March 3- Behind The Beauty Cracks Appear

This week we saw the Markets continue to fly higher and even Gold and Silver were making new highs. What happened to the Miners? Behind all that beauty, cracks appeared, and that is going to be the focus of the weekend report. I have a LOT to discuss, so lets get right into it.

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SPX – We are very due for a dip into a dcl, but this is strong. Look for a break of the 10sma, please read the chart, I do not think that a dip will mark the top.

 

USD – We do have a peak so far on day 19  ( R.T.) and are due for a dip into a dcl at any time. A break of the trendline will help to identify it. Being right translated daily cycle, we would expect a higher high than day 19 on the 2nd daily cycle. Then we approach the FED DAY.

WTIC – When this breaks, it should lead to a big move ( SPX was doing this sideways consolidation before its big move). Smart money says it will break lower, they are short.

NATGAS – With a swing low and a move above the 10sma, it was a low risk entry last week. It could blast higher, but the problem is that the 200sma may be resistance and then it could roll over into another drop to an even  lower dcl. This looks like a LOW last November and a strong run, and the a couple of failing daily cycles with lower lows. I am not sure that that pattern is done yet or not.  A buyer could stop out below the 10sma or recent lows if it rolls over, but it is a good long set up at this point.

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GOLD , SILVER, & MINERS

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What can I say?  I have done a TON of research here, but I don’t really think that it is helpful to share all 40 or 50 charts that I have gathered at once. It is too much information all at once. I have some that give us bullish implications, and others that are more neutral to bearish, so for now I will share some of the important research here, we’ll let the charts tell the story.

 

Review for starters:  FRIDAYS report pointed out the obvious dilemma.  1. Gold and Silver were holding up at the highs, in very right translated daily cycles.  2. Miners took a dive.  3. I actually pointed out a while ago, even before this recent dip in Miners, that GOLD & SILVER made obvious dips to the 50sma into a dcl.  Miners made a series of higher lows and did NOT dip to the 50sma, may be putting in one strong long extended daily cycle that now has eventually crashed down.  Lets pick up from there.

 

GOLD – We all know that Miners took a beating this week.  Gold looks perfectly normal.  That raises questions like,

1. ” Will Gold now follow that crash course that the Miners took?”

or

2. ” Are the Miners being slammed down to shake everyone out, and will Miners then continue higher when Gold moves higher?”

Good questions, next week will probably reveal it.  Please read the chart and we’ll move on.

SILVER – Just looking at GOLD & SILVER, you would not say that they are in a bear market, you would see 2 very bullish charts from December to now. Silver did experience a stronger drop than Gold. It could tag the 50sma.

GDX from Fridays report– Way steeper sell off than the precious Metals. A ledge of support from November to the left and a 61.8% retrace level is where we find ourselves now.

GDX – All by itself, this chart is not too bad, but when Gold was at the highs and Miners plunged, we saw something that does not make sense.  Also a break below the 50 & 200sma DOES need to recover sooner than later.

Also we have seen individual Miners like PAAS, CDE, EGO, etc that were strong , get clobbered. So we do have concerns, earnings have been concerning.  Is the Bull alive? Has this happened before and if it did, what was next? Is there a safe way to still play the precious Metals sector?  ( Yes there is).   What are we looking for going forward?

I would like to see something  like this going forward, but I will discuss alternate ideas too. Lets say for now that Gold does continue to hold up and Miners are being shook out, to rattle the weak hands and allow bigger buyers to step in at lower price. This would be a shake out below the 50sma. HOWEVER- I have had other ideas too, I’ll discuss later.

Here is another idea that I mentioned before. Clear drops to the 50sma in Gold, clear dcls. Miners did NOT drop ot he 50sma, they made higher lows at that time.  Id THIS 1 strong cycle of Miners, and this is their first dip to a dcl? Maybe GOLD & SILVER are doing the cycles thing, and Miners are just fluctuating on their own path of sentiment, bullish to bearish, overbought to oversold?

GDX waving good bye –  Of course, this is a very bullish way of looking at the recent drop, and how it could still fit into the big bull picture,  IF THE DROP STOPS HERE NEAR 2.  I’m actually getting less of a feel for this, and I have other ideas that deal with a consolidation , as you will see. What if the drop in Miners doesn’t stop here? I have bearish views also, based on what just happened, but I want to show you something else that may surprise you.

 I have had readers write to me and already say that “This drop in Miners is not bullish, and I know now that the bear market returned last August to December. Maybe it was the Trump Election,  I dont know why, but there is no way that Miners can drop any further and still be in a bull market.”  Have you heard that too?  Is that a fact? The Miners cannot drop any further and still be in a Bull Market?

  History proves that statement wrong as you will see. Charts dont lie, so let’s take a look.

 

 Did you  know that we had a solid beautiful Bull run in Precious Metals from 2000 to 2012 ( With a big blip in 2008)? Of course you did.   Maybe you traded it too. I rode that bull and traded it a lot, and I remember puzzling and unpredictable moves in that run too, so let me show you some things similar to what we are seeing now.

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EARLY IN THE BULL –  HUI WEEKLY CHART – Do you see the big run higher with the Magenta lines $35 to $80?  Then a pull back to the first blue arrow and everyone expected a push to new highs in this early bull market.  Next you see a solid run higher with 2 daily cycles and then it rolled over and had a slam down, Just like we just had after a run higher in 2 daily cycles. After another daily cycle, it had another slam down and actually broke the lows of the first blue arrow.  That is what it could look like if Miners bounce after the recent slam down, and then pull all the way back to December lows and double bottom.  This was a double bottom in Miners in a Bull Market. It remained a bull market and ran higher.

The POINT?: I’m not saying we will see this, but it needs to be looked at as a possibility, it happened early in the Bull of 2001. And when you hear someone say, “This is NOT bull market activity. Miners are done!”  Ask them for proof, because I hear emotional stuff like that a lot, and yet I see facts that say otherwise.   THIS IS A CONSOLIDATION PHASE IN A BULL MARKET. 2 daily cycles higher and 2 lower back to the lows, and it looks like 2 big slams down on the weekly chart.

Let’s see another interesting run. Gold looked healthy and strong in the 2004-2005 stage of the bul, right? Do you like this chart? Would you like to invest in May and ride it?

 

A close up shows that Gold was making higher lows and moving higher daily cycle after daily cycle. Look at the Blue line and the Green line though.  That daily cycle almost hit the lows of the prior one. This was s till a strong bull run. What did Miners do at that May 2004 Bull Run??

WHOA!  Miners sold off to new lows in August as a shake out ( Or consolidation phase) and then followed Gold higher.

 

This was a cycle failure – but remember that Gold didn’t have one, it had the highr low when we loked at the blue line & Green line in the gold chart above.   SO I have often said,  I use the underlying Metal over the emotional Miners at times.  I would then have to label this…

  Using cycles this would actually be a FAILED 2nd daily cycle, undercutting the first dcl, but this was really just a ‘bullish consolidation phase” and it followed Gold higher later.

Here is one that you won’t believe unless you see it too.  After that same steep sell off into an ICL in May 2004, we saw a rally and a break out of the trend line  ( THE BULL IS BACK BABY!), back to the 2003 highs!    Then it rolled over in 2005 and sold off until it put in a double bottom that actually back tested that break out a year earlier. I’m sure that many were yelling ” The Bear is back baby, I’m shorting this thing!”, during 2005 too.   A strong rally and back to the former lows became a huge 2 year consolidation and a double bottom in a bull market.

Does the above chart help you to see what we may be dealing with  (unfortunately) if this is just a consolidation phase? Look at that above chart, that had great bull runs out of ICLs, and steeper drops too, and that gets unpredictable. THIS IS WHEN STOPS SAVE YOU. Look at the above chart during  April 2003 to April 2004.  1 year of consolidation in a Bull Market.  If we had a 1 day slam down last Monday and some follow through, and you hear people screaming that there is no way this can be a bull market-  they have a lot to learn. Be careful who you listen to, follow the charts of Bull market action.  If you have been here for a while, you may recall that I have used GOOG, AAPL, IBM, NVDA, etc charts to show my readers that BULL MARKETS are also tough to ride, though they look easy in hindsight.

 

It’s easy to ride the consolidations in hindsight, but these slam downs look as ugly as GDX right now, even making new lows. Here goog was $573, today GOOG is at $829, but it is not all straight up.

 

You should have a look at the HUI during the 2006-2007 Bull run in Gold. I’m almost afraid to show you the chart that follows…

 

This was the HUI during Golds bull run 2006-2007. A HUGE consolidation that most likely would have killed JNUG & JDST traders. Very frustrating.

So the good news is that these LONG consolidations like we are seeing in 2007  are a breather after a Longer run higher.  This one was 6-7 tears after the bull started, so we are NOT likely to be seeing a consolidation of that size yet. Could we be seeing consolidation within a bull market though?

Look at the consolidation that we looked at in 2002 in this chart?  That was about a year after the big run up, and that is close to where we are now after th 2016 run higher. All I am saying is that what we are seeing can still be Bull market activity, but it is less predictable and tough to trade at times. look at that SLAM down in what looks to be Aug 2002. Brutal, but those lows were never tagged again in this run.

If you wanted the absolute safest way to profit from Miners, buying the ICL and holding for a 2 – 3 month period of time is the safest.  EVEN BEAR MARKET ICLs produce 2 strong daily cycles higher. 2 months of good gains in most cases.

GOLD ( Ignore the writing, its an old chart where I was hunting for the ICL).  Look at the magenta lines those are ICLs.  Even buying bear market ICLs was good for several weeks of gains/ bounce.

So now do we step aside and wait for the next  ICL?  If you want to be ultraconservative, you could. If you bought the DEC lows that ran until February, you made Great gains.  You can do that again at the next ICL if you are patient. They usually are due about 5 or 6 months after the last one .  We had one in Dec ( so May-ish?) The above chart shows that they were spread out about 5-6 months, and OCCASIONALLY 4 months ( April-ish?).

 

This chart told us that Miners COULD sell off or be weak until March 15- showing a double bottom and then a strong move higher even though Gold didnt make a double bottom.

This chart showed us that Miners on a weekly basis also slammed down 1 week in OCT 2001, bounced for a couple of weeks, and slammed again to a double bottom low and then took off higher. That looks like 2 ICLs double bottom only 4 months apart after a huge run up. Anything can happen and keep it a Bull market.

CONCLUSION: This report is designed simply to help you to see that BULL MARKETS can move in ways that you may not expect them too.  Right now I personally am seeing signs of inflation (bullish for Gold) , talk of a Fed Rate hike in March ( Gold has an initial reaction that is whippy after a hike, but then moves higher. You can see how this happened after the  Dec 2015 and Dec 2016 rate hikes.  Gold ICLs formed then).  So going forward, this CAN still be a bull market, with a consolidation awaiting the Fed or other factors.   I will be watching that USD closely going forward.  It could put in a left translated 2nd daily cycle, and that would be bullish for Gold too.  SO I am not going to stop trading this sector with the March Fed Meeting approaching, but I am monitoring things for more clues along the way.  I will look in other sectors too, for those that want trade ideas outside of Miners until the next ICL.  Some readers looking for the safest play may just want to wait for the next ICL to catch a strong move for a few weeks again out of those lows.

As you can see from this report, Miners in the past have sold off deeper than Gold. Miners also have sold off much deeper than what we just saw, yet remained in a bull market,  they even double bottomed in 2004.   We should expect anything, and with the Fed Meeting approaching, isn’t it possible that this 2nd daily cycle is a confusing consolidation and then the next could run higher?  Time will help us to see how things may unfold.

 

The last part of this report was all big picture reporting. Past consolidations proved tricky, and that may be where we are.  If you wonder what the short term possibilities are, I did mention it in the first charts of GDX and GDXJ , so you can scroll back up and we’ll see that  …

1. The USD peaked on day 19, should soon roll over into a dcl.

2. Maybe Miners bounce from here with that?  Those thoughts are above in this report.

I DO have more big picture research to share at a future date, for now this is sufficient to answer the most common question that I am getting,

” Does this slam down in Miners mean that the Bull Market is done?” What did the charts tell us?

 So I have more to share from my research, but it is Sunday night and I really need to release this information tonight to give people time to review it. Let’s see what next week brings and again, we’ll try to benefit from the signs that we get along the way with the USD , GOLD, SILVER, and the MINERS. We may get a nice bounce next week for the traders still in this game.  At times we need patience and clarity, so I’d keep positions small at this point. Enjoy your Monday trading!

 

~ALEX

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I really want to release what I have on Sunday night, instead of Monday morning, so I am finishing  this report here.  I dont have time to proof read,  so you may find some TYYYPOS and MIIIIStakes.  Please overlook them. I really wanted to release this for the sake of time. Thanks!

157 replies
  1. pankef
    pankef says:

    Excellent historical perspective. Scanning the various blogs this weekend, i did not find a single BULL (not counting the perma-bulls) on the miners with the general consensus being “they have had it”.

  2. deshy
    deshy says:

    Alex, Thanks for the hard work and report!! I’m in no rush to jump in too early. You’ve made me some good money over the last several months and I’d prefer to keep it and see it grow. Small position now only and waiting for the next ICL to dive in [I do think we’ll do the double bottom thing b/c us gamblers despite your clear warnings will continue to play and need to be punished ;-)]

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      I know. There is a safe way to play it and hold on to our gains, and I’ve already chipped away at a bit of mine with a few JNUG attempts for a pop. Waiting until the next ICL is a clear winner, but I am a bit more of a trader than that – we;ll see what happens : )

      Fed Mtg in March could get interesting with all that is going on 🙂

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Thx Evan –
      We had a big drop, and it can of course be a sign of weakness, but I just needed to show the past Bull markets had something similar and it was NOT automatically ” The bear market is back for sure”. That emotional reaction by others can mislead many. Time will tell what is really going on.

      Some of the past sell offs were a lot worse than this one with their double bottoms.

  3. Evan
    Evan says:

    Following up with a quick question Alex. In this environment, generally speaking, at what MAs (or just below what MAs) would you be looking to place stops for the larger miners and also for the juniors? Thanks again for an excellent report and all that work.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      It is hard to say without the actual trade in front of me. ..they often vary

      It Kind of depends on where you bought it, and how much you are willing to lose on the risk side of it. Some shake outs drop it below the 50sma, and then it recovers- so it may depend on the trade.

      Sorry I couldn’t be more helpful

  4. chakrit
    chakrit says:

    Thanks Alex, Your report is very helpful and make readers think using historical data support and take away emotional.
    I believe Gold is still in bull market as per the fundamental perspective. The near time may still be so volatile but I think they won’t hike rate soon. This is from Bloomberg newsletter which I subscribed.
    “The timing and pace of interest-rate hikes this year will depend on how quickly the economy begins to exhibit characteristics
    consistent with reaching full employment. In other words, rate policy will be particularly sensitive to the relationship between intensifying labor scarcity, mounting wage pressures and accelerating economic growth. Ultimately, these factors will drive inflation higher as well.

    At the same time that policy makers appear to be toughening their rhetoric to ensure that a March rate increase is at least “on the table,” tracking estimates of first-quarter GDP have sunk into the mid-1 percent range. Outlays for public construction were soft in January, revisions to fourth-quarter GDP showed that the economy remains extremely
    dependent on consumer activity and inflation-adjusted consumer spending faltered at the start of the first quarter.

    Given the numerous false dawns of accelerating economic growth in prior years, Fed officials — while eager to move soon — may be unwilling to do so until they have the certainty of the first-quarter GDP report in hand (released in late April). With growth prospects remaining modest, core inflation below the Fed’s objective and uncertainty elevated with respect to fiscal policy, FOMC members may assess that the consequences of delaying rate action until the second quarter are tolerable.”

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Thanks Chakrit – appreciate your thoughts. I also think that inflation will be increasing, and I already think that we see it in the increased costs of Steel, Aluminum, etc & even since last year – Oil was $26 , it is now $50. Gold was $1050 last year, now near $1250, Silver was $13.75 , now near $18, etc.

      It does seem that all eyes are on march 15 for the Fed decision. 🙂

  5. Jeff
    Jeff says:

    Thanks Alex. I am about 50% cash now. Most are individuals miners. Hard to read things lately.

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      The short term is rather unclear, and that’s why I wouldn’t doubt that we are in a mini consolidation that we wont really see clearly until we break out of it.

      I am holding a lot of Cash too. I was thinking that I’d take the NATGAS trade when it went over the 10sma, but it gapped open today. If that gap fills today, I may enter that trade.

  6. Robert Peyser
    Robert Peyser says:

    Alex i’m very confused by your report tonight too many alternative choices…. too many charts… What’s your favorite plan for the next few days or weeks?

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      I dont understand the confusion. I thought it was pretty clear…and not ‘ too many charts ‘ .

      The charts are to reinforce the idea that we could be in a consolidation. They are unpredictable until they break out. The charts show past consolidation and similarities. I do not look for a trade every single day when things are not clear. Trying to force the market to do what one expects or wants can lead to over trading. At times it is best to wait for a good set up and it is more rewarding and low risk.

      When you see a consolidation, they are hard to trade, so if you are not in a trade…it may be best to sit and wait for a proper set up.

      Natgas and Biotech seem to be bullish, but I dont like Biotech in general.

      Natgas broke and closed above the 10sma. It gapped open today. A gap fill could be a low risk buy.

      • Erik Sven
        Erik Sven says:

        Alex, I’m in UGAZ, and was thinking of moving up stops with the move today. However, I don’t want to move them up to much (maybe just to break even) if a gap fill is likely. This is my first time investing in natural gas. Are backfills likely on gap ups like this?

  7. Cason
    Cason says:

    Fellow Freaks, MUX earnings out. Swung from 7 cent loss year ago to +7 cents this quarter, figures to open a bit positive!

    • deshy
      deshy says:

      Maybe I’m reading this wrong but MUX earnings were out on March 1st last week. So not sure the earnings themselves will move anything today.

      • Cason
        Cason says:

        Oh my, sorry about that. Yahoo Finance had a new article up and it was dated the 5th. That confused me, but looks like it was released previously. Well, the results were new to me. HA!! Thanks for the clarification! 😛

  8. Evan
    Evan says:

    Hi Alex, I thought you’d mentioned on Friday you’d have some thoughts on core positions on the weekend. Any comments on cores? That’d be helpful if so. Thanks!

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      I was going to discuss that in a consolidation, core can be held. If it remains a bull market, you’ll be fine over time, the LOWS of Dec 2015 or for Miners Jan 2016 should not be taken out.

      Some individual Miners are getting hurt ( Like EGO) and if it gets ugly- I cut them loose. I thought that EGO was rather ugly, why hold it. Others that you are tired of holding and do not look healthy could be cut loose on a bounce when we get the next DCL and then a move higher.

      I was just going to share some thinking like that. IF the bear market had returned, there would be no reason to hold a core in a bear market, but with signs of inflation, I feel that Gold is in a bull amrket at this point and is just experiencing the shaking and rattling of a consolidation.

      Hope that helps

      • Evan
        Evan says:

        Yes, that’s very helpful, thanks. Just confirms my thinking. I have a bunch of miners, some juniors and some larger producers, that I’ve held since Jan 2016 that I consider my core. They go up and down but I bought them so cheaply I don’t want to jump and in out of those. That’s why it was good to see your charts on this report.

        The only thing that started to get me concerned was whether this bull was still kicking. With my own reading and analysis I felt we are still in a bull and now seeing your charts above, that just gives me more evidence. Though, of course, diligence is always necessary… My specialty is more the macro economics and the inter-relationships of different markets to each other, and taking the aggregate of those, to me they just scream bull market in metals and miners – the big picture is rather scary in a lot of ways both here in North America and elsewhere and I think that the safe havens will begin to assert themselves, especially when people start realizing that the dollar is not as safe a haven as in the past. Anyway, thanks again Alex. Very helpful… 🙂

        • chartfreak1
          chartfreak1 says:

          And for some people like myself ( In the US) we pay a higher tax on short term holdings than loner term ( ovr a year) , so buying core positions at the lows last year was the goal for my core, and now if they are sold for a profit, you get the gains in a lower tax bracket. So holding or selling is fine at this point, but it also may depend on what the holding is.

          NO DOUBT for some, lets say selling AG last summer and paying the higher tax for gains for example, would have been better than selling AG now and getting the lower tax on the now smaller gains. Not selling now and seeing AG move back to the highs and selling would allow one to then sell at the higher gains for the lower tax. It works in some trades, works aginst you in others.

          selling BTG or GPL after holding for a year would have worked out best – at the highs and lower tax bracket.

          so in the end , it is going to be “Are we still in the bull or bear going forward?” that decides the benefit of holding core longer term for tax benefit or not

          • Evan
            Evan says:

            Yes, great points for non sheltered accounts. A few years ago our federal government up here did us a huge favour – they introduced what they call a tax free savings account – which is misleading because it sounds like bank account but it is more of holding space where you can put in whatever you want. There’s an annual limit to contributions but using the retroactive clause, at this point one, can have put in about 50K in each account (so each spouse can have one). So effectively, ours are brokerage/trading accounts and any gains in there are completely tax free. Just noting that for other Canadians who may not know that TFSAs can be brokerage accounts rather than what your local bank is trying to sell you. thanks Alex…

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      Or Nak – it remains below the 10sma 🙁

      I’m still wondering if it will drop and tag that 200sma, or will the 200sma rise up and tag it and then see it move higher.

      • Ann
        Ann says:

        I’m pretty close to the exit here. I would have preferred Thurs to have been the final shakeout in miners and Friday the beginning of the chase higher. It’s waffling too long at the lows for me now. : (

        • Evan
          Evan says:

          Ditto. FYI, Rick Rule gave an interview up here in Toronto on Friday on BNN (Business News Network, I just viewed it, had it PVR’d) and mentioned that in his opinion NAK is a fantastic find (we all knew that), and that it still has definite upside potential as a stock, but he thought it won’t be built in this commodity cycle, i.e., he stated he thinks that the actual build is 10-15 years away. Thought I’d share for what that’s worth.

          • chartfreak1
            chartfreak1 says:

            Even if he was correct (And who says he is?) I’m not guaranteeing that this will happen, but I have owned stock that has been purchased by a bigger company, because they need the in-ground resources. The buy out can be a lot higher than the current share price due to projections of future profits and possibilities.

            I own some NAK above the 200sma and will hold as long as it doesn’t drop to far below the 200sma. Imagine selling it and it gets bought out for $5- 6 / share by a bigger company that has the goal of permitting and working it in the future.

          • Ann
            Ann says:

            I was referring to miners in general. Nak will be my only holding long term after today if the rest don’t repair. Nak position is smaller than it use to be. But I think if miners are going higher Nak might be the first to show signs of it.

  9. Ken
    Ken says:

    Watching:
    TGB & WRN both near the 50 sma and getting oversold……
    btw CF your pic is “freaking” me out ! 😉

    • chartfreak1
      chartfreak1 says:

      You mean the Theme pic. I know…it’s like a horror movie, but I think she is putting moisturiser on and it was probably an add for dry cracked skin – haha

      ANd yes, I own TGB and was going to add on a tag of the 50sma if it holds , and I sold my WRN a while back near the highs and was waiting for this drop.

      Also CLF, VALE, looking rather interesting on their 50sma

    • Tammie
      Tammie says:

      Yeah, I’m holding it at a loss….:( don’t know if I should just let it be or let it go….

        • Tammie
          Tammie says:

          Wonder how much it can swing? I have a larger loss than I would like unfortunately…..I only have 2 gold stocks, both losses…once I get out of them….prob won’t be buying any more individual miners…..they just don’t seem to like me (I’m sure it has nothing to do with my trading skills….HA!)

          • Tammie
            Tammie says:

            Nope…not for me and gold stocks anyway….I seem to be able to read the MJ charts easier….patterns play out better….at least so far…….for me……..maybe…..don’t you love my confidence? hahaha..:P

          • Tammie
            Tammie says:

            hahaha! Seems like I find new ones all the time but don’t know how I missed that one…wow! I recognized the name but it somehow never got added to my watch list…bummer….beautiful looking flag there on the 3 month chart………that’s what we need to see on all of them!

          • Tammie
            Tammie says:

            I sold one last week in a panic but should have held it (sold at loss and could have recovered some if I just had waited til today and hadn’t panicked)…….:( 🙁 I get too emotional…”the sky is falling!”…..have to reign it in….:)

  10. DrGold
    DrGold says:

    Well, miners are really cheap from a month ago. So I’ve got that going for me which is nice.

  11. chartfreak1
    chartfreak1 says:

    LET ME TELL YOU ALL WHAT I AM THINKING MAY HAPPEN. I Know people holding may want to sell right now,
    but I am thinking that even if Miners are breaking down in a consolidation that takes them back to the lows ( Like we saw in the weekend report is a possibility)

    I would expect a DCL in Gold this week. With that , I would expect a BOUNCE to re tag the 50sma in GDX GDXJ as a possible 3rd daly cycle peak.

    I am just saying this because if you are wanting to sell, it might be best to sell the bounce.

    • Daz Clark
      Daz Clark says:

      Paging steve to the thread. We have a JNUG trade.

      just kidding. Good luck Erik any plans for a stop?

      • Erik Sven
        Erik Sven says:

        Bought at 5.60, stop is about 5% below that. Have sell target at $6. I took it because (a) saw divergence on 15min chart, and (b) has been riding BB for 3 days (on GDXJ) and I’m hoping for cloud support. Seemed worth a 5% risk to me at that entry from what I saw. *bort!*

    • Daz Clark
      Daz Clark says:

      I’m holding till tomorrow, due to small position size and as stated gold has not broke yesterdays low…… yet.

      • Erik Sven
        Erik Sven says:

        Doh! I guess I am, too! Was on the phone and now here it is 1:09pm. Edit: looks like at the low my stop was exactly 1 cent from getting hit.

  12. pankef
    pankef says:

    Experience helps, but one of the most difficult things to do is to look at things objectively when a position goes against you; you start seeing “ghosts” where there are “shadows”. I would not be surprised if we close at or close to the lows today but based on what I see, we should be within a day or two of a significant low. Alexs’ earlier note regarding not selling here and waiting for the “bounce” is in my opinion right on the money.

      • Cason
        Cason says:

        I’ve decided to hold to not sell at the lows, but I won’t hesitate to sell if we can get a decent rebound going!

    • Cason
      Cason says:

      Right. But unfortunately the next bounce is now a sell. I certainly won’t be holding all of my positions when the next selloff possibility arises.

      • pankef
        pankef says:

        not necessarily; let’s see what the bounce produces without any pre-conceived notions. It may surprise all of us. After all, this is a BULL MARKET!!!!????

        • Cason
          Cason says:

          I’ll try to keep an open mind but watching my “core” holdings flip from green to red one by one and then deepen into the red has not been an enjoyable experience. Selling won’t mean not trading this sector again, just waiting for the next reset.

          Other than a few guys days late Dec, early Jan this has been an uninspiring rally. The tell was when we had TRX, AUMN, and other baby miners that took off good in 2016 that couldn’t do anything at all. I saw that red flag but chose to put my bull googles on.

  13. Edward Bernhart
    Edward Bernhart says:

    Alex, What do you think of health care specifically the ETFs, XLV and RXL? If they had only taken a break from late January I would like to have been in them.

  14. Tammie
    Tammie says:

    MDCL moving up….been watching it but I’m not brave enough to trade any with that low volume…

  15. Tammie
    Tammie says:

    Israeli govt voted over weekend to decriminalize recreational marijuana…..maybe that will be good for ones like OWCP and CNBX (though both are medical……both do their R & D in Israel)….

  16. Erik Sven
    Erik Sven says:

    Added a little to UGAZ as it came back within upper BB. If it pops again will either sell it all and switch to UNG, or sell half and let the rest ride. Stop on added shares just below the gap close. Also, moved up stops to +5% on initial tranche.

  17. Cason
    Cason says:

    The only good news for me is that I am quite a bit higher in cash than normal (for once!). I’ve taken these ICL/DCL selloff almost full up before and that really sucks. As much as I have held on to my “core” positions, pretty much any ‘trade’ that I had in the PM sector was stopped out long, long ago. So, I do have cash to deploy as needed (as well as positions that I don’t have to see they aren’t down 8-17% today). Still disillusioned that our “wave 3” didn’t work out. Keeping an open mind, but my expectations are certainly tempered compared to where they were 2 months ago.

  18. Tammie
    Tammie says:

    Starting today Ameritrade trades were supposed to start being $6.95 instead of $9.95…just FYI…..

      • Tammie
        Tammie says:

        Yeah I figured there were cheaper options and thought about looking into some just haven’t done it yet…….might have to check on that one….thanks! 🙂

  19. Cason
    Cason says:

    CME group showing now an 86.4% chance of rate hike next week. And don’t forget we have Jobs report Fri AM as well. Come on miners, you can’t go down forever!

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