lost a bundle. I am highly suspicious.
And be sure that their earnings have been released before you buy. That surprise reaction is always a bummer.
LGCY
Alex, do you see any energy stocks that look ready to bust out higher?
Here are 2 very strong stocks, they already broke out, and 1 is doig a back test right now, the other may do one soon.
I expect higher price in these 2.
RICE & CPE
WPX & ECA also are strong
Do your own due diligence, but these charts are nice
If you asked me yesterday, I would have said GBR Bull flag (AGAIN)
I did ask you Yesterday. You weren’t around much…:-(
He’s on the lake in a blowup raft drinkin one if those drinks with fruit &an umbrella…
Right, remember Yesterday we were thinking he was on vacation?
That’s better than coolin’ off in the back of the pick-up truck ….
i actually thought i saw him doing that as well …
LOL i didnt see your image at first… ha ha
Yours is the airbrushed version 🙂
should have drawn in a stogie… 2funny
I’ve noticed that this is true for most Thursday’s,..
I’m in:
ECA –
BTE – lots of debt but contained – one of the highest leverage plays if oil is over $50.
PXT.to Columbian producer – popped yesterday, pulled back in today
RRX they will break free of all overhead soon – could be a CDE in the making – run run run
TET.TO debt, but solid owners, and a great asset
PPY.TO
I’m hoping to hold and build on these and play some more explosive stocks as Alex comes up with them
RICE looks to be retesting, thanks
arex finally broke out.. 😉
understatement of the year! #HB
ECA looks good, +net income, + earnings behind us and a pullback. Im buying here
Yeah, I like ECA…have had some for a couple of weeks – they did a 6 Billion mixed offering back on July 25 (that’s when I see the headline on it) but I haven’t been able to find anything much out about it – other than just the headline – it caused it to pull back some at the time – so I’ve been wondering if that’s it for the pullback and it won’t come back to bite later – seems so for now at least!
Dear Alex,
What is your take on GV, PLM, GSV (down today)? I don’t have any position… looking for starter position.
Looks like you have your answer, Alex – PM & miners giving up early gains already. I may not wait until the last hour to pull the trigger
I’m starting to sell right now. This is horribly, horribly disappointing. Not going crazy, but so definitely lightening up here. A lot. Gold just absolutely cannot hold gains right now.
Guys, looks like GOLD is trading in a wedge, bouncing between the upper and lower trend line. I suspect we break higher, not lower. Having said that, I did sell my leveraged positions. Holding MUX, CDE, AU, TAHO
Thanks for that, Bill.
Funny, I was just pondering the wedge scenario – plus the fact that big money usually makes their trades in the last hour, especially on Fridays. Kinda makes this mid-day drop suspect. Couple more hours will tell the tale
NUGT has been running 15 to 24 day cycles or 1/2 cycles from low to high lately. We are on day 20 currently. Should turn higher.
in long positions at the DC top…
Another argument for being in a wedge is that I began paying close attention to daily & intermediate cycle counts – tempting me to think “I’ve got this figured out.” Mr. Market, of course, always humbles the person who thinks that – I hear that cycle counts go out the window in wedges.
Cal, the chart above is for GOLD and is a wedge. The cycles is from my NUGT chart, no wedge.
That’s a good find, Bill. When it decides to sell off gold has been going absolutely straight down, that’s the part that’s bothering me. Mostly intuition as well as timing for me right now. I’m not bearish, just not ultra bullish anymore. GDX is in heavy resistance and seems unable to break through during the current cycle.
I agree with most, leveraged positions could be tough here, but no reason to sell all.
The ones really bothering me are the VGZ and other tiny miners. They couldn’t pull back up with gold up. We retest the 50-day (on gold) and they could get smoked.
See attached chart. Refresh
Alex are you lighting up here on gold and silver miners?
Why are my energy plays sacking wind with oil up so much???? No me gusta!
What are you holding?
could it be that it’s Friday in the middle of summer and all the buyers are doing something besides sitting in front of their computers?
what a bunch of weirdos they are
Exactly. I’m trying to make a buck here, folks!
USO calls (sold 1/2). WPX, OAS, WLL, ERF. on the less successful side – LPI and LGCY. Dow on both a little bit but above stop and with oil trending up have given a little room.
I got WPX right at the lows, that one has been rewarding, it does well with oil down so a good pick when either early or with added volatility.
Just sold my LGCY as I don’t like the chart going into the weekend. Maybe I’ll reenter later in the week. For those keeping score, I netted a cool $3.00 on this trade. Luckily, I have a kid, so I’ll be able to at least get some Ikea meatballs out of it (the adult portion is $5.99!!–too much for my trading today). On another note, I’m going to hold on to OAS (for now, assuming it can stay above the 50sma into close). It’s up better, had a successful backtest of the 200 a couple days ago, and now holding above the 50. Also above the 50 and the 20 on the weekly chart. Edit: *bort!*
Energy stocks should be good for a couple weeks. Bort!
As well I thought. My LGCY is KILLING ME right now. WPX, CWEI, and OAS have been the strongestime that I have seen. Add LPI to the disappointment list.
i love that CWEI….serious beast.
Oh, still so mad. When I realized oil failed that last cycle like a month ago, I felt I had to say goodbye out of CWEI for capital preservation. I sold at $30.50 🙁 🙁 🙁
Alex,
it maybe time to reduce gold holdings, as you suggested. Are u keeping PLGTF?
I’m tempted to because it would more than make up for the idiotic think I did with ORIG, but it looks strong still
Though you had a bad trade with ORIG, I just want to say that I have appreciated a lot of the fundamental info and other additional input that you have contributed to this board : )
That goes for many here too, but I thought I’d try to take the sting out of the ORIG trade, and I do mean it.
Thanks Alex!
I kept it. The chart looks constructive, see attached of the Canadian listing where there’s more volume
I’m not cutting that one anyway, that is going to be a core position for me. ( Sorry so late, I was away)
what is the verdict on TGD after this fugly daily candle?
Idk. I had a crazy dream about TGD doing really well last night, woke up all about the Timmons then I saw a great earnings report. Then…then…ahhh…more disappointment.
I have a bit of cushion, I’m giving TGD until next week, but only bc I got in a bit lower, that might not suit all.
am about 10% up ..
may take my money & run
Did you close?
i lightened up on half … kept a foot in each camp
Flush out of weak hands?
maybe.. but last time a candle like this (April)… 50% drop followed
I don’t think that TGD has done a financing yet.
TGD has been climbing uphil this way for the past month.
Use just a 20dma, and look at all of the spikes higher. I dont know if it’s a trader profit taking pops or what, but the 20sma is holding every pop & drop so far
That is how I am looking at it.
If we drop into a DCL sooner than later, I dont know if the 20 would hold, maybe the 50sma as a back test of the break out
I sold 1 of my strongest, SAND just to lock in a win and raise cash for new opportunities. SAND had a huge run this DC. Sold VGZ and GPS from the loser camp bc I can’t afford higher losses on those if gold doesn’t hold up next week. The little guys have mostly (with a few obvious exceptions) looked weak so no need for the risk there. Tightening stop on TGD, likely selling some BTG to lock profits and move down to ‘core’ size postion. Also pared back AGQ, silver won’t be able to break out right now, just isn’t happening.
Still holding all energy but LGCY looks poor, OAS charts looks sweet. Have a good weekend.
I had drawn the same conclusions about LGCY and OAS. bort!
Steel/base metals? I just ran through some charts of X, CLF, AKS. Really getting oversold, a few cents down Monday and XBOX gets to the 50-day. Put on watch list for possible buy.
Good point – the miners seem to go first, then gold then oil?? Haven’t quite figured it out but these look interesting. Could you comment on this for Monday Alex?
bye all.. have a GREAT weekend!! :o) woop
#IloveOil
You wearing that in August? 😉
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I went away for the end of the day and I come back to see the Giraffe in TGD.
HMMM, Ostrich
I am still holding full position on TGD
Sold 2/3rds of mine today,, was carrying 10000 shares since .25 and felt as you did, gold was acting weird. (if not for that I think TGD would have seen $.90 – $1.00 ) Gonna let the rest ride. Have to give you big thanks on that trade, got the stock on here, waited and watched patiently, all the while reading your take on the PM markets each day, got great entry and a took a great profit. Wouldn’t have found that trade if not for Chartfreak. Thanks again and hope all turns out well with the family. Have a great weekend and Family always comes first and they should always be priority.
Wow! Nice trade man!!
I apologize that I do not have time to go through ALL of the comments. We have had a family health issue over the past 2 weeks, and at the same time they were scheduled to move ( Sold the house) so there has been a lot of running around, helping with packing, visit at the hospital, etc etc
Weekend report likely Sunday night, Monday morning. OT MUCH changed from this report, and it is still a tad uncertain if Gold will POP & run or give it up.
I need to look at it a bit more, Good weekend all!!
Sorry to hear you and your family are going through two major life events – hoping that everything ends well despite all the stress.
While we do miss your presence on the comments, don’t feel guilty! Actually you should commend your self that all your faithful “students” were here today – Bill, Maria, Nancy, Cason, SOG, Ken, Tammie, ,
Siva, Chris, Byram, Cal, Daz…and a few newer voices (Mark
I fully approve of the above comment. 🙂
For the record I did light up a touch over the last few days, not much mind as there’s a lot of green on my screen thanks to Alex :)). Willing to give a some back rather than get knocked out of my positions. See how things pan out over next week, I dumped the rest of my CLF (got out around 7.50) the other day and booked a very nice gain. WIll look to re-enter if our market overloads allow me!
NAK and SSRI and Dumping CLF earned/saved a few quid!
I know your a busy man, I’d be super grateful of a CLF outlook if you can squeeze it in at some point.
Thenks everyone, Have a great weekend ( and fingers and toes crossed for a big open in asia!!!1!?)
Thanks for including me…this is a nice group! Have a good weekend all!
You work too much, man. Take care of the family; they need you and that is what is important. Your trading family appreciates all of your comments but we’re big boys and girls and will get it all figured out! (eventually, that is!)
🙂 nice case…
Yes to what Cason said – do what you need to do and take care of family! We’ll be here studying (or trading or goofing off) whenever you are away 🙂 🙂 Hope you have a good weekend and can find a moment to relax 🙂
Hope all goes well with the health issue your family is facing and with the move preps. Try to enjoy the weekend too!
Have a good weekend everyone. Alex you too.
Well, this was me all week. But starting Monday, back to the grind! And no CF during the day. Ugh!!
Howdy Cason. Do you have a daytime job like I do? I see you on here so much I thought you did this for your job. I work too and that’s why I am never in discussions. I do however enjoy reading everyone’s post (and pictures). I hope you have a good week and great trades.
Hey Johnny! Yep, I have to work for a living. If I traded to support myself my family would be starving and live in a van down by the river!! I had a lot time off built up at work and took the last 2 weeks off. That’s the only reason I was on so much. Back to the grind tomorrow so most of my comments will be later on at night. But it was fun while it lasted! I just have so much to say sometimes! 😛
Bill and Maria sure like to CF from work, they’ll give us all plenty to read!
You know its pretty funny to come in after work and see some of the funny comments. It keeps the trading light hearted. Speaking of that…I have yet to lighten up on my miners. I googled energy companies that could go bankrupt and the list had practically every energy company I am familiar with. So rather than jump in energy, I am weighing my options elsewhere.⏳
Yes, it’s hard to find solid companies….I’ve been searching as well…..but sometimes when I stay out of one because I don’t like the financials….it will do the giraffe neck….and then I’m like….agghhhhhhhh! 🙂 hahaha
I know. They have been hammered for so long, some are overdue to fail. Very tricky, indeed.
Having been here for awhile so here is what I think that CF would say – “it’s in the charts” – if they are going bankrupt or missing payments or earnings miss, you’ll see. Run BAS:$WTIC in stockcharts – that’s what pending bankrupcy looks like. Sure, some major fundamentals trump it – gov’t jobs data and Fed action action and weekly oil inventories. If we have trending oil and the chart looks good, you are usually safe enough for a few weeks. Have a stop, get a basket, use small positions in the juniors. They are just some of the ideas to participate without setting yourself up for a FAIL if something unexpected does happen. Or just play the ETFs so you aren;’t monitoring the financials of 8 juniors (which I certainly don’t have time to do). Ok – so this is me summing up CFs advice over the years, so he gets credit for these thoughts, not me. GL this week!