June 25 Weekend Report … KA-Boom!

Last week the General markets went through a period of indecision. Each morning the futures were green, then the markets sold off into the close.  We had the Fed giving testimony to congress and the Brexit Vote scheduled for the end of the week. 

SPX 6-22

After the Brexit vote, the future went Ka-Boom, with Gold up almost $100 at one point, and the general markets  ( in the US/ and globally) panicked.

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SPX – The Dow closed down over 600 points, the NASDAQ was down over 200 points, and the Spx was down about 76 points. That is a rather ugly candle.

SPX 6-25

The ICL  (Lows) were not broken, but…

 

Any follow through on Monday and we’ll see a break down of those May lows.  I am looking at Banking and I think we can see where this is heading. If this is a clue, expect further selling and not a 1 day panic crash.

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BKX – This is a break down and indicates that even if you see a bounce, we are likely to be at the start of a real sell off. It is very interesting that last week, the banking index could not recover the 200 or 50 sma. They were both tagged and rejected by a bear flag and then Ka-Boom! Dropped like a lead weight. 

BKX 6-24

THE USD – At one point I did expect the USD to weakly bounce and back test the break down of the 200sma. I drew it here on June 9th. That could take 8-12 days or so I was thinking.

USD 6-8

Honestly, in recent reports the $USD was acting so weak that as it rolled over without tagging the 200sma, I did NOT expect it to show enough strength to get there. After the Brexit Vote, it went from 93 to 96 –  Ka-Boom! This now looks like a legitimate sign of strength, and of course we would expect Precious metals to suffer, but we know what happened there. They rejoiced, joined hands, and ran through the fields together (odd).  The USD now looks pretty strong, but I want to wait and see what it does from here.

USD 6-24

 

WTIC – We are on the 3rd daily cycle for Oil.  I expected Oil to make a move for $58-$60 in this daily cycle.  The recent lows were not taken out, so oil is not failing here, but let me tell you how I view things when the unexpected shows up.  By the way, this drop on Brexits vote was unexpected, and I still dont really know why Oil sold off ( and I dont care what any new news articles are giving for theory unless they reported it before the vote. Everyone has a theory after the fact). My view now is…

WTIC 6-24

Oil wkly – It is holding the 10WMA. That is bullish (So Far). It bears watching and I am becoming more cautious until I see proof that Oil intends to go higher, because I also see a possible rising bear wedge. It could run to the top of the wedge as shown ( $56-$60?)

OIL WKLY 6-24

The XLE did not break down either.

XLE 6-24

 

NATGAS –  Natgas Was not even affected Friday.

NATTY 6-24

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GOLD SILVER & MINERS

 

I’ve mentioned that we put in an ICL at the end of May, it was confirmed recently. I mentioned that I had been accumulating Miners for over 3 weeks. I thought that this recent selling may be a 1/2 cycle low  (still may have been), and I’ve mentioned a move to $1400+ – $1500 is possible. I used various charts like these 2 below. Nothing has changed here.

GOLD 5-17 longterma

GOLD WKLY 6-16

 I also have been saying that Buying Miners was prudent to have skin in the game, because a move out of a bullish ICL could last for Months. I pointed out the action in VGZ, ASM, MUX as signs of something good brewing.  Nothing has changed there either.   All that said, to be honest, I did NOT expect a move like this one Friday. 

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GOLD –  Ka-Boom.  I didn’t expect this reaction, but that does look like a huge high volume break from the consolidation even though it didn’t hold the highs. Again, this is only week 4 out of an ICL. This can continue higher.

GOLD 6-24d

GOLD WKLY – Gold is not overbought on the weekly. The chart remains bullish.

GOLD 6-24w

SILVER –  This chart looks like a nice solid base, which has good upside potential. It really hasn’t even broken out of its base yet. 

SILVER 6-24

GDX – MY JUNE 17th CHART –  A perfect break out & back test and tageting a nice run higher ( $35 to $40).

GDX 6-17w

GDX MONTHLY-  I posted this last week to show readers that they didn’t “miss the move” if they weren’t in Jan through April. Buy miners and have cash to deploy when the next run gets going. 

GDX MONTHLY 6-17

June 23 –  I wanted to show an important break out of the weekly chart. The 200Weekly MA was at $24.97.  I mentioned that we might have an a-b-c-d move to $35-$40.

GDX wkly 6-23

 

GDX Friday June 24th– GDX opened up around 10% higher and sold down too. BLACK CANDLES can be a short term top.   We’ll see.  On this chart I also point out that the Large Gap Open in early June had people waiting to buy the gap fill. That never happened. This Gap may fill this week, it may not. I do not know.

GDX 6-24 d

 

 This is an Older chart from June 3 –  Notice the gap open that DID Fill & see how it took a few days (I wrote that we may see this).  The GAP open this June 3rd day never did fill however. Again, Fridays may or may not fill.

 

GDX 6-4

 

GDX WEEKLY – This week GDX held the 10 WMA and moved higher.

GDX 6-24 w2

 

GDX WKLY BIG PICTURE – Read the chart. This chart shows that a core position has and should still do well going forward.

gdx 6-24W

 

SAND WEEKLY– I had pointed out that some Miners were worth looking at because they weren’t overbought and stretched to an extreme, but they were nice set ups.  This was SAND breaking out. I wrote on this chart that I expected SAND to close over $4.50 , this was a valid set up  ( BTG too).

SAND wkly brk out

SAND WEEKLY –  Closed at $4.83 and I do not think that it is done.  I ‘Guess’ that we could see a move to the 200 sma on a wkly basis ( 1-2-3-4-5) and then a pull back  ( a-b-c) before continuing higher.

SAND 6-24

 

SAND WKLY –  But when you step back and say ” I think Miners are recovering, and are back in a bull market”, you can see that being in it will pay off over time. It should triple plus.

SAND WKLY big pic 6-24

 

BTG –  I was recommending BTG for the same reasons as Sand (And MUX &VGZ). It now has broken out too, but formed a doji Friday. I will add on a pullback, but it also may just go sideways and higher from here. The arrows point out other dojis on bursts higher, it went sideways and then higher. 

BTG 6-24 1

BTG WEEKLY – Do you see why I like BTG here too? Notice the break over the 200 sma ( Weekly basis).

BTG WKLY 1

Guess what.  That is what I liked about MUX too.  The ICL was the back test when I started buying Miners. look at what MUX did after getting above that 200WMA. Remember that that is where GDX, SAND, and BTG are.

MUX 6-24 like sand

 

VGZ WKLY – Yup, broke above that long term resistance ( 200 WMA) and rocketed higher.  They wont all do that, but it is a bullish set up that often pays off.

VGZ 6-24w

GDXJ WEEKLY –  GDXJ also broke above the 200 WMA, yet is still inside the orange base. Seems that it will eventually will run to $70 .

GDXJ 6-24

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Most here remember that I bought TGD at 10 cents, 12 cents, etc on the first run higher.  Then it consolidated and I sold it, recently re-buying again near the 200sma when the ICL in Gold seemed to be near. I think that TGD  may be a good set up here too, let me explain why.

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TGD–  This closed above the 50sma and doesn’t look like much of a move, but it was up 10%  Friday and had strong volume (no gap also). Could it be setting up for a run?

TGD 6 24

 

TGD WKLY –  HHMMMM, this could be pushing & preparing to break out from a huge falling wedge and make its run to the 200wma over time.   Someone could even put this on their watch list and but it after it breaks out.

TGD WKLY 6-24

 

GFI –  I owned this for a while and it was dead money.  It just went sideways for weeks and I got bored with it.  I took a look this weekend and it really is carving out a 2-3 year base.  Recently it has been moving between that 50 & 200 Weekly Moving Averages in a 4+ month consolidation.   When this closes above $5 and above the 200wma, it could move to $10,  so I want it on my watch-list. 

GFI 6-24

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CRAZY WEEK?  Yes, but think about it, it was really a CRAZY FRIDAY, so we need more time to know how certain things will play out, right?  The General Markets, IBB, XBI, XLE, OIL, Commodities, etc. all reacted unexpectedly Friday.  Gold & Miners remained the same.   I cannot tell you that I know exactly what will happen in those areas this coming week.  I do think Precious Metals are Bullish.  Oil is not broken, but bears watching. ( CWEI made a great move Friday).  The $USD surprised me to the upside and the markets got clocked and now look quite bearish.

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 So, I think we need more time to really know how things will play out going forward.  Lets see what Monday and maybe Tuesday reveal. One thing remained the same.  GOLD, SILVER, and MINERS do look like the the most bullish game in town. Ka-Boom! Monday will reveal a bit there too. Follow through? Gap fill? Buying opportunity?  Further gains? And I want to see what OIL & ENERGY do, since they are on the edge. 

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Will Oil break down? Will Miners gap fill? Will Gold just surge ahead? I do think that we can expect margin calls and more selling in the general markets. Lets be patient and see what Monday & Tuesday bring our way.  I am still bullish Precious Metals and Miners longer term. Monday should be interesting. Thanks for being here at Chartfreak and I hope that all had a restful weekend.

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~ALEX

155 replies
  1. Johnny
    Johnny says:

    Thank you Alex for shedding light on this past Friday. I appreciate the individual miners you mentioned. I also think that its odd that CWEI can move like crazy while OAS just sits there. I’m going back for read number two. Thanks!

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Thanks Johnny – I know CWEI and EMES, Wow! I step back and look at the 1 year chart ( wkly shows it well too), they just look ready t recover, and I still like BTE on the wkly. I just want a bit more time to see what Oil wants to do in the near term.

      I still think the lows in Oil are in.

      • Bill
        Bill says:

        Alex, you think $46.54 is the low in oil? or are you talking about the bigger picture with $26.30.

      • Bill
        Bill says:

        CWEI was up amidst all the selling on Friday. Would you hold here, set a stop, or sell and lock in the profits? I can’t see it going up more with OIL dropping?

        • chartfreak1
          chartfreak1 says:

          If you look at the 10 and 20 sma, it didnt break either Friday, landed on it and reversed higher. Still above the 50sma too.

          Do what you want with it going forward, it isnt breaking down yet. Take your money if you want to lock in gains, raise stop if you think it is strong, take profits, sell a partial if the position is big.etc.

      • deshy
        deshy says:

        I wonder if BTE is creating a right should on an inverse H&S (which also is around the re-test of the LT weekly TL? Ahh…what do I know? But I’m out for now and will re-enter when things settle…some oen always said there’s always another trade;-)

  2. Shermo
    Shermo says:

    CF. thank you for sharing SAND. Sounds like an interesting business model and good for trading. This ICL has been great. Thanks for pointing it out early for us!!!

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Hey Shermo, ur welcome, and I must say, since I mentioned BTG and SAND, they are doing well, but noticeably a slower move than out of the lows in January for many miners.

      SAND is up about $1 in 3 weeks, and BTG is up less. In Jan to Feb, some Miners doubled in 3 weeks. I attribute some of that to Miners being very oversold and ‘shorted’ then, so the spring was loaded.

      I’m not 100% sure, but we may have to be a bit more patient here. I know that VGZ and MUX really exploded, and I would have expected SAND and BTG to do that with Gold up $60 Friday….so this next run may be more of a slow and steady for some of these. That is why I thought that maybe this time we grab the ones not so extended above the 200sma. THEN we may get more of a burst ( Mux & VGZ were not too extended in June over the 200sma). Its a plan that seems to be working for now ; )

  3. nancytheartist
    nancytheartist says:

    Alex, I was reviewing some stocks I have in another account. What do you think of Silvercorp SVMLF? It is a Canadian company mining in China. From the website: “Silvercorp is China’s largest publicly listed primary silver producer, with annual production of 5.0 million ounces of silver in fiscal year 2016. The Company also produced 52.5 million pounds of lead, 17.5 million pounds of zinc and 2,400 ounces of gold during the same period.” I have horrid losses in that one as I was caught in it when the company was targeted and attacked by a short player who spread rumors and tanked the stock fast [and made 2.8 million shorting it in a day according to an article I read [!] in 2011 I think. The company went after him in court but eventually he got away with it. Company never really recovered but is recently showing some signs of life. It is not some tiny company.
    Thanks, Nancy

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Hi nancy – I had that one on my “I want to buy this’ list, but I passed because of the low volume on some days. It is a good set up. The chart shows that they did very well recently.

      $0.40 cents to $2.45 in 2016. Thats is HUGE!! It may not feel it to you if you bought it at $10, because you just want to see $10, but it is doing excellent, and is working its way higher.

      To give it perspective, If you threw $10.000 on it in January , you’d have $56.000+ today. It is back near 2016 highs and has a nice consolidation. I like the set up

      ( That said, If some guy starts telling rumors and shorts the daylights out iof it next week, so he can buy more lower, dont blame me) ; )

      J/K – looks good at this point.

      • chartfreak1
        chartfreak1 says:

        By the way, China is regulated a lot differently that U.S. or other companies. Lets just say that they’ve been known to ‘fudge the numbers’ , to ‘cook the books’, but we’ll just go by what we they say for now.

        • nancytheartist
          nancytheartist says:

          Thanks for taking a look. They did go through some class action lawsuits too and I don’t trust Chinese companies after my Syntax-Brillian experience [remember Olevia TVs?] That was a scam pretending it was a company! Silvercorp used to trade as SVM, but delisting really impacted it.

          • chartfreak1
            chartfreak1 says:

            I remember SVM – I liked it then too. I ssee silver as still inside a base, and many silver stocks have already really moved up nicely.

            I do think we are in the next bull phase for precious metals and I do think that these will benefit in the long run even more.

  4. Peter Castillo
    Peter Castillo says:

    Good morning Alex!!! What can you see as far as the other commodity stocks like FCX, AKS, CENX, & VALE??? I know steel broke through its 50 sma on friday. They are all still above their major long term ma’s, but does your expectations for steel, alum, and copper change after friday?? Asking for a friend… 😉

    • Cason
      Cason says:

      You stole my question 4 Min before I could ask it!! 😛 Same here – am up pretty big on CLF, thought we had more room to go but macro conditions are overwriting fundamentals and changing charts. Don’t want to get bucked off with 2 volatile days, but maybe it’s better to cash out winners and wait?

      • chartfreak1
        chartfreak1 says:

        G-Morning Peter & Cason

        Nothing changed in the Big picture and if we are experiencing inflation, they could still rise (Weekly charts look good), but short term, a few dropped with strong volume and I often just get out of the way in case we get some follow through.

        As an example: In the comments on friday I posted a chart of HBM and said that I sold it. It wasn’t “Ugly”, but I sold it simply because i had good profits and we were getting some serious selling in almost everything but precious metals. If HBM then flipped and broke above $5, I’d just get back in and not cry about missing a bit of the move, but if it sold off to $3 & I held it, I’d be a bit bummed for giving it back.

        WEEKLY CHARTS for Commodities still look ok. I do think THE bottom is in in commodities. I’m not buying the dip yet, until I can get a better read for what is next short term.

          • chartfreak1
            chartfreak1 says:

            Hi Moe

            I own it, I love that weekly chart a lot! Look at it on a 1 or 2 year weekly. Very nice.

            I was going to put it in tonights report ( released tomorrow morning usually after proof reading ).

          • Moe Demers
            Moe Demers says:

            I already bought Friday afternoon and also purchased BTE. Slightly higher than todays prices but a long position. Thanks CF.

          • chartfreak1
            chartfreak1 says:

            Ok- well refresh for a chart.

            it is possible that it could fall to $140 ish? I use those moving averages. It doesn’t have to fall there, it can go sideways too, but it does look to be trending higher now in an uptrend channel.
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  5. Siva
    Siva says:

    Dear Alex
    Have a nice day
    What is your take on EU banks? Very tempting jump in stocks like Barclays, UBS. Barclays in pre-market down another 20%. Totally down more than 40% from last two days.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Hi Siva

      I’m not tempted at this point. This is not a stable area or one that is acting smoothly. It may go up, it may go down, so far, selling has been heavy and deliberate.

  6. R Byram
    R Byram says:

    Alex I am still quite long oil and a bit anxious to say the least. Do you see any reason to pull the panic button yet?

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      I dont like that $46.40 was broken, because that was what I was looking at as a DCL for the 2nd daily cycle. That “Could” indicate that the 3rd daily cycle is already weak and rolling over.

      If Oil rallied from here , then there would always be the argument that OIL is just now putting in the2nd daily cycle low, but I lightened up on my oil positions because it just doesn’t make sense to me that OIL sold off on Brexit.

      I do think that the $26 lows will be The lows, but a 3rd and 4th daily cycle lower could “test” the lows.

      Long story short, in the report I mentioned that I am cautious and would be watching how things unfold. Oil is flirting with the 50sma and the 200sma is still under it, but you definitely need to have stops in place and honor them.

      • R Byram
        R Byram says:

        Thanks Alex – all my worst trades this year are when I sold at times like this. I appreciate your caution – I have CRK that is below where a stop should have been – and I would need to take quite a hit on it – aaaarg

        • chartfreak1
          chartfreak1 says:

          I actually was out of all of my energy trades, and I dont know why, but I bought GST. 🙂 On a daily chart it slammed down on strong volume, bounced, and now could be back testing that first drop. on light volume and MACD divergence.

          SO I may buy it and hold as long as it acts correctly, or I may sell it if it pops.

          SO I only own Miners, IPI, GST., cash at this point until I get a better picture of whats happening short term after that Friday shake up.

          • chartfreak1
            chartfreak1 says:

            I forgot to add that on a 1 month chart, GST also landed on an uptrend line. It has been basing for a little while. Still a bit of a risky trade

          • R Byram
            R Byram says:

            I know why I am in oil – because my mind cannot conceive that the industry can survive at these prices – it’s going broke en mass – but the markets will be what they will be and I need a lobotomy.

            A few of the lower beta names seem to be catching some traction now – PPL, VII, ECA core holdings for me with a good cushion.

      • Chris
        Chris says:

        Hi Bill. Talking about speed of losses. Domestic building stocks in the UK and we are talking major comapnies here and which had great looking fundamentals have lost somewhere in the region of 35% to 50% just since the close last Thursday on the back of Brexit and have given up between 3 and 5 years of steady gains in the process!! I think that will take some beating.

          • Chris
            Chris says:

            A bit nasty to say the least. And my guess is that those would be a core holding in many funds and private portfolios especially given how good they looked on fundamentals. The Brexit vote in the UK has already produced serious and likely unforseen consequences. The two major political parties are in major turmoil and there are extreme levels of uncertainty, which I suspect markets here will absolutely hate. I suspect the fun in this part of the world has barely begun!!!

          • Cason
            Cason says:

            Wasn’t worth it was it? Sunday night CNBC stated that 2 TRILLION was ereased global from financial markets in Friday alone. In. One. Day. Cheers!

  7. Chris
    Chris says:

    I’ve jsut seen an alert the CME will be increasing margins by 20% from close of business today. Given that hedge funds apparently have huge long positions in gold just wondering if that may havea possible impact and force some liquidation of leveraged positions and cause a pull back in the short term?? Just a thought!

          • Cason
            Cason says:

            Doesn’t stop me from dribbling garbage late at night. Or random useless gifs being posted either…

        • chartfreak1
          chartfreak1 says:

          I disagree, you tend to add thinking to the buy & hold or longer term view in some areas, which keeps a good balance at times.

          I used to use the 13, 34 and the 22,44,66 in the past in uptrend for miners. ( I always use a more standard 10, 20, 50, 200 on public charts, but I swap a lot of stuff around in my personal research). I didnt bother with that 22,44,66 in the bear market.

          Now I’m using them ( 22,44, 66 ) more frequently again in my behind the scenes research , than I did in the bear mkt for Miners.

          I believe you mentioned them in a comment once.

          • Chris
            Chris says:

            Hi Alex. And I think you’re being kind! 🙂 I have very likely mentioned the 22 and 66. I also use ema’s rather than sma’s as in general they just seem to work better for me. I think I read years ago that someone backtested just about every ma possble and apparently the 22 day and 66 day produced very good results over the long term. They certainly help on a lot of my charts as well as 200, 300 and 400 day ema’s for the much longer term analysis. But as you will well know, it’s often just a case of tweaking something a little and finding what works best for any given stock at any given time normally based on it’s prior history. But I find these make good starting points for me. Ultimately there is no ‘holy grail’ ma combo just like there is no ‘holy grail’ indicator or system. Just some that can tip the odds in our favour over the long term when correctly applied. And that’s pretty much a never ending learning process!! At least it is for me!!

          • chartfreak1
            chartfreak1 says:

            Yes,

            And to my point – It was that your comments were good and valuable, and I even remembered who mentioned it in a comment…what? 3 months ago? 🙂

            Good to hear from ya and everyone when you post – it adds to the learning process

  8. R Byram
    R Byram says:

    Check out TET.TO – Triilogy Energy – rising chart – above the 10 dma – it’s oil companies like these that keep me coming back for more

  9. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    I was looking to do a little adding on the dip.

    SAND – was hoping for a $4.50 gap fill & back test.

    BTG not giving it up today yet, but could do a gap fill.

    TGD to 30 cents would be nice,

    But whats up with EXK & GPL? That looks a tad unhealthy with high volume and EXK looks like an engulfing candle.

      • rob
        rob says:

        But the 50sma is my stop as it is offering decent support. A close below the 50 and I am out of it.

        • chartfreak1
          chartfreak1 says:

          HA – your EXK made its way back up 🙂

          Look at the 10 & 20 & 50 SMA. I like it.

          And I own GPL, thats why I mentioned the 2 of them. Silver stocks have been ripping, I just didint like the selling in these, but its trying to come back too.

          • Rob
            Rob says:

            I know. EXK is strong and I will be holding it long-term. I want to own a basket of smaller miners to hold until the top (where ever that is). I dont mean this ICL, I mean the ultimate top.

          • Tammie
            Tammie says:

            Yes, indeed! So glad….:) I’m sitting on GPL also and have been waiting for it to come back…bought when it was about 1.67 or so, so have been waiting patiently to get back to break even….keep hoping if I just sit tight it will pay off…

  10. R Byram
    R Byram says:

    just when I was starting to see some of the oils firm up a bit – all of a sudden crude takes another dip lower.

  11. deshy
    deshy says:

    Alex, I wonder your thoughts on the IC starting in Jan 19 for $SPX? This would be week 23 of a RT IC. Daily count also around 26 so maybe another week or 2 before the ICL then off to the races?? The weekly just looks like it’s going to be oversold so can’t imagine this going on for too much longer?? [BTW: no, I’m not placing my money on this thesis ;-)]

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      The low after that on the first week of Feb broke the Jan lows. I ‘buy’ that as a shake out, but I also tend to mark that as THE low, since it was the lowest low.

      Could it be an anomaly? Possible, but I wont put my money on it either, since it does have less of a chance.

      If I was looking to go long for a bounce, I would follow the VIX, CPCE, Sentiment, etc, and one may catch a good bounce, but right now I am just watching how these roll out.

      And playing Miners

  12. Bill
    Bill says:

    USOIL and ENERGY stocks when will it end? USOIL is suffering a severe pullback. Dropping form a high at $51.43 its now at $46.43. I had originally had the 12345 going up to $60. I am now thinking we had the 12345 complete at $51.43 and are now going through a ABC correction. If A and C are equal we could go as low as $44.57. If we get a double bottom here it could be over. My question to the EW crew, where do you typically peg C to end? I have Maria’s box drawn in at $44.57 ish.

    https://www.tradingview.com/chart/USOIL/v2UcvrEq-USOIL/

  13. Cason
    Cason says:

    Wow, what a horrible, horrible 2 days in the market. I had finally made up from the April/May commodity crush as of last Thurs when my cheeky British friends turned the music off. Energy is killing me. If we’re down tomorrow, I’ll have no choice but to let it go. Which should mark a short term bottom. 😛

    I did well CLF today. I had a pretty large position and a nice profit, just couldn’t take the chance it went down further though my original target was higher.

    My miners being up a nickel has been little solace.

  14. Peter Castillo
    Peter Castillo says:

    Alex and the rest of my CF peeps!!!! Hope you are all having a healthy and happy monday. Maybe not richer, but happy and healthy are the best 2 out of those 3. I hate doing this, because I have exchanged thoughts and ideas with a few of you out there, and I can tell you are really a good group of people. I’ve been kicking it around in my head to leave CF and keep following a system that I am comfortable with. I was doing very well, and to be honest, I did better following my system, than what I’ve been able to do with Alex. Big Al!! This is not a knock on you big man!!! It all comes down to the question we asked a few weeks back: what kind of trader are you??? I’ve expressed many times that I am more ,,,

      • Peter Castillo
        Peter Castillo says:

        Fred! Life is funny that way!! One thing I can guarantee you though is that not 2 people here have the same exact result. A lot of people might be up 300%!! Some might be down 30%. How come? All I know is that had I stayed doing what I was comfortable with, I’d be up over 40% higher than I am now. Easy math. Have to go back to what was working. Wish you luck! Blessings.

        • fred
          fred says:

          I’m not a daytrader…I don’t play alex’s picks… I pay attention to his trend analysis… and maybe I’m a little nuts but I do like the ultra etf’s..
          Good Luck to you too.

          • Peter Castillo
            Peter Castillo says:

            Before joining Alex, all my focus was in ERX/ERY, JNUG/JDST, GDXJ, AUY, KGC, EXK, and sometimes LABU/LABD. That was it! But what you just said though, I find super intriguing. Why would you follow Alex and ignore his picks? I don’t see the sense in that. I know you just follow Alex’s trend analysis, but I just don’t really see why follow someone just for trend analysis. If you look at a chart you can see clear as day which way the trend is. But anyhow Fred, what I was doing was not too far off from what has worked for you. Thats why I’m going back to what was working! You be good Fred-man. Wish you luck as well!! We are all in this for the same goal.

          • chartfreak1
            chartfreak1 says:

            Actually Peter,

            I have had many say that I have called turns, bottoms and top better than any they know, and it helps with their style. They use options, 3x etfs and trade as I call it.

            To each his own, Sorry to see you go.

            best wishes

          • Maria
            Maria says:

            I have gained an enormous …..stabbing pain in my A $$ since meeting u … .. my chatfeakbrother…..
            And well u no 2016 has been a great year 🙂
            Patience &discipline are key 4me…
            But then again.. i luv watching… and have always been great at waiting……

          • Maria
            Maria says:

            kol… That’s me… waitung Patiently for my Cousin to get his butt up there….Priceless. …

          • chartfreak1
            chartfreak1 says:

            I love memories of childhood like that. I actually think that the pony is the most patient one : )

            And bonus, I think the striped shirts that you are both wearing are back in style!

          • Maria
            Maria says:

            giggle… yes squared.
            that’s the first thing I noticed as well…. those sweeeet sweeet ponies&horses were just like big dogs — loyal, trusted, true blue friends.
            We used to ‘pretend’ we were trick riders & hang on&off them – run&jump on via the butt -they never blinked or budged …

          • fred
            fred says:

            alex seems to predict trend changes pretty early… how could you lose money playing etf’s if that’s true. why manage 10 PM stocks when you have gdx gdxj
            gld slv and the ultra’s for example.
            sure, you can see the trend after it’s going for a while that’s why it’s recommended to play the C or 3 wave. and it’s why people buy at the top and sell at the bottom.

          • chartfreak1
            chartfreak1 says:

            Hi Fred, (And thanks)

            That is exactly what I have heard from others. They have used turning points for entry in ETFs ( 3X too) and done rather well. If I call an ICL is due, or timing for a top is due since it is getting late in a run, the time to act is sooner, not after someone sees a ‘trend’ get confirmation. some that do act on it and start a trade sooner than later, do better ( maybe even a small position in 3x etfs at lows, ICLs).

            Others that might wait for their own comfortable style of waiting – maybe for the 10sma to cross the 20sma, or the 50 to cross the 200sma, and then they feel they have ‘confirmation of a trend’, but jumping in after the run stats moving is not always rewarding. Waiting for a pull back is necessary than.

            Take a look at many chart where the 50sma crosses the 200sma higher. Many call that a BUY , a confirmation of an uptrend, and that usually sells into a dip before resuming higher.

            ( I’m not saying that is Peters style, I dont think it is, I’m just using that as an example. I have seen Peter post on here when he is buying ERX, ERY, LABU , etc. It wasn’t following my calls at lows usually, but he wants to blame someone . )

    • nancytheartist
      nancytheartist says:

      Sorry to see you go, but you do have to find what works best for you. Keep enjoying your family! Best,
      Nancy

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      I just went through and read a lot of your comments posted here in real time. Just to be fair to me and as a point of interest, I dont think you were really following me with all of your losses. You were definitely jumping in and out of leveraged positions ERX, ERY, LABU, UWTI, etc using ‘special macd settings’ and hourly charts , using the 100sma, and acc/ distr lines, etc according to your posts. : )

      I’m not trying to ‘Call you out” , but You told us that you were trading using your own methods. You were talking about special macd settings and buying LABU at the 100sma & it dropped right away ( I wasn’t covering IBB, XBI, or LABU for the past month but you were ), other settings that you were using to buy SID on a 1 hr chart with special MACD settings, LABU, ERX, KGC, UWTI, UCO didnt match cycle timing for entry

      You said you have made more trades than in the past. 3x ETFs continually getting stopped out and re-entering is very costly (If that is what happened, I dont know).

      Oil just ran from $26 to $50+ and it was called pretty good here. You’ve been buying leveraged etfs. UWTI, ERY, ERX, LABU , LABD, using a different method, etc.

      If you lost a lot of money on that oil run, I’m sorry to hear that, but was it my service here or 3x etfs losses? Did you blow up your account? I just dont know if you were following my calls or using delayed entry waiting for special macd settings – buying nearer to tops and selling drops, getting caught leveraged in pull backs like Fridays?

      You said that you were hugely successful in Miners in the last run, now you lost it all. That sounds like possible 3x etfs chopping you up.

      Regardless, Using your system all alone may work best for you, less distraction, but beware of all those leveraged 3x etf trades in choppy markets.

      I wish you well.

  15. Moe Demers
    Moe Demers says:

    I haven’t posted in a while but wanted to thank CF for all his valued information. I am not a trading expert by any means and have learned ‘patience’ and to do diligence on all positions I decide to purchase. I think many here have made decent gains when stocks broke to new grounds with CF recommendations and to decide if you want to take a profit or at the very least put in stop losses to not lose gains ~ very basic and recommended ways to keep the gains and minimize the losses. It would be unfair to praise CF when we double our money but yet gripe when you lose your shirt when caution is always discussed in his posts. Some need to always be in numerous positions thinking that they will miss the boat if not in ‘something’ but then there are others who sit by the sidelines with cash on hand waiting patiently for the correct setups. In the end we make our own decisions and need to take responsibility for our actions. Years ago before CF I tried to hit a grand slam and lost my shirt and was bitter for many years and then signed up on this site and took the little remaining money I didn’t lose and told myself I would win it all back but it wouldn’t happen over night. Well, it almost happened overnight with the way some of CF recommendations fell into place. If it takes me years to make back my money then I would be excited. Well, it’s been a little over 3 months and I am well on my way to accomplishing my goals. I could easily let my subscription expire and try to do it alone but that is what got me in the original mess in the first place. So, in all things show patience, do diligence and research all positions with protective mechanisms to secure gains and stop losses.

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